This is probably a moot point, but being the platform flash is and its ability
to manipulate objects and apply code to the interactions of the objects in an
easy user friendly layout, it would seem that Adobe would look into enabling
flash to pick if it used ActionScript or Javascript or even a
I think the fact that this list is pretty inactive says it all.
I'm freelancing at an agency right now who I make AIR apps for. I used to
make a lot of them for a few years, but recently I think they are looking
more and more at html5/js solutions. A few years ago I used to make Flash
websites for
That seems to be mostly about ASNext/AVMNext which has since been
canned, and the developers moved not back to AS3, but to webkit and
other web tech.
Kevin N.
On 5/10/13 7:20 AM, John McCormack wrote:
Alex Harui at Adobe had these interesting things to say:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/grou
Gospel.
Kevin N.
On 5/9/13 11:18 AM, James Merrill wrote:
>From my perspective as a former Flash Developer at an Ad agency, I can't
imagine us getting any more serious Flash work. These days we still use
Flash for banner ads, but that's it. We've tried using Adobe Edge to do
HTML5 banners, but
Alex Harui at Adobe had these interesting things to say:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/165517
John
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the differences in the flash and createJS apis? or the state of affairs? ;)
no offence meant Mike, just the way it has played out has left a bitter
taste in a lot of peoples mouths I'd reckon. I've personally lost income
through it for sure as I now have to convince people that my skills are
trans
Just an fyi, but this is something that we are working on addressing.
mike chambers
m...@adobe.com
On May 9, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Weyert de Boer wrote:
> I think the main issue with EDGE is that it generates such big files. I
> haven't been able to create a useful banner animation with it. Well,
Did adobe really advance the state of the art with flash though? they did
stuff that the community was screaming for and had been for a long time. It
was often buggy too.
CreteJS is very nice, and it's only just started so I expect it to get
better. For the web I've already done a couple of things
Yea, that's why it's excellent for demoware. The suite clearly allows creatives
to demonstrate work and it adds a fair amount of value to prototyping/demo work.
In the keynote, we saw Photoshop to Edge Reflow export – a very useful step to
PS CC to export graphics quickly and have them in-place
I think the main issue with EDGE is that it generates such big files. I haven't
been able to create a useful banner animation with it. Well, one that meets the
maximum file size for a HTML5 banner. Only the Edge script is already bigger ;)
Yes, I have to admit CreateJS looks promising.
> Thanks
Thanks for the link Mike, it seems that CreateJS is definitely a step in
the right direction.
I'm still not sold on Adobe's EDGE suite though... I am afraid that I'll
always be skeptical of generated HTML after seeing Dreamweaver's design
view. I also know from experience that including Adobe Edge
Nice to see you're still lurking, mesh :)
CreateJS looks interesting and I've toyed with it a bit. Some of the new
integration opportunities with Flash CC will be interesting to check out.
However, it'll be primarily a toy and best for demo work until (and if) Adobe
can create a clear professio
Check out CreateJS:
http://www.createjs.com/
Includes the ability to export from Flash Pro.
mike chambers
m...@adobe.com
On May 8, 2013, at 8:30 AM, "Liu, Peter" wrote:
> Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can
> continue to use Flash without the need to lea
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>From my persp
>From my perspective as a former Flash Developer at an Ad agency, I can't
imagine us getting any more serious Flash work. These days we still use
Flash for banner ads, but that's it. We've tried using Adobe Edge to do
HTML5 banners, but it was an awful experience. I rest ALL of my blame on
Adobe fo
On 5/8/13 2:20 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on
PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)?
NME / haXe, or with a bit of additional work, Xamarin (with the various
Mono ports) - or Unity3D - based on the same tech. There are doz
Sorry, but when someone says that HTML5 is replacing what can be done in Flash,
I can't take them seriously. Flash made what you built look and act the same in
all browsers. HTML5 is going the same path as every previous version. Features
working some the same, some differently, some not at all
And it will only get better with Flash Professional CC. :)
http://www.adobe.com/products/flash.html
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
On May 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote:
>
> But they did n
Have a look at what this guy has to say on the topic, it's worth a read:
(was posted Apr 26, 2013)
http://duboiseric.wordpress.com/category/is-flash-dead/
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Of course the did!!!
There are over 500,000 apps up in the store. The 25k+ are native Flash builds.
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
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On May 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote:
> But they did not
I've just brought 4 educational games (originally built) for the desktop, 2
where projectors apps and two where AIR. All four are up in the iTunes store
for sale on iPads. I'm doing 6 more and then building one from scratch
specifically for the iPad in Flash.
Haven't done a website in three yea
"Dead" might have been too strong, admittedly. But it's a hard sell. Partly
because every client has an iPad these days, and if their content doesn't
work on their iPad, all hell breaks loose, so its easier to dumb it down to
work with JS/CSS-based solutions.
And yes, there are amazing Flash sites
> Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes.
But they did not create in Flash I think.
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I know many Flash developers that moved over to xCode or Java/Javascript.
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Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:
> Adobe not so much.
_
Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes.
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:
> heck AIR is - in fact, many still operate under the "Fla
I don't think its a niche…
Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on
PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)?
Till they have one, I can support all the platforms my clients want right now.
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Intera
That seems to be Adobe's general problem. They are very reactive, like
used car salesmen. "You want HTML5? Boy have we got HTML5! Clouds? We
got clouds - on sale this week only!" Technology companies can't succeed
that way.
Kevin N.
On 5/8/13 1:58 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:
Adobe didn'
That's what I mean by I think of Flash as Directory/Shockwave. It's not
dead, it's just not the job engine it was for a while. It's a much
harder sell - but it's still possible, and still has its niches.
I still think Adobe could do some things to make it easier, even if they
don't actively pr
On 5/8/13 1:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days.
A few thoughts:
1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash
still one of the popular tools to use for video animation?
It was popular for certain types
Adobe didn't even make any kind of an announcement or anything. I'm a AUG
manager and didn't hear about it there, but on LinkedIn when someone posted
their 3D game, created in a pre-release version of D12 and running on a iPad.
And running QUITE well I might add. :)
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senio
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr.
wrote:
> And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :)
Wha??? That blows my mind. I thought Director was dead. Shows what I know! :D
So, is it any good these days? Director was a fun animation tool back
when I used i
And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :)
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
On May 8, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
> Then again, I'd hate to see Flash go the way of Direc
Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days.
A few thoughts:
1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash
still one of the popular tools to use for video animation?
2. I love AS3! I'd take AS3 and the Flash GUI over HTML5 any day.
3. We d
Matt, If we need to have animation/cartoon or games on iPad and
Android what is the programme for both platform? Do you mean that
Flash can be used for both and that is why it has potential? What the
tech word can offer in this situation?
2013/5/8 Matt S. :
> It's effectively dead in the browser
It's dead on the MOBILE browser.
There are tons of sites still using the power of Flash.
http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites
John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
On May 8, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Matt S.
Liu, Peter skriver:
> Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can
> continue to use Flash without the need to learn another program?
>
Because HTML5 doesn't do a good job at vector animation. The Flash
runtime is quite powerful. And it is difficult to replicate so mu
It's effectively dead in the browser, except for some niche markets (game
dev, children's content, educational), but it will survive for a long time,
and has some potential in App and Game development across platforms.
The real problem is that in the tech world, being perceived as last-years
techn
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I think of Flash the way I think of Shockwave. There is still work out there,
but not much, and less every minute.
Kevin N.
On 5/8/13 10:40 AM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote:
> Hi
>
I think of Flash the way I think of Shockwave. There is still work out
there, but not much, and less every minute.
Kevin N.
On 5/8/13 10:40 AM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote:
Hi
What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a
pity but it seems that almost all clients have n
Flash will be here for the years to come. Gladly, it isn't the sexy thing where
trendy buzzers are. So, there are less projects, but projects are still flowing
here, at least on the top high client part.
I have no future, but Flash has one. Just look at all those HTML5 bad designs ;)
Le 8 mai 2
Hi
What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a
pity but it seems that almost all clients have no interest in Flash
projects.
Do you think Adobe Flash has no future? Where to move from Flash?
Thanks
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