RE: [Flashcoders] help

Yes, I mean you can at least export a movie clip or bitmap sequence - as far as .swf, - I have aftereffects on my machine at home - I'll try and check tonight if I remember. But you could also look on Adobe's site to check the specs. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions

[Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits for a junior developer? I have a college degree and an extensive IT background but, I'm just now getting into a professional job environment developing but, I have been using flash for some time now. 30K sounds wa too low, would you agree? If someon

RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

All depends on location -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Does 30-55K a year sound right with benefits fo

RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Check with Monster salary tool and check what other people are making in your neck of the woods. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer

RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job located? 30k is really low though, just about anywhere. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan >

[Flashcoders] 3-D rotation effect with Flash

It can be done with a set of still images that are shown as the rotation slider is moved back and forth. With reasonable transition settings, you can get a pretty smooth effect without the huge file size and slow downloads of Video. They did use video when showing the phone is use displaying a vid

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Ok, denver colorado On 6/20/06, Robert Chyko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All depends on location -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:47 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Junior De

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Salary discussions are generally considered off topic on this list. However - if you would like to solicit offlist responses, I'm sure no-one will mind. Also, it might help to specify currency. Hope this helps, Alias On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does 30-55K a year sound righ

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Anyone give me some insight on what category to pick. There are so many. I'm currently looking in Internet and New Media http://monster.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_titleselect.asp?narrowdesc=Internet+and+New+Media&narrowcode=IT02&zipcode=80209&metrocode=&x=66&y=16 On 6/20/06, Tr

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

30 k is pretty low...but yeah it depends on location. you say you have extensive IT experience, but do you have proven flash/flex expereince? that would make a big difference as well. On 6/20/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geography is a huge factor though - where is the job l

RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

55 - 60K is at the bottom of the ladder in the North East USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:03 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? Ok,

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

definetely Location it really DOES matters :) hehe because in Mexico ( where i live ) 30K a year its a well paid job... Usually most of programmers earn around 15K - 20K a year (thankfully not my case :| ), so if any guy is willing to provide a work visa to a humble mexican it will be very welcome

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Dollars? Pounds? Lira? Deutschmarks? Yen? And in which country? And which part of that country? I'm pretty sure I can guess which currency and country - but there is more world out there than just the USA, you know. Ian On 6/20/06, Tristan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does 30-55K a year sound r

Re: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

30k is really low though, just about anywhere .. in US of A In my country, even executives don't get that much unless they work for American/European company. I'd be a happy programmer if I could earn half of it. :-D -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East

Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the suggestion of the list. I'm looking for insight into applying transformations to text (or vectorized text) such as Adobe's "warp" functionality, where you can take an object and make it bulge, arc, squeeze, spherize, etc. in flas

RE: [Flashcoders] Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Yes, sorry, I meant in the USA. Sometimes forget how international this list is. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anggie Bratadinata >>Sent: Tu

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

So, is there anyone in colorado that could give me some feedback on what they make? I looked on monster and in the 75th percentile minimum for just about any job is 50K+ $. Also, he wants to pay me 11$ an hour to get "up to speed". I think this guy is totally ripping me off but, it's worth the ex

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

If you think he's ripping you off, he probably is. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning and Organization Effectiveness Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the

RE: [Flashcoders] external .AS and debuggin

You can use the NetConnection Debugger, an amazing debugging tool that comes with the free remoting components from Macromedia/Adobe (search the site for 'Download Flash Remoting Components'), or if you're feeling frisky, you can grab XRay from osflash and learn that. Breakpoints aren't really

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

$11/ hr accepting that is part of the reason why people think they can pay developers peanuts David Brunswick Multimedia Developer/OLP Administrator FedEx Customer Information Services Customer Service Organizational Learning 901-434-6605 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

RE: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

> That's how the for-in loop works, no idea why. for in loops go backwards because they compile to reverse loops which are MUCH faster than forward loops. For more detailed information on this subject, check out the Flasm page. http://flasm.sourceforge.net/#optas Here are the fastest loops:

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

You get what you pay for. You earn what you ask for. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of David Brunswick > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:09 AM > To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flas

Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

I think you'd need to use bitmapData and some filters on it... like displacement mapping, etc. Not a small task. On 6/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the > suggestion of the list. > > I'm looking for insight into

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

> $11/ hr accepting that is part of the reason why people think > they can pay developers peanuts Here, here. Denver is a big city comparable to L.A., where I am. And in this city, bag boys at grocery stores are making $11/hr. Even way back in '97 when I was in my last corporate job, it was cos

Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

I think you'd need to use bitmapData and some filters on it... like displacement mapping, etc. Not a small task. Thanks! Any suggestions on where I could look for more information on applying filters to bitmapData other than on this list? Are there any other ways of doing this? I thought a

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Well said. I agree. I'll test the waters and jump out if it's not working. I'm still keeping my day job until I'm satisfied with coming on full time. Although, now that missiles are being tossed our way, maybe I should just be happy to be alive! Geez, I hope someday we all get along. Life's too sh

[Flashcoders] test

test ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://ww

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Great article, thanks steven! On 6/20/06 10:22 AM, "Steven Sacks | BLITZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's how the for-in loop works, no idea why. > > for in loops go backwards because they compile to reverse loops which > are MUCH faster than forward loops. For more detailed information o

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

apologies for keeping this thread open... From what I've gleaned, while the rate quoted to you may be low, it does sound like a transitionary rate and appropriate. Not that you're only worth it but because you sound very inexperienced in the market. What I mean by "inexperienced" is you h

[Flashcoders] Targeting multiple player versions with one swf

Hi everyone, Does anyone know of any techniques that can be used to write ActionScript targeting more than one version of the Flash player? This would be for the purpose of creating an application that is backward-compatible, but uses functionality specific to a newer SWF specification when a

RE: [Flashcoders] Targeting multiple player versions with one swf

Why don't you just load one of two swfs, each with their own includes? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Tom Lee > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:56 PM > To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' > Subject: [Flashcoders] Targeting multiple

RE: [Flashcoders] Targeting multiple player versions with one swf

I don't like the idea of maintaining two separate versions of an application - that can get out of control very quickly. It would be cleaner to abstract the version-specific stuff to the framework level, and make calls to the framework. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

These are most interesting points Radley. However on the topic of 'pre-made code', I am now wondering what is the practices of some the freelancer/consultants/etc. on the list. If people pay you money for code, be it 30k or 100k, is it right to use your past developed code on future code? I think

Re: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Please move this thread somewhere else. If 'OT' appears in the subject line, that ought to be a clue to everyone that the thread no longer belongs on Flashcoders. Intellectual property and business practice discussions don't really belong here. > > From: "Mark Lapasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dat

RE: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

> Please move this thread somewhere else. If 'OT' appears in > the subject line, that ought to be a clue to everyone that > the thread no longer belongs on Flashcoders. Intellectual > property and business practice discussions don't really belong here. Not to mention it has been discussed to de

RE: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

> If anything, this is further proof that Flashcoders has been infested with newbies. Ouch. I'm sorry. These lists are the only lists that I can usually get accurate and "happy to help" information for the majority of the time I guess. I just don't know if Monster or salary.com are good real worl

RE: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Oh and thanks for those who did reply, it made a difference in my decision and attitude towards the whole thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:41 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject:

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Mark Lapasa wrote: These are most interesting points Radley. However on the topic of 'pre-made code', I am now wondering what is the practices of some the freelancer/consultants/etc. on the list. If people pay you money for code, be it 30k or 100k, is it right to use your past developed code o

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

Why worry about code you've written before? If it were an issue then no one would be able to build more than one web page in a life time because you'll inevitably use the same embed tags more than once. No client knows how or what you code, much less who your other clients are. Also, if you let s

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?

I had a situation were my hourly rate was roughly three times the hourly rate a particular company was use to paying for Flash work. They wanted me to come down in price and by a lot whereas I felt I was already a bargain. It was a short four week project and feeling confident in my capabili

[Flashcoders] growing animation

Hi.everyone Here is the link: http://www.interone.de/cms/de/ Anybody can explain how did they do ! Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/li

Re: [Flashcoders] growing animation

It looks like a lot of onEnterFrame (to position the flower and adjust as it grows) and setInterval for the spawning of the branches. I think the text generation uses setInterval, maybe 100 milliseconds to make it seem like it's being output by a computer. Really beautiful work, I think. Mike _

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Why is the data output in reverse order and is there any way of ordering it one,two,three? Because object are FILO, and yes, use the numbered index. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archi

Re: [Flashcoders] growing animation

Check gskinner.com He has an example of this.Basically its an enterframe to simulate the camera movement and not sure about the branches - probably another process for that. > > Hi.everyone > > > Here is the link: > http://www.interone.de/cms/de/ > > Anybody can explain how did they do ! > > Than

[Flashcoders] using getPixel on a rotated movieclip

hi all, I have a movieclip with an attachedBitmap. When I rotate the mc, I'd like to then be able to use getPixel to find out what rgb value is clicked on. I tried creating a temporary mc that contains yet another bitmap with mc.draw(rotated_mc) and a rotated matrixtransform, but the re

[Flashcoders] flash media server on macbook..

Hey all - have a shiny new macbook 17" and have installled Parallels, allowing me to run windows without rebooting. I want to install Flash Media Server 2; whenever I launch it, it bounces a few times then quits... Has anyon gotten this setup to work?

[Flashcoders] Abstract Classes and Interfaces ...

Are Abstract Classes and Interfaces the same thing ? Stephen.___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software

Re: [Flashcoders] growing animation

there was an article "Making of www.interone.de" in a german journal called PAGE. http://www.page-online.de/archiv/download.php?id=200602 But I can't remember about the flash approaches they did. I only remember that they used Cinema4D for rendering, Photoshop and the Flash IDE (not FAMES or the l

Re: [Flashcoders] Best component set for Flash 8 / MTASC development?

> So does anyone know of a component set that works well, and meets > my requirements? > > - Todd Hivnor You can maybe have a look at open source component sets such as ActionStep (http://actionstep.org) and ASWing (http://www.aswing.org) Nicolas __

[Flashcoders] Flash 8 - Import AS Compile Bug

I am having a nightmare with a FLA that does not want to compile anymore - it generates the following error (Flash 8 AS 2.0): **Error** Scene=Scene 1, layer=code, frame=1:Line 3: Type mismatch in assignment statement: found Number where String is required. import nav.MenuXML; Does anybody

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash 8 - Import AS Compile Bug

I had a similar problem after I installed the .NET framework The .NET framework installed a new user on my machine and then all my class paths were messed up and flash couldn't find them. I remedied it by buying a new computer. Haha. I think reinstalling flash would also do the trick. That might

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash 8 - Import AS Compile Bug

I have these sorts of issues a lot - I find deleting the ASO files (from the control menu) usually fixes it M > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Dave Parsons > Sent: 20 June 2006 11:12 > To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 8 - Import AS Compile Bug

I to all the problem is about class cacheing, flash caches classes on ASO files and generates sinchrony error between compiled class and cached version. deleting ASO files on control menu fixes the problem. You can define a keyboard shortcut to "delete ASO files and test movie" and use it inste

[Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Hi list... >From the help on "for...in": You can also iterate through the elements of an array: var myArray:Array = ["one", "two", "three"]; for (var i:String in myArray) { trace(myArray[i]); } This code outputs the following in the Output panel: three two One Why is the data output in

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

for..in usually loops thru the elements in 'reverse' order; though, the for..in loop's output is supposed to be in a unpredictable order. If you want the elements to be in a

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

There is no specified ordering for the for .. in loop. It seems to be the order, in which the elements were added to the array, but you should only use for .. in, if order has no importance. Janosch Mendelsohn, Michael schrieb: Hi list... From the help on "for...in": You can also iterat

RE: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Hi Michael, That's how the for-in loop works, no idea why. If you want to count forwards, you need to use: for (var i:Number = 0; i -Original Message- > From: Mendelsohn, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 June 2006 14:31 > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: [Flashcoders]

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Mendelsohn, Michael wrote: Hi list... >From the help on "for...in": You can also iterate through the elements of an array: var myArray:Array = ["one", "two", "three"]; for (var i:String in myArray) { trace(myArray[i]); } This code outputs the following in the Output panel: three two O

RE: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

You can also try this: var myArray:Array = ["one","two","three"]; //order myArray in reverse myArray = myArray.reverse(); for(var i in myArray){ trace(myArray[i]); } //order myArray as it originally was myArray = myArray.reverse(); But as was already brought out for...in can be unpredicta

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Hi Michael, That's how the for-in loop works, no idea why. If you want to count forwards, you need to use: for (var i:Number = 0; i There's a pretty good reason, in fact (or at least, this is why it's done in Director, can't speak for Flash). The reason is that if you delete an element from

Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?

Well the order of your strings is something subjective... You should use Array.sort([function]) and create a custom sorting function that would sort your array the way you want: var array:Array = ["seventy-four", "ten", "twelve"]; function sortByStringLength(a:Object, b:Object):Number { if (S

[Flashcoders] help

I need help with creating a site somewhat like this onehttp://www.samsung.com/se/current/campaign/slim/site/index.htm I'm trying to figure out the coding involved in this site. Thanks! Rich ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subs

[Flashcoders] timezoneOffset inconsistencies

Hello List, I'm generating date objects for a list of String values and get different results for the timezoneOffset: 20:00 --> Wed Jun 21 21:00:00 GMT+0100 2006 18:00 --> Fri Jun 16 19:00:00 GMT+0100 2006 15:00 --> Sun Jun 11 16:00:00 GMT+0100 2006 15:00 --> Sun Jun 4 16:00:00 GMT+0100 2006 20

Re: [Flashcoders] help

Well first you need to have a good graphics team with you to do all the 3D and video and pictures part, next you need to work on your concept, and finally you do join everything together for a nice site that took about 1 month to build. There isn¹t much coding in that site, mostly animation, transi

Re: [Flashcoders] help

Sorry Richard, but you probably won't get much help with a non-question phrased like that. You're better off picking a small portion of the site that you'd like to replicate, making an attempt at it, doing some research, and then coming back with a specific question about how to accomplish the

RE: [Flashcoders] help

>>I need help with creating a site somewhat like this >>onehttp://www.samsung.com/se/current/campaign/slim/site/index.htm >> >>I'm trying to figure out the coding involved in this site. Thanks! I need web site. Please send source code. LOL. (Richard, I think you'll need to be just a tad mor

[Flashcoders] external .AS and debuggin

hiya - I am using external .as files (for CVS and other reasons) but this seems to prevent debugging of the movie - is there a way around this? when i open the .AS files in the flashIDE and attach breakpoints, they have no effect. i dont really want to setup MTASC (or however i can get debuggin

RE: [Flashcoders] timezoneOffset inconsistencies

Yes, you can test by changing the date on your machine to not be in daylight savings and you should see your timezone offset displayed correctly then. Ran into this myself once before. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yotam Laufer Sent: Tu

[Flashcoders] external .AS files and debugging

hiya - I am using external .as actionscript/text files (for CVS and other reasons) but this seems to prevent debugging of the movie - is there a way around this? when i open the .AS files in the flashIDE and attach breakpoints, they have no effect. i dont really want to setup MTASC (or however

Re: [Flashcoders] help

Bachman, Richard wrote: I need help with creating a site somewhat like this onehttp://www.samsung.com/se/current/campaign/slim/site/index.htm I'm trying to figure out the coding involved in this site. Thanks! There could be quite a bit. I did not try the game but the phone exploratio

Re: [Flashcoders] help

Sorry Richard, but you probably won't get much help with a non-question phrased like that. You're better off picking a small portion of the site that you'd like to replicate, making an attempt at it, doing some research, and then coming back with a specific question about how to accomplish t

RE: [Flashcoders] external .AS and debuggin

Is there any entry point from your flash file to .as file. Like any call to a function which is written in .as file and called from flash file. If yes then you can set the break point to the function call in flash file and can debug the as file code and set many more breakpoints too. -Or

Re: [Flashcoders] timezoneOffset inconsistencies

Thank Robert. I need to process times in various dates around the year and display them. That is easy as the time is sent to me as String and I know that it is always GMT+0100. The problems is that I need to countdown to the time. I cannot compensate for different time zones because timezoneOffse

RE: [Flashcoders] help

Thanks for the reply Ron... Right now I'm just trying to recreate the "3-D Camera" rotation after you select a different phone to explore. Is this done is some video software or can it be done with flash? Any ideas would be very helpful. Thanks. Richard Bachman Assistant Art Director | 316.828.

RE: [Flashcoders] UML + Actionscript

Q: When I say that class X is a "composition" of class Y and class Z, is this because X has properties that are defined AS _TYPE_ Y and Z? A: When you say X is a composition class Y and class Z, all you are saying is that X has dependencies on Y and Z to get information. Saying "X has property tha

Re: [Flashcoders] help

You need to have the actual 3D view of the object to do this. You either take pictures of your object in different angles, or you can film it rotating or you can make a 3D animation of it rotating. After that, you create transition animations for each scene you want to create using the pictures (mo

RE: [Flashcoders] help

I would echo Jason's comments. It's not really an impressive site: hard to see, gratuitous music, UI needs some work, and even the 3D rotation is jerky. I really hope you're just referring to this site because you plan to do better. BTW, I really hate the arrogance of programmers who presume to re

RE: [Flashcoders] help

A 3-D rotation like that is done with a 3-D app like Maya or Studio Max. Or possibly Swift 3D, but you're going to run into some modeling and rendering limitations with Swift 3D (though to be fair, you can do some neat stuff with it). Then the animation is exported from the 3-D app as .swf file or

RE: [Flashcoders] help

Thanks for the helpful info...The site I am working on will actually be a movie...shot green screen and then edited with aftereffects. Do you know if after effects can export a swf file that can be controled through flash the same way as you explain below? Richard Bachman Assistant Art Director |

RE: [Flashcoders] help

I think if you want to see some great Flash sites with 3-D rotation and rendering then look to the auto manufacturers web sites. The're some really good stuff out there and they usually pay the big bucks to get good designers and programmers involved. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Tech

RE: [Flashcoders] help

Richard, You may find this devnet article on AfterEffects and Flash integration helpful: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/3d_in_flash.html -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bachman, Richard Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:0