Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.02.2006 Mark D Lew wrote: I'm still waiting to hear the answer about Verdi's supposed overture for Barbiere. I'm guessing th is making some sort of oblique reference to one of Verdi's known overtures having once been associated with Rossini's opera. If it were something else, surely

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 18, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 18.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: Rossini had written an overture for Barbiere composed of Spanish themes, but at the last minute decided that it wasn't good enough. Really? Now this gets really interesting. Does this original Barbiere

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Cook
In the Eulenburg score the 1st trombone has some high Cs (measures 147-9) but I didn't see a high D. In the Dover edition (where all three parts are written on one staff, in bass clef) the 1st trombone never goes that high: at a quick glance the highest note is an E just above middle C. What

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: Rossini had written an overture for Barbiere composed of Spanish themes, but at the last minute decided that it wasn't good enough. Really? Now this gets really interesting. Does this original Barbiere oversture survive? Does anyone know how to get it? Is it

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Cook
As far as I know, the original overture to Barbiere is lost. It is certainly not published. --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville? Datum: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:08:24 +0100

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Our first trombonist growns whenever this shows up. I'm sure she would love to play one of the lower editions. Michael Cook wrote: In the Eulenburg score the 1st trombone has some high Cs (measures 147-9) but I didn't see a high D. In the Dover edition (where all three parts are written on

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: As far as I know, the original overture to Barbiere is lost. It is certainly not published. Thanks. I will investigate this further. If anyone has a hint for more information, that would be phantastic. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: In fact: Johannes, why do you need to know the scoring? Has all this discussion given you the reply you wanted? It has indeed. I am planning concert-programmes for our orchestra, and it is of some importance to know whether we would have to fly in 3

[Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
If anyone has this at hand, could you let me know? Only the overture. Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Peter Lockwood
Overture: 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets in C, 2 bassoons 2 horns in E flat, 2 trumpets in A Timpani Gran Cassa Strings At 17:41 17/02/2006, you wrote: If anyone has this at hand, could you let me know? Only the overture. Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Michael Cook
In my score (Dover reprint of old Ricordi) of the complete opera, the overture is: 1fl. + 1picc., 2, 2, 2 - 2, 2, 3 - Timpani, Gran Cassa - Str 'm pretty sure that there are other orchestrations, though, since the overture was originally written for Aureliano in Palmira and then used in

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Peter, thanks, that's great! Johannes On 17.02.2006 Peter Lockwood wrote: Overture: 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets in C, 2 bassoons 2 horns in E flat, 2 trumpets in A Timpani Gran Cassa Strings At 17:41 17/02/2006, you wrote: If anyone has this at hand, could you let me know? Only the

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: In my score (Dover reprint of old Ricordi) of the complete opera, the overture is: 1fl. + 1picc., 2, 2, 2 - 2, 2, 3 - Timpani, Gran Cassa - Str Ah, now this is conflicting information. Are there 3 trombones, or are there not (this is important for me...).

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Peter Lockwood
No trombones in Ricordi critical edition (1969). 2 Trombe, yes, but that means trumpets... Peter At 18:27 17/02/2006, you wrote: On 17.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: In my score (Dover reprint of old Ricordi) of the complete opera, the overture is: 1fl. + 1picc., 2, 2, 2 - 2, 2, 3 - Timpani, Gran

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Raymond Horton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2006 Michael Cook wrote: In my score (Dover reprint of old Ricordi) of the complete opera, the overture is: 1fl. + 1picc., 2, 2, 2 - 2, 2, 3 - Timpani, Gran Cassa - Str Ah, now this is conflicting information. Are there 3 trombones, or are there not

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Michael Cook
On 17 Feb 2006, at 19:28, Raymond Horton wrote: Somewhere along the way, someone added three trombone and timp parts to the overture that are commonly played, and these are in the Dover-Ricordi score (I just looked at the latter yesterday, AAMOF.) No, the trombone parts are original

Re: [Finale] Scoring of Ouv Barber of Seville?

2006-02-17 Thread Raymond Horton
On 17 Feb 2006, at 19:28, Raymond Horton wrote: Somewhere along the way, someone added three trombone and timp parts to the overture that are commonly played, and these are in the Dover-Ricordi score (I just looked at the latter yesterday, AAMOF.) Michael Cook wrote: No, the trombone