Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Macks wrote: | | That's why I also mentioned adding some sort of magic number and have | the indexer ignore any file that is newer than the level it supports. | Maybe a "MinFinkVersion: " field as the first line? After discussion on #fink which I

[Fink-devel] Re: .app's in Fink

2004-01-26 Thread Matthias Neeracher
From: Darian Lanx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Costabel wrote: D. H=F6hn wrote: I do not quite understand why. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not completely opposed, I just do not get why. We are good at something, which is packaging Unix based applications. The underlying technology is sui

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 26, 2004, at 9:38 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: David R. Morrison wrote: So you would migrate from .info files to .vinfo files, over time? That's quite a hack! Seriously, if this were going to be done, then goal #1 of the hack would be to set up

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Benjamin Reed
David R. Morrison wrote: So you would migrate from .info files to .vinfo files, over time? That's quite a hack! Seriously, if this were going to be done, then goal #1 of the hack would be to set up a new, extensible, % system so that this would never need to be done again in the future. I don't

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 09:38:34PM -0500, Benjamin Reed wrote: > David R. Morrison wrote: > > >So you would migrate from .info files to .vinfo files, over time? That's > >quite a hack! > > > >Seriously, if this were going to be done, then goal #1 of the hack would be > >to set up a new, extensibl

Re: [Fink-devel] gnome on macos x

2004-01-26 Thread BABA Yoshihiko
From: Alexander Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] gnome on macos x Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:25:23 -0500 > You run "gnome-session" Here's how: http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/run-xfree86.php -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + BABA Yoshihiko + - - - - -

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread David R. Morrison
So you would migrate from .info files to .vinfo files, over time? That's quite a hack! Seriously, if this were going to be done, then goal #1 of the hack would be to set up a new, extensible, % system so that this would never need to be done again in the future. I don't know what form that would

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:41:08PM -0500, David R. Morrison wrote: > > So how do you feel about the .vinfo solution? > > Could you explain that a bit more? I didn't quite follow... Consider foo-pm.info, which includes "Package: foo-pm%Q". This file is not compatible with any current version of f

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David R. Morrison wrote: |>So how do you feel about the .vinfo solution? | | | Could you explain that a bit more? I didn't quite follow... Yes lets. dmacks has added some new % expansions to fink. I assumed fink selfupdate did the following: 1. grab

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread David R. Morrison
> So how do you feel about the .vinfo solution? Could you explain that a bit more? I didn't quite follow... -- Dave --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the b

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-26 Thread Daniel Macks
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 02:14:00PM +0900, Peter O'Gorman wrote: > Daniel Macks wrote: > | > | In implementing variants, I'm doing some percent expansions on Package > | using %things that may not be known to previous fink. That means (I > | think) that if a user selfupdates while running an older f

Re: [Fink-devel] gnome on macos x

2004-01-26 Thread Alexander Hansen
You run "gnome-session" -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 26, 2004, at 7:19 AM, Niccolò Battezzati wrote: Hello, I have MacOS X 10.2.8 running on my iMac. I've installed Fink (last release) and I'm trying to use Gnome as window manager for unix

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Zubrzycki wrote: | | On Jan 26, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: | |>> Martin Costabel wrote: |>> |>>> It would be better to make an Alias instead of a symlink. And put it |>>> on the Desktop instead of /Applications. This would be less |>>

[Fink-devel] gnome on macos x

2004-01-26 Thread Niccolò Battezzati
Hello, I have MacOS X 10.2.8 running on my iMac. I've installed Fink (last release) and I'm trying to use Gnome as window manager for unix applications. I installed the bundle-gnome package but I can't run it. If I call the startx command (with -fullscreen or -rootless) it runs XFree86. Can yo

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread David R. Morrison
In my view, the main reason for doing this is that there already exists software out there which on the one hand depends on UNIX libraries which are (or should be) part of Fink, but on the other hand is packaged in OS X form, as an .app bundle which uses a Cocoa interface. Either all of the Unix l

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Jeff Whitaker
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Martin Costabel wrote: > > I believe we have one or two command line apps in fink which are binary. > > One of them is aquaterm that installs an app into /sw/Applications. I > never liked the fact that this is a binary installation, even when you > do "fink install". But I thi

Re: [Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-26 Thread James Gibbs
On Jan 25, 2004, at 8:44 PM, James Gibbs wrote: On Jan 25, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Pierre Mazoyer wrote: ## Dependencies Depends: tcltk (>= 8.0), tcltk-dev (>= 8.0), tcltk-shlibs (>= 8.0) Forgot to mention that versioned deps have to have a revision, like: Depends: tcltk (>= 8.0.0-1), etc. James

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Martin Costabel wrote: D. Höhn wrote: [] I do not quite understand why. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not completely opposed, I just do not get why. We are good at something, which is packaging Unix based applications. There are enough Th

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 26, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Martin Costabel wrote: It would be better to make an Alias instead of a symlink. And put it on the Desktop instead of /Applications. This would be less intrusive. During package installation, people

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Hines wrote: Fine by me, as long as we stick to open source applications ONLY. The No one ever suggested anything else. objection about 'moving apps around' never did make sense to me, i think a more important objection is fink losing focus. I believe we have one or two command line apps

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Keith Conger
This sounds like a nice solution. Keith On Jan 26, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Martin Costabel wrote: It would be better to make an Alias instead of a symlink. And put it on the Desktop instead of /Applications. This would be less intrusive. During package installation, people are us

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Martin Costabel
D. Höhn wrote: [] I do not quite understand why. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not completely opposed, I just do not get why. We are good at something, which is packaging Unix based applications. There are enough This is a false opposition. There are more and more "Unix based applications"

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Benjamin Reed
Martin Costabel wrote: It would be better to make an Alias instead of a symlink. And put it on the Desktop instead of /Applications. This would be less intrusive. During package installation, people are used to things appearing on the desktop. I can imagine installing KDE and having 150 apps on

[Fink-devel] Re: .app's in Fink

2004-01-26 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 26, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: David R. Morrison wrote: My proposal is that we place .app's in /sw/Applications, and then in a postinstall script, set up a symlink from /Applications to the actual .app. It would be better to mak

[Fink-devel] Re: .app's in Fink

2004-01-26 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 26, 2004, at 1:42 AM, D. Höhn wrote: |>I think we will have to restart the old discussion of /sw/Applications, |>too. And I mean a real discussion, not the hasty erection of religious |>taboos as we had in the past. I would really love to see t

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-26 Thread Martin Costabel
David R. Morrison wrote: [] My proposal is that we place .app's in /sw/Applications, and then in a postinstall script, set up a symlink from /Applications to the actual .app. It would be better to make an Alias instead of a symlink. And put it on the Desktop instead of /Applications. This would be

Re: [Fink-devel] Packaging issue - ruby extensions

2004-01-26 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:39:14PM -0500, Daniel Macks wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:10:24AM +0100, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 04:39:27AM -0500, Daniel Macks wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:22:04AM +0100, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: > > > > On

[Fink-devel] apr 0.9.5 and apache 2.0.48 and bdb4.2 (another try)

2004-01-26 Thread Christian Schaffner
Hi Dustin, hi TheSin I am sorry to bother you again on this topic. I heard that you, Dustin, are working on upgrading apache2 and php to work with bdb4.2. Still, i haven't seen as sign on that yet since December. Subversion yesterday released a new version, 0.37, which is probably the last bet

Re: [Fink-devel] gnuplot history -- doesn't detect readline

2004-01-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Joe Corneli wrote: gnuplot> history warning: history command requires some form of readline support fink list readline Information about 2434 packages read in 2 seconds. i readline 4.3-25 Comfortable terminal input library i readline-shlibs4.3-25