I disagree, Arp and Cairngorm are architectural frameworks. Flex is an
application framework. From what I understand Rails is primarily an
application framework with some architectural elements as well. So I
would say...
Rails is to Ruby as Flex ( + optinally Arp or Caringorm) is to Flash.
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After nearly two years of working in ActionScript, my company decided
that Flash development was too
Another issue with developing a Rails or Cake type of framework for
Flash is the rate at which Flash changes undermines the effort.
PHP, Java, Ruby - these languages get upgrades, improvements and bug
fixes over the years, but for the most part, don't change that much, and
get a lot of additional
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After nearly two years of working in ActionScript, my company decided
that Flash development was too painful and just not worth the effort
I started this thread for a simple reason, love or loath Ruby what has been
developed here has enabled several of my clients to deploy excellent web
applications with a significantly reduced investment of time with no aparent
compromise on functionality.
I think thats great. I wish the same
I am looking at ARP and Carngorm at the moment and they are not proving easy
to use and I am a highly experienced AS developer.
I have also started looking at Flex. . .
Did you have a look at haXe ?
http://haxe.org
It has builtin remoting for communicating with Flash. The idea is that
you
Have you ever built anything in haXe? If so how did you find the experience?
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I am looking at ARP and Carngorm at the moment and they are not proving
easy
to use and I am a highly experienced AS developer.
I have also started looking at
Have you ever built anything in haXe? If so how did you find the experience?
Disclaimer : I'm the haXe author
I have been building several websites and flash games with haXe and its
predecessor (our in-house language MotionTypes). The less I can say is
that using it has been tremendously
I see. I will have a good look at haXe as well. I like the idea but am a bit
worried about the amount of time I would have to invest to gain enough
understanding to build an application. How long would you imagin it might
take to for me to get started?
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I see. I will have a good look at haXe as well. I like the idea but am a bit
worried about the amount of time I would have to invest to gain enough
understanding to build an application. How long would you imagin it might
take to for me to get started?
Very quickly, especially if you have
James,
Rails and Flex work very well together. Maybe you should consider
following that career path - a Flex/Rails developer. Jesse Warden has
gone that way and loves it.
http://www.recentrambles.com/pragmatic/view/31
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After nearly two years of working in ActionScript, my company decided that
Flash development was too painful and just not worth the effort.
This happened just about the time that I was actually getting the hang of
things. In any case, I was the last Flash(AS2) Developer left here...
I'm in full
and where does your company decided to move for ?
2006/7/20, Ujjwal Kabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
After nearly two years of working in ActionScript, my company decided that
Flash development was too painful and just not worth the effort.
This happened just about the time that I was actually
Thanks to all of you for your comments. Dispite googling for just this sort
of thing I had never come accross ARP or Cairngorm. I shall take a good long
look at both . I have literally just installed Flex builder 2 and will be
expermeting with that as well.
If any of these things save me as
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I like the idea, and think a lot of people are trying it with you. But
wouldn't this result in something like...Flex?
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I like the idea, and think a lot of people are trying it with you. But
wouldn't this result in something like
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Sorry Nick I was simply unaware of them. Now that I am I will be trying them
out.
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There still hasn't been a decent reason in this thread why the
existing frameworks
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no problemo.
In case nobody has posted the links:
http://www.osflash.org/arp
And
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Cairngorm
Cheers
Ruby and ARP.
Correct me if I'm wrong plz :)
Grt, Ben
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no problemo
:)
Grt, Ben
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no problemo.
In case nobody has posted the links
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Ruby, is a (slick) programming language
Rails is an application framework...
Cake
That's why I was thinking about Flex sooner then something like ARP.
It's not really a question of Flex vs. ARP from what I understand of ARP
as it's more of a development methodology and structural framework that
supports Actionscript, but also supports Flex. But starting out,
regardless of
Merrill, Jason wrote:
That's why I was thinking about Flex sooner then something like ARP.
Yeah, ARP documentation isn't really that clear. Also you can't really
print it out well. Main problem.
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Rails is to Ruby what ARP and Cairngorm are to Actionscript.
You can't just say Framework is to Language as Framework is to
Language. The Rails approach is different and, in many people's
opinions, better. There's a reason there is more buzz surrounding Ruby
on Rails than frameworks like Cake,
Well, Ruby on Rails is just a hype. Their are some issues with it which
cause database corruption.
Yours,
Weyert
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Well, Ruby on Rails is just a hype. Their are some issues with it
which
cause database corruption.
Oh really? Do tell.
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Oh really? Do tell.
The reason I ask is because I don't think you can blame Rails for
something that's a programmer issue. That's like blaming Flash for bugs
in people's Flash apps.
On top
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At one time, Director developers were saying Flash was just hype.
Macromedia just had great marketing but their product wasn't very good.
Flash sucks. :P
wtf is director ?
micha
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How you like them apples? :)
Unfortunately, there is no baked in configuration for peach cobbler,
blackberry pie, and apricot fried pies, and since my clients aren't
interested in plain old apple pie, ROR is mostly useless for me. ;-)
ryanm
I just don't like Ruby it's my main problem with it. Syntax is ugly in
my opinion.
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Brought to
http://blogs.borland.com/fhaglund/archive/2006/07/15/25963.aspx ;-)
And yet at the end of said article
There might be easy ways get this to work in Rails but I'm a Rails
rookie and I have not found it yet. Can someone with deeper knowledge
enlighten me?
What we have here is a programmer error,
At one time, Director developers were saying Flash was just hype.
Macromedia just had great marketing but their product wasn't very good.
Flash sucks. :P
I think that says more about the average Director developer than about
Flash or Macromedia. ;-)
ryanm
I think that says more about the average Director developer than about
Flash or Macromedia. ;-)
Heh, I was joking to make a point. I don't think anyone can claim to
know the future and label new technologies as just hype, especially
not having delved into them personally to weigh the benefits
As it ends up, his comments were fueled solely by his dislike for Ruby's
syntax, which has nothing to do with whether or not Ruby on Rails is
deserving of the attention and praise it is getting.
I don't see why my dislike of Ruby's syntax has anything to do with
this. I won't bother
We definitely can do this, but it may amount to reinventing the wheel.
Do you suggest this in lieu of Cairngorm and ARP? Are there things about
these frameworks that make them undesirable?
Mike
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We definitely can do this, but it may amount to reinventing the wheel.
Do you suggest this in lieu of Cairngorm and ARP? Are there things about
these frameworks that make them undesirable?
Mike
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Have you tried using ARP, the RIA Framework by Aral Balkan?
Cheers,
James
Dear List (I should say lists this going to Flash and Flex coders),
I am a very and I mean very experienced ActionScript coder. I have been
writng code and storing it for re-use for 7 years. I have just installed
To me (at least to some extent), Flex is to Flash what Rails is to
Ruby. And of course you have Cairngorm or ARP for structural framework.
-Steve
Dear List (I should say lists this going to Flash and Flex coders),
I am
Sure, here's the first step. Buy and read the following books:
Agile Web Development with Rails - 2nd Edition
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/index.html
This will give you a solid foundation on why Rails is such an
outstanding framework.
Practices of an Agile Developer
One of my fav's
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The Pragmatic Programmer
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ppbook/index.shtml
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