Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-18 Thread David H. Bailey
On 2/17/2012 7:23 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Fri Feb 17, at FridayFeb 17 7:03 PM, Ryan wrote: Can't wait until Finale 2013 when I can pay to have this feature restored again. That's the ticket! Stay optimistic that it will be fixed! If we didn't do that, MakeMusic would go out of

[Finale] Moving expressions on score lists

2012-02-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, FinWin11. When an expression is assigned to a score list, like a tempo mark, moving the topmost expression in the score moves the whole bunch of them. In order to move /only/ the top expression, you have to hold down the tilde key while you drag it. When I do this, however, the

[Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread SN jef chippewa
i am doing a short orchestral score and in the final section the whole orchestra (and i assume audience) are invited to sing along on the tune Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond. where would you mark the lyrics in the score? i thought of placing them in an instrument that plays the melody, but

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Lawrence Yates
I would definitely use a separate stave for the voices. Cheers, Lawrence On 18 February 2012 15:29, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.comwrote: i am doing a short orchestral score and in the final section the whole orchestra (and i assume audience) are invited to sing along on the

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
I would put them in whichever part looks best - usually near the top of the score - above is even better if the top instrument plays the tune. I wouldn't switch staves more than once. If there is an resting staff at the top they can be cued there. Where the rhythm or melisma are different to

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread SN jef chippewa
ok thanks, and place it between pc and vln1? I would definitely use a separate stave for the voices. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
Just actually looked at the score.. Definitely would be clear to put them above the top phrase. Are you definitely using the anglicised lyrics? Steve P. On 18 Feb 2012, at 15:29, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: i am doing a short orchestral score and in the final

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread SN jef chippewa
Just actually looked at the score.. Definitely would be clear to put them above the top phrase. above the flutes? I wouldn't care about register at all. true, i suppose each person will decide on their register according to their own voice... Are you definitely using the anglicised lyrics?

Re: [Finale] Moving expressions on score lists

2012-02-18 Thread Christopher Smith
It's been a few years since I sussed this out, but that sounds right to me. The topmost expression's position is the one that gets passed on to linked parts by default. If you change a LOWER expression in the score list, then of course it does not reflect the way it is going to look in the

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
Yes, above flutes. 'phrase' should have been 'stave'... Steve P. On 18 Feb 2012, at 16:02, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: Just actually looked at the score.. Definitely would be clear to put them above the top phrase. above the flutes? I wouldn't care about

Re: [Finale] Moving expressions on score lists

2012-02-18 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 2/18/2012 11:12 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: The topmost expression's position is the one that gets passed on to linked parts by default. Oh, right -- I was forgetting about all the other parts that aren't showing tempo marks in the score. I know you might want to have the expression on

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Claude Guéganno
If the orchestra don't play when he begin to sing, it could be a separate score (?), (same for everyone). but if the orchestra play and sing , I would mark the lyrics for all instrumentists that can play AND sing at the same time (example : not for bassonist !) Probably with a second voice for

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Lawrence Yates
I would treat it in the same way as I would a soprano soloist and put the stave wherever you would normally put that line. In effect, those singing are your choir. Cheers, Lawrence On 18 February 2012 15:53, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.comwrote: ok thanks, and place it between

[Finale] Exporting to Audio File

2012-02-18 Thread Bonnie Janofsky
Finale 2012a.r3, Mac OS 10.6.8, MacBook Pro In Finale 2012, when I select Export to Audio File, I get this message - An error occurred while saving the audio file (Error -2) if Finale is set to Play Finale Through MIDI. If I set to Play Finale Through Audio Units, I can save as an AIFF file

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
SN jef chippewa wrote: i am doing a short orchestral score and in the final section the whole orchestra (and i assume audience) are invited to sing along on the tune Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond. where would you mark the lyrics in the score? You don't have to do it this way, but I'd add an

[Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread Whittall, Geoff
Hi Folks, When you are responding to discussions, please remember to delete un-necessary previous responses. Scrolling through and trying to keep track of 10 or 11 sets of s is not a nice experience, and it becomes un-necessarily difficult to find the gems within people's comments. Wednesday's

Re: [Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Geoff, Have you considered that this would not be an issue if you did not subscribe to the digest, and instead used rules to direct individual Finale-list posts to a folder? This makes it much easier to focus on the content that is relevant to you. And it's much easier for you to change your

Re: [Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread Ryan
It's likely he won't see that message until the next digest On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.netwrote: Geoff, Have you considered that this would not be an issue if you did not subscribe to the digest, and instead used rules to direct individual

Re: [Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
I'm anal about snipping on mac.. But from phone by the time I've removed the whole message three times, twice copied it to four times its original length and forgotten what I was writing in the first place I give up.. Steve P. On 18 Feb 2012, at 20:04, Darcy James Argue

Re: [Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread SN jef chippewa
And it's much easier for you to change your behavior than it is to expect everyone else to change theirs. true enough, but i also support this request, and it is also fairly common netiquette to remove unneeded text from one's replies. for some this is also an accessibility issue: people who

Re: [Finale] Response Etiquette Request

2012-02-18 Thread SN jef chippewa
At 20:18 + 2/18/12, Steve Parker wrote: I'm anal about snipping on mac.. But from phone by the time I've removed the whole message three times, twice copied it to four times its original length and forgotten what I was writing in the first place I give up.. but if the people who

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread John Howell
At 4:29 PM +0100 2/18/12, SN jef chippewa wrote: i am doing a short orchestral score and in the final section the whole orchestra (and i assume audience) are invited to sing along on the tune Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond. where would you mark the lyrics in the score? Jef: The first question to

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Raymond Horton
I disagree wholeheartedly with: 'the register doesn't matter' each person will decide on their register according to their own voice. The song is in a very singable register from middle C up to D in the treble clef. Write a separate staff in treble, sopranos and altos sing as written, tenors

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread John Howell
At 8:35 PM -0500 2/18/12, Raymond Horton wrote: The song is in a very singable register from middle C up to D in the treble clef. Write a separate staff in treble, sopranos and altos sing as written, tenors and basses sing 8ba, very simple. Exactly what I meant, of course, and yes, they'll

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
I'm not for one second suggesting writing choral music without regard to register. I'm suggesting that the conductor who is reading the score is unlikely to stop the audience singalong and demand that they sing in the flute register. It's a singalong for goodness' sake! Everyone will sing

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Read my post, Steve. I read yours! Raymond Horton On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I'm not for one second suggesting writing choral music without regard to register. I'm suggesting that the conductor who is reading the score is unlikely to stop the

Re: [Finale] orchestra + scottish trad. singalong

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Parker
I was answering the top half of your post.. after that we seem to agree! Maybe I'm misreading(?) but the rest of your post would make sense still if you'd started with 'I agree'. Or maybe we mean different things with 'register doesn't matter'? Steve P. On 19 Feb 2012, at 01:52, Raymond