[Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Colleagues, I have been running JT65A using the JT65-HF software for the past month or so with good results (several hundred contacts with at least half DX). I have a Flex-5000 and I am running PowerSDR 2.2.3 under Windows 7/32. I have set my Drive control to 100 and have adjusted the VAC TX

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Guy Harris
Ed, Are you serious? Understand that JT65 is a WEAK signal mode; one the biggest problems is people running far too much power and causing de-sensing. Please do a little research on this mode before proceeding; and try running 5 Watts. I don't mean to be snippy but... 73, ~~Guy, W6NJX

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Guy, I do not think that I de-sense anyone's receive capability with my 25 watts and indoor antennas. I typically get signal reports of -15 dB and I do not believe that I have ever received one better than -09 dB. I only asked the question because I was curious as to why I could not increase

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread KQ8RP
Ed, I run JT65 all the time with 5 watts of power. I worked JT1 last night which was Mongolia. Turn down your power and have fun.. The most you may need is 20-25 watts. Scott KQ8RP -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Guy Harris w6...@guysfreehold.com wrote: Ed, Are you serious? Understand that JT65 is a WEAK signal mode; one the biggest problems is people running far too much power and causing de-sensing. Desense is overload (compression). You need a lot of signal to

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Dave Beumer WØDHB
Ed Have you tried to get higher power with other digital modes ? I can get 60+ watts out on PSK with Drive at 100, ALC level of -3 with level slider -1 . Are you certain your xmit filter is not attenuating the output.. have you tested with a dummy load ? Dave -Original Message-

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Drax Felton
Or run higher power on 160m and open some paths not normally useable. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Guy Harris w6...@guysfreehold.com wrote: Ed, Are you serious? Understand that JT65 is a WEAK signal mode; one the biggest problems is people running far too much

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Dave, Thanks for the hints. First of all, the dummy load does not make any difference compared to the antenna since the VSWR is essentially 1:1 with the antenna. I did try PSK31 using DM780 and I was able to obtain about 50 watts output with the ALC reading -3 dB...I believe that I moved the

[Flexradio] Anyone heard from Neal?

2011-10-20 Thread Gary Strong
After a few emails back and forth, I ordered a Flex-ready computer from Neal at Abroham Software on Monday and sent a few emails after that regarding software with no reply. I also just called and got no reply. Anyone out there know what has happened? The last item was an automated confirmation

Re: [Flexradio] Anyone heard from Neal?

2011-10-20 Thread Neal Campbell
I am online helping a customer right now! Call back in an hour or so. 73 On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Gary Strong gwstr...@verizon.net wrote: After a few emails back and forth, I ordered a Flex-ready computer from Neal at Abroham Software on Monday and sent a few emails after that

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Bob McGwier
Put the radio in DIGITAL mode, upper probably and ALC should not be a problem. This is why we did the mode. If you are already in digital mode, let me know Bob N4HY Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone -Original message- From: Ed Wilson ed.wil...@ymail.com To:

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Bob, I do use DIGU for my JT65A work. Ed, K0KC From: Bob McGwier n...@flex-radio.com To: Ed Wilson ed.wil...@ymail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com flexra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:29 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ron Kolarik
Ed, If you setup a custom TX filter, mine is 1000Hz low and 1800Hz high, you will get more power out with the VAC TX slider set a lot lower than what you are running. The only problem with doing it that way is you can't have TX=RX offset turned on in JT65-HF, if a station is -400 from you then

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Ron, Thanks for the comments! I am one of those guys who really likes the click-n-go capability of JT65A. I have enough difficulty remembering to mouse click in the twelve (or fewer) seconds that I have before the next minute starts. If I had to also move the radio filter, I might have

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Dave Beumer WØDHB
Ed When I get a chance later today I’ll see the max power I can get out of JT65 alc -3 drive slider 100 into a dummy load. Have you tested your max power out hitting “TUN” and running Drive to 100 ? Maybe your overall output power is low. Dave From: Ed Wilson

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Dave, I can get 100 watts out in the tune mode (and CW when I use that mode). Ed, K0KC From: Dave Beumer WØDHB d...@w0dhb.net To: 'Ed Wilson' ed.wil...@ymail.com; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:48 PM

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Tim Ellison
Your PA is fine. The amount of drive is dependent on the AF gain being fed from the digital mode program. If it is not putting out 0 dB, then a VAC TX gain setting of 0 dB will not produce very near 100 watts PEP with a tone. You ALWAYS want to use DIGx modes for digital mode operation

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Ed Wilson ed.wil...@ymail.com wrote: ** Dave, I can get 100 watts out in the tune mode (and CW when I use that mode). In order to keep sidebands in check and keep emissions narrow, most of the digital modes have a significant amplitude component. (Most do

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Thanks for the info, Tim. Maybe I am being too conservative with the -3 dB on the ALC, but I do not want to put out some of the garbage that I sometimes see when listening to JT-65 signals. A setting on the VAC TX gain of -1 dB would not put out anything close to 100 watts on my rigs, so

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Good info, Brian...thanks! Ed, K0KC From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com To: flexra...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Flexradio@flex-radio.biz Flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF On Thu, Oct 20,

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Dave Beumer WØDHB
Ed Using a transmit profile with a 250Hz wide filter centered at 1500 will help . Davt From: Ed Wilson [mailto:ed.wil...@ymail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:21 PM To: Tim Ellison; flexra...@yahoogroups.com; w6...@w6cqz.org Cc: Dave Beumer WØDHB; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Ed Wilson
Thanks, Dave! From: Dave Beumer WØDHB d...@w0dhb.net To: 'Ed Wilson' ed.wil...@ymail.com; 'Tim Ellison' t.m.ellison...@gmail.com; flexra...@yahoogroups.com; w6...@w6cqz.org Cc: Flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:30 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Dave Beumer WØDHB d...@w0dhb.net wrote: Ed Using a transmit profile with a 250Hz wide filter centered at 1500 will help . Well, actually, it won't. The only reason to run a narrower TX filter is if the signal being presented to the transmitter already has

Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF

2011-10-20 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ed Wilson ed.wil...@ymail.com wrote: Thanks for the info, Tim. I do not want to put out some of the garbage that I sometimes see JT65 is not PSK,and differs from it in many ways. The program is extremely thoroughly documented and the info

[Flexradio] Power output control feature request.

2011-10-20 Thread Steven Hess
I'd like a finer control over output power in PowerSDR. With my Flex-3000 in the digital modes the power control isn't fine enough. Id like to see the ability to adjust in .2 of a watt increments at times. Right now this just isn't possible. -- Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22

Re: [Flexradio] Power output control feature request.

2011-10-20 Thread Tom Brown N4TAB
Maybe I'm wrong, but most of the controls (including, I think the Drive slider) move in 1 dB increments. In a Lab environment, +/- 1 dB in the RF domain is a tough target to maintain without a LOT of process. 73, Tom N4TAB ~~ On 10/20/2011 9:15 PM, Steven Hess wrote: I'd like a

Re: [Flexradio] Power output control feature request.

2011-10-20 Thread Tim Ellison, W4TME
You are welcome to submit and enhancement request ticket via the HelpDesk (http://helpdesk.flexradio.com) for this feature request, but it would be very difficult if not impossible to do with any accuracy. -Tim --- Tim Ellison, W4TME Product Management, Sales Support FlexRadio Systems^(TM)

Re: [Flexradio] Power output control feature request.

2011-10-20 Thread Steven Hess
OK in a conventional radio you adjust the audio level to adjust output power. In PowerSDR you have to adjust both the Drive and (VAC) TX gain. Doing so I can't get exactly 5 watts output I desire on my digital watt meter it's always several tenths off. I know that the meters accuracy may be wildly

Re: [Flexradio] Power output control feature request.

2011-10-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Steven Hess flameb...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like a finer control over output power in PowerSDR. With my Flex-3000 in the digital modes the power control isn't fine enough. Id like to see the ability to adjust in .2 of a watt increments at times. Right now this