Hi all,
I am sorry for the delay in responding to this thread and I don't mean
to resurrect its mostly dead state, but, since I was able to put
together a test case, it seemed reasonable to put it forward.
I was reading the large number of comments about the shotgun being too
unwieldy to be effec
An interesting subject, and not one I usually expect from my learned
colleagues of the Bar. But, if Professor V allows it, excellent,
because I think I know more about handling guns than handling legal
treatises on constitutional law.
I see that the consensus seems to be that handguns are su
State Univ.
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Good point Charles!
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On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 03:14:56PM -0600, Raymond Kessler wrote:
> I’m with Joe.
Another thought here is that you may need to call the cops to come
collect the bad guy. At that point, you may need to hold your phone in
one hand and your weapon in the other. A hand gun is not only easier
to hold (
> Spot on. "What firearm is "best" is an issue so dependent on personal
> capacity, environment and the nature of the threat that the issue what
> single firearm is best non est disputans. Gun rags and gun-counter
> commandos revisit the subject eternally without fear of refutation.
> For some peo
Spot on. "What firearm is "best" is an issue so dependent on personal
capacity, environment and the nature of the threat that the issue what
single firearm is best non est disputans. Gun rags and gun-counter commandos
revisit the subject eternally without fear of refutation. For some people in
some
It appears that we have vastly difference experiences with firearms.
First, my grandkids (16, 14, 12) shoot shotguns including my 12 year
angelic granddaughter who can't weigh 95 pounds.
Second, I would never use buckshot larger than #4 for home defense.
Third, even cops don't get point shooti
In a message dated 2/7/2009 1:27:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
pf...@wdn.com writes:
None of the responders mentioned the risk of liability on injury to
innocents from handgun rounds penetration and range compared to
shotguns.
Shotguns can over penetrate compared to shotguns and vice ve
None of the responders mentioned the risk of liability on injury to
innocents from handgun rounds penetration and range compared to
shotguns.
Also, the shotgun should have a superior hit probability to the
handgun for those with limited experience. In fact on this list has
been a report about
d for self-defense for some people over
handguns
I've often heard people say that shotguns are better than handguns for
self-defense for some people. I know others disagree, but for now I just
want a cite for the proposition that just as Heller points out that handguns
are reasonably prefer
I have many of my books packed up as a result of a recent move of my
study - but of the books I'd consult first would be some by Massad Ayoob
such as "StressFire II - Advanced Combat Shotgun" which has the blurb
http://ayoob.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Ayoob&Pro
ct: Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for
some people over handguns> To: jol...@gw.hamline.edu> CC:
firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu; vol...@law.ucla.edu> > Joe is right about the
myth of filling the hallway with lead. But there > are other factors that may
cause
Joe is right about the myth of filling the hallway with lead. But there
are other factors that may cause some people to reasonably prefer a
properly configured shotgun loaded with appropriate ammunition in many
situations. Some of what Joe calls "practical problems" would be
considered advantag
Unfortunately, Eugene, the shotgun idea is the result of ignorance by gun
owners as well as the general populace. Many in both groups believe the
nonsense that an 18 inch (shortest legal length) barreled shotgun will fill a
hallway with lead. Simply FALSE. The pattern of shotgun pellets expan
I've often heard people say that shotguns are better than handguns
for self-defense for some people. I know others disagree, but for now I
just want a cite for the proposition that just as Heller points out that
handguns are reasonably preferred by some, so shotguns could be
reasonably preferr
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