Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Oct 2009 at 22:46, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Well, makemusic does as much. Remember the finale release where they > touted having the copyright sign as a new feature? Finale 2006 or > something? Certainly (that's why I said it should be buried as a bullet point), but I was reacting to He

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, makemusic does as much. Remember the finale release where they touted having the copyright sign as a new feature? Finale 2006 or something? I believe that is what Henry was referring to. The memory thing in 6.1. I couldn't come up with anything else from Sibelius.com that would fit

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Oct 2009 at 21:52, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:44 PM, "David W. Fenton" > wrote: > > > How is this helpful? Finale is, and always has been, one of the most > > RAM-efficient applications I have ever run. And the files are quite > > small, too, relatively speaking. > > >

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Loading up a full orchestra or wind band score with full garritan sounds? --- send out and aboot on my iPhone --- On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:44 PM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: How is this helpful? Finale is, and always has been, one of the most RAM-efficient applications I have ever run. And t

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Oct 2009 at 21:27, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > i think he's talking about Sibelius 6.1 being able to use up to 4 gigs > of ram in windows 7. How is this helpful? Finale is, and always has been, one of the most RAM-efficient applications I have ever run. And the files are quite small, too, r

Re:Re: [Finale] request transcribers--from a blind musician

2009-10-30 Thread 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng
Some websites have Finale/sibelius files, such as Finale Showcase and Classical Sheet Music (http://www.music-scores.com/). But many files are not original works, some are not maestros'. A number of braille libraries have braille music, but most of them are piano, vocal, solo or small ensemble w

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
i think he's talking about Sibelius 6.1 being able to use up to 4 gigs of ram in windows 7. --- send out and aboot on my iPhone --- On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: What are you talking about? On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Howey, Henry wrote: Has Sibelius again shown

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Allen Fisher
What are you talking about? On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Howey, Henry wrote: Has Sibelius again shown MM how to do their job? I speak of the information on accessing RAM and optimizing one's machine for doing so. MM must get on the bandwagon and give us this info. Allen Fisher Founder

[Finale] request transcribers--from a blind musician

2009-10-30 Thread hhpmusic
Dear David, Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, Pdf to Braille conversion can never be invented, because the pdf score are mostly scanned image, containing no specified objects such as fonts. I posted a thread on IMSLP, asking who use FInale or Sibelius to type the scores then upload there,

Re: [Finale] request transcribers--from a blind musician

2009-10-30 Thread David McKay
Hi Hu Or should it be Hi Haipeng? Please let me know. If there were pdf to Braille conversion, you could get many scores from public domain sites like Petrucci Music Library. See http://imslp.org/wiki/ I think that if you could find someone to create such software, that would give you the access to

[Finale] request transcribers--from a blind musician

2009-10-30 Thread hhpmusic
Hello list, I'm a Chinese blind musician Hu Haipeng. My ideal is being a composer like Rodrigo, but there are no braille music transcribers in CHina. Therefore, in 1999, I entered our local conservatory as a (forced) piano major, also as its first blind student. Playing the piano is a torture,

Re: [Finale] O.T. Copyright issues on Choral Wikipedia / cpdl.org

2009-10-30 Thread Gerhard Torges
Am 28.10.2009 um 23:28 schrieb Blake Richardson: On 10/28/09 1:00 PM, Gerhard Torges wrote: Am 26.10.2009 um 05:26 schrieb Noel Stoutenburg: US law (where--to the best of my knowledge, the CPDL servers are domiciled) Unfortunately, the server's location are not of much importance. Any web

[Finale] Marine Band needs a Finale-capable arranger

2009-10-30 Thread Howey, Henry
http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/career_information/vacancies/index.htm#arranger ;-) Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Gerhard Torges
Am 30.10.2009 um 20:05 schrieb Johannes Gebauer: They are everything Engraver slurs should have been, but aren't. Hmm? Gerhard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread James Gilbert
That's what I did in my original test, so to be authentic to it, that's what I put up. > It's worthless to try to compare those because you posted as TIF > instead of as PDF, which means that one has to open them in a > graphics program and resize. >

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Matthew Gmail
100% agree with Michael here. I've just converted 2 large files with finale 2010, dolet 5 and sib 6.1 and the results are very good. It's surprising how much is transferred. There will be editing required but it is well worth the money. Bravo michael! For my 2c Sibelius 6.1 is very good. O

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I just played around a little with Sib 6.1, and I must say that the slurs are really good. They are everything Engraver slurs should have been, but aren't. I haven't tested them in depth. Willl they work well for system ends? Johannes ___ Finale mail

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Morabito
http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/6/6_1_features.html Sibelius 6.1 new features Existing Sibelius 6 user? Update for free now » Windows 7 and Snow Leopard compatible Write beautiful scores on the world’s newest, fastest operating systems. On Oct 30, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Howey, Henry w

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps not as fast, but not too slow.

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Morabito
It's called "flexi-time" as posted earlier.. Bob On Oct 30, 2009, at 2:43 PM, dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >Up or down arrows, with on

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread David W. Fenton
(BTW, Henry, your Reply-To is always set to fin...@lists.shsu.edu, which is invalid for those of us emailing from outside SHSU) On 30 Oct 2009 at 13:15, Howey, Henry wrote: > Has Sibelius again shown MM how to do their job? > > I speak of the information on accessing RAM and optimizing one's ma

RE: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Oct 2009 at 14:22, James Gilbert wrote: > I exported both versions to a TIFF file at 300dpi. The Finale file size is > huge compared to the Sibelius version. Those can be found at: > > www.jamesgilbertmusic.com/test/Sibelius.tif and > www.jamesgilbertmusic.com/test/Finale.tif It's worthles

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps not as fast, but not too slow. Correcting wron

RE: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread James Gilbert
> Dc wrote: > Would you care to share this? I'd be interested in seeing both > versions. > > And thanks for all the other comments. > > Dennis I found the original Finale version, but not the Sibelius version. I think I used it to help generate my own house style that was a much like my Finale h

[Finale] Sibelius 6.1

2009-10-30 Thread Howey, Henry
Has Sibelius again shown MM how to do their job? I speak of the information on accessing RAM and optimizing one's machine for doing so. MM must get on the bandwagon and give us this info. BTW, I didn't know our MAC friends with Snow Leopard were dead in the water with Sib6. Henry Howey Profe

Re: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread John Roberts
I had no problems changing time sig in 2008 or 2009. I don't have 2007 so can't try that, sorry. JR On 10/30/09 11:38 AM, "Richard Yates" wrote: > I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures. > The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measur

RE: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Yates
> Richard Yates wrote: > > I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures > of any measures. > > The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but > the measures > > do not change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have > > any effect (different time display, re

Re: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Barbara Touburg
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Nolater version of finale My test was done with FinWin08. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Nolater version of finale --- send out and aboot on my iPhone --- On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Richard Yates wrote: Thanks. Did you use 2007? I tried the file and could change measures no problem. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates wrote: I have a file in which I cann

Re: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Barbara Touburg
Richard Yates wrote: I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures. The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have any effect (different time display, rebar, etc). The file was

RE: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Yates
Thanks. Did you use 2007? > I tried the file and could change measures no problem. > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates > wrote: > > I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures > of any measures. > > The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but > the

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Morabito
I'm afraid I don't know what Hyperscribe is, and it isn't in the Sib6 Reference Manual under either spelling. John In Sibelius ,its called Flexi-time™ Flexi-time is Sibelius’s unique intelligent real-time MIDI input system. Bob On Oct 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, John Howell wrote: At 9:

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 12:15 -0400 30/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >> >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps >> >not as fast

Re: [Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I tried the file and could change measures no problem. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates wrote: > I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures. > The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not > change when I exit the box. N

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread John Howell
At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps not as fast, but not too slow. Correcting wrong accidentals might

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread John Howell
At 9:38 AM +0100 10/30/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Also, can someone tell me whether it is possible to operate Sibelius on a laptop with no number keypad without losing too much usability? The keypad idea is good, but not if you are sitting in a train or plane. My Macbook does not have a keypad

[Finale] Time Signature - Stumped - FinWin2007

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Yates
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures. The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have any effect (different time display, rebar, etc). The file was concatenated from sever

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Michael Good
dc wrote: > The conversion of Finale files into Sibelius is Very Bad, > pace Dolet, XML and whatnot. This is another area - as is slurs - that is much improved in Sibelius 6.1 compared to the versions you are familiar with. The same is true for conversions back the other way from Sibelius to Fin

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread J D Thomas
As a Finale user since v1.0, 1988, and a Sibelius convert now for 2 years, please allow me to voice my views on these issues (Finale 2007 is my latest version here): On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:52 AM, dc wrote: Johannes Gebauer écrit: I haven't really looked at Sibelius yet, but the first thing I

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 30.10.2009 dhbailey wrote: All the keystrokes for anything in Sibelius can be reprogrammed to other key combinations -- there's a dialog for doing that in the Preferences settings. I know of users on the Sibelius list who have reprogrammed all their numpad things to

RE: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread James Gilbert
> Johannes Gebauer écrit: > >I haven't really looked at Sibelius yet, but the first thing I am > going to > >do with it is to try and tweak the output to my liking. This is very > >flexible in Finale, we shall see what Sibelius can do. The following > items > >need to be investigated: > > > >-Font

[Finale] 2010a pref file not loading when 2-click doc

2009-10-30 Thread shirling & neueweise
anyone else getting this (mac)? if i start finale by by 2-clicking on the document in the finder the prefs file doesn't load. i change pref settings (folder locations, for e.g.), save the prefs and see that the prefs file in User/Library/Preferences remains unchanged. if i open the app di

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread music
There is a laptop configuration available out of the box. And if you don't like it, you can make any personal changes you like. Slurs and ties came in for lots of work in Sibelius 6 and are now greatly improved. Beams, slurs, ties and many other things can be changed globally via t

Re: [Finale] Musescore

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Morabito
HI Gerhard http://www.musescore.org/node/2849 Home » Forums » General discussion MuseScore for Mac is out of beta By lasconic - Posted on September 21st, 2009 Tagged: * General discussion MuseScore for Mac OS X is out of beta since the release of MuseScore 0.9.5 on the August 15th 2009

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr .
At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >>To me it is inconvenient because when I use Speed Entry with an external >>keyboard, I keep my eyes on the screen and don't look at the keyboard. If I >>hit a wrong note when entering music, my e

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 30.10.2009 dhbailey wrote: All the keystrokes for anything in Sibelius can be reprogrammed to other key combinations -- there's a dialog for doing that in the Preferences settings. I know of users on the Sibelius list who have reprogrammed all their numpad things to other keystroke combina

Re: [Finale] Musescore

2009-10-30 Thread dhbailey
Gerhard Torges wrote: Hi! Am 29.10.2009 um 11:48 schrieb dhbailey: He might consider Musescore Tried that on my Mac a while ago. Does it do playback by now? The Windows version does -- it uses soundfonts, and there are many of those which are GM and don't sound too bad for free on the w

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Also, can someone tell me whether it is possible to operate Sibelius on a laptop with no number keypad without losing too much usability? The keypad idea is good, but not if you are sitting in a train or plane. My Macbook does not have a keypad function anymore (the old

[Finale] Musescore

2009-10-30 Thread Gerhard Torges
Hi! Am 29.10.2009 um 11:48 schrieb dhbailey: He might consider Musescore Tried that on my Mac a while ago. Does it do playback by now? Gerhard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Funky Bear Music
I use Quickeys and the regular Sibelius keymapping ability to remap the numeric keypad to the regular numbers as well as a few other characters like [ ] and \ with no problem. Ties I moved over to the ` key. To be honest, I'm not sure you'd actually need Quickeys to do it, you can proba

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Also, can someone tell me whether it is possible to operate Sibelius on a laptop with no number keypad without losing too much usability? The keypad idea is good, but not if you are sitting in a train or plane. My Macbook does not have a keypad function anymore (the old iBook had that). Johann

Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius

2009-10-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.10.2009 dhbailey wrote: Not only is Sibelius' approach much more logical for many novice notation software users, the output is much more elegant than Finale's if one uses the default files of both with no changes. Well, that's one I have to disagree with. Many years ago Finale output