Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 8:36 PM -0500 8/26/09, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: And so it is marked in the score I have as well. St. Louis Symphony used a D-Trumpet for their local premiere--never have understood why. I've heard posthorn solos. It may have been the Goldman Band playing summer concerts in Central Park

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-26 Thread arabushk
Ok! Note that you can order the CD straight from me if you'd like. ajr Harvey Philips era > Aaron, > Shall do...I remember you from IU. > For that metter, I remember BILL BELL from IU. > Jim W. > > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu]

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-26 Thread Ray Horton
I agree to most of what you say, Jim, except for #1. I am sure that cimbasso was not on Andrew's mind. Cimbasso is not a versatile instrument, the sound is a specialized one, and yes, I do own own one - a Cervany bass trombone sized straight model in F. Perfect for the lighter cimbasso parts

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andre ws brass

2009-08-26 Thread Williams, Jim
Aaron, Shall do...I remember you from IU. For that metter, I remember BILL BELL from IU. Jim W. From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of arabu...@cowtown.net [arabu...@cowtown.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:35 PM To: fi

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread arabushk
And so it is marked in the score I have as well. St. Louis Symphony used a D-Trumpet for their local premiere--never have understood why. ajr > The Mahler "posthorn" solo is actually labeled 'flugelhorn' in the part. > > > RBH > > arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: >> ...Also, the flügelhorn >> often s

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-26 Thread arabushk
FWIW, I remember that the Dallas Symphony was trying to beg and borrow a cimbasso for something by Verdi. I think that the Dallas Opera had one--don't know how it ended. And, if you want to hear some effective euphonium writing, check out my Canzona e Scherzo Capriccioso (Vienna Modern Masters CD

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Ray Horton
The Mahler "posthorn" solo is actually labeled 'flugelhorn' in the part. RBH arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: ...Also, the flügelhorn often stands in for the posthorn in the 3rd movement of the Mahler 3rd, and it sounds much better in this capacity than the d-trumpet that is sometimes used. ajr

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-26 Thread Williams, Jim
Couple of comments... 1. Cimbasso, anyone? Does the LO own one, Ray, or does anyone in your section? Perhaps that is what Andrew means? Cimbassi come in all the tuba keys (F, Eb, CC, BBb) 2. A great use for euphonium is as a replacement for the HORN in a brass quintet. Our quintet has been doi

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 26 Aug 2009, at 7:40 PM, John Howell wrote: At 5:48 PM -0400 8/26/09, timothy price wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. Was wondering if you might be able to give an example of this co

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Chuck Israels
Was wondering if you might be able to give an example of this color quality in some well known musical work? Is there such a famous piece where flugel horn is used which would not sound satisfying with trombone or horn instead? There are many examples of jazz players using this instrum

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 5:48 PM -0400 8/26/09, timothy price wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. Was wondering if you might be able to give an example of this color quality in some well known musical work? Is

Re: [Finale] Playback

2009-08-26 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thanks guys ... I think I may be onto the solution with your help. Dean On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Dean, You need to configure the playback for AU. Check the documentation for step-by-step instructions. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn,

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread arabushk
The 9th symphony by Vaughan Williams comes to mind. Also, the flügelhorn often stands in for the posthorn in the 3rd movement of the Mahler 3rd, and it sounds much better in this capacity than the d-trumpet that is sometimes used. ajr > > On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: > >> Mos

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-26 Thread Ray Horton
Andrew suggests: "contrabass trombone (i.e. wide-bore Bb/F bass w. addl. D trigger)" Just what do you mean, Andrew? Do you mean a contrabass trombone in BBb, same pitch as a BBb tuba, but with two valves? Not made - no valves, or one valve only. Either way, the contrabass slide trombone

Re: [Finale] Playback

2009-08-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Dean, You need to configure the playback for AU. Check the documentation for step-by-step instructions. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 26 Aug 2009, at 5:29 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok, so I opened a file from Fin 06 in Fin 2010. It will play back in

Re: [Finale] Playback

2009-08-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok, so I opened a file from Fin 06 in Fin 2010. It will play back in "Play back through MIDI, but not through AU, which is, of course, what I want. How do I make it play through Audio Units? Hmmm. I'm may be once again revealing my ignorance, as Audio Units is a MAC

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: my first reaction was, "why?" Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. But thinking about it, I could picture using flugel as the lead over trombones, and wanting to mute the whole section. Curious,

Re: [Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Martin Banner wrote: I opened up a file in Finale 2008 (for Mac) for which I want to create a pdf file. After opening up the file, I went to File, clicked on "Compile Postscript Listing", then clicked on the compile button when the Compile Postscript Listing window

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread timothy price
On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. Was wondering if you might be able to give an example of this color quality in some well known musical work? Is there such a famous piece where flugel hor

[Finale] Playback

2009-08-26 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok, so I opened a file from Fin 06 in Fin 2010. It will play back in "Play back through MIDI, but not through AU, which is, of course, what I want. How do I make it play through Audio Units? Thanks, Dean Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http:

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 4:08 PM -0500 8/26/09, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Thanks to all of you for your replies! I submitted my inquiry to this list since there are so many musicians here with practical experience that a google search could never tap. As to why I want to mute the flügelhorn, suffice it to say that t

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread arabushk
Thanks to all of you for your replies! I submitted my inquiry to this list since there are so many musicians here with practical experience that a google search could never tap. As to why I want to mute the flügelhorn, suffice it to say that that's what I need to do at this juncture in the piece I'

Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread Dick Hauser
On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:33 AM, Richard Yates wrote: I don't know if 'Compile PostScript listing' ever worked. Get an app like PrintToPDF ( http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html ). Depending on your operating system version, you may be able to "save as PDF" from the first print dialogue. D

Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
Thanks Terry --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Aaron Sherber wrote: > From: Aaron Sherber > Subject: Re: [Finale] More problems staff stylesno names > To: finale@shsu.edu > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 8:33 AM > On 8/26/2009 10:37 AM, terry cano > wrote: > > How do I put a Text insert in the score?

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
For sure only the 12 measure is selcted I did try closing and rebooting Finale but not the computer. I'm on a PC. I think the safe thing is not to mess with staff style in the score and just do it in the parts as you explained. Thanks Terry --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Christopher Smith wrote: > Fr

Re: [Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Banner
I figured this out on my own, thanks. I had to go to the print dialogue box and simply click "Print to pdf" and voila! Martin On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have found a few things that will kill a PDF or EPS file on Mac. !. Bad font. MIght print and display prope

Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts

2009-08-26 Thread Ray Horton
There is a problem with your file name. or in one or more instrument names - an illegal character (such as a bracket \) in it or something. Rename it with a simpler name. I have had this happen with "Flute 3 / Piccolo" , for example. Finale could not extract any parts until I renamed that

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:19 AM, terry cano wrote: Thanks for the insight I thought I was losing my mind For the second problem, I don't understand the problem. What do you mean you get the rhythm but the slashes disappear? Isn't that the point of Rhythmic Notation? they slashes disappear i

Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 8/26/2009 10:37 AM, terry cano wrote: How do I put a Text insert in the score? In page view, select the text tool. Double-click and drag to add a text box. Then do Text | Inserts | Part/Score Name. Position the box where you want it. Then hold down the linking override key (Ctrl on Win),

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
Thanks for the insight I thought I was losing my mind > > For the second problem, I don't understand the problem. > What do you mean you get the rhythm but the slashes > disappear? Isn't that the point of Rhythmic Notation? > they slashes disappear in the first 11 bars that previously had sla

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Smith
The Staff Styles are a big problem. Often, the parts do not adopt the proper staff style that is in the score, so you have to go to the part, select the Staff Tool, and in the Staff menu select Reset Staff Styles to Score. This makes that part the same as the score. This is my latest nervou

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 12:46 AM -0500 8/26/09, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Does any of you know if flügelhorns have some of the unusual (i.e., cup, harmon) trumpet mutes fitted for them? Aaron J. Rabushka You've gotten some useful answers (which this is NOT!), but my first reaction was, "why?" Most of us would

[Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
Finale 2008 I figured all the problems exceppt the staff style problem Thanks To The List Folk !!! I usually create the changes on the Gtr or Bass staff first then add the rehearsl ltrs, dbl bars, etc. Write the horn partsthen copy parts of the chord staff to the what ever horn is soloing in

Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
How do I put a Text insert in the score? Terry --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Aaron Sherber wrote: > From: Aaron Sherber > Subject: Re: [Finale] More problems staff stylesno names > To: finale@shsu.edu > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 4:37 AM > On 8/26/2009 2:41 AM, terry cano > wrote: > > I was a

Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
It was me and an illegal charater Terry --- On Wed, 8/26/09, RL wrote: > From: RL > Subject: Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts > To: finale@shsu.edu > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 12:56 AM > try a shorter file name. > > Raimund Lintzen > > > - Original Message - From: "terry

Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts

2009-08-26 Thread terry cano
Yep I figured out last night it was an Illegal Charcter... I can't believe I did that. In the Staff name I had Pno./Gtr. the "/" is a no no.. I sometime have to tweak the parts rehearsal letters etcI can try the print though Thanks David Terry --- On Wed, 8/26/09, dhbailey wrote: > From

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Smith
It's a little-known fact that tenor trombone mutes fit a flugelhorn bell pretty well. They aren't perfectly balanced, but some mutes aren't even that on the trombone, so maybe the standards are bit too high? French horn mutes should work too (try the mute that substitutes for hand stopping.

RE: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Yates
I don't know if 'Compile PostScript listing' ever worked. Get an app like PrintToPDF ( http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html ). > -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu > [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Aaron Sherber > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:38 AM >

Re: [Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Smith
I have found a few things that will kill a PDF or EPS file on Mac. !. Bad font. MIght print and display properly from inside Finale, but just won't embed. Usually old fonts (I used to know this, but I forgot what the old style of font is that breaks EPS.) 2. Custom arrowheads in Smart Shape

Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

2009-08-26 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 8/26/2009 2:41 AM, terry cano wrote: I was able to get a part to extract but the Inst name doesn't appear on the extracted part...it is in the Staff (Full and Abrv) on the score In 2008, the instrument name doesn't get automatically copied from the staff when you extract a part. You need t

[Finale] secondary monitor issue

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick Sheehan
I just purchased a wide 22" HP monitor to use to view Finale projects on "the big screen." It works wonderfully, however, whenever I try to use my mouse's right click button for certain functions (Selector tool select, delete measure stack, transpose, etc.), the right click menu won't come up

[Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Banner
I opened up a file in Finale 2008 (for Mac) for which I want to create a pdf file. After opening up the file, I went to File, clicked on "Compile Postscript Listing", then clicked on the compile button when the Compile Postscript Listing window came up. I clicked on save. When I tried to op

Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery solved

2009-08-26 Thread Patsy Moore
Hello again, Many thanks to the various people who responded to my problem with playback. It now looks as if there were two problems. If they were related I still don't know how. I was getting silent scrolling some of the time (scroll line moving and bars counting off as usual), but that seem

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hello, Let Me Google That For You is invaluable in such cases. For instance: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fluegelhorn+mute Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 26 Aug 2009, at 4:30 AM, dhbailey wrote: arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Does any of you know

Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts

2009-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Or there may be an "illegal" character being inserted if you have Finale create the file names automatically. But in Fin2008, why extract the parts? Why not simply create the parts and print from there? David H. Bailey RL wrote: try a shorter file name. Raimund Lintzen - Original M

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-26 Thread dhbailey
arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Does any of you know if flügelhorns have some of the unusual (i.e., cup, harmon) trumpet mutes fitted for them? Aaron J. Rabushka ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Why

Re: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts

2009-08-26 Thread RL
try a shorter file name. Raimund Lintzen - Original Message - From: "terry cano" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:28 AM Subject: [Finale] Can't Extract Parts I have two ver of Finale 2002 at home and 2008 at the studio at home I wrote the chart and saved it to a flash drive