Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi John You sure seem to have had your fair share of trouble doing the build.I assume you have a running version of FG from the binaries. You say you are a software engineer maybe this is part of the problem(I mean this in the nicest way). I have and had very little knowledge of building FG so I ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: base package aircraft and aliases

2004-03-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > In the next couple weeks I'd like to start moving seriously towards our > next release. I think it would be tremendously helpful to coordinate the with the next PLib release. There have been sooo many changes to PLib that FlightGear should _not_ base on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: base package aircraft and aliases

2004-03-16 Thread Durk Talsma
I agree that trimming down the base package (for the release) is probably a good idea. I'm beginning to wonder if the "base" package isn't starting to overshoot it's target these days. What I mean to say with this is that a few years ago we had a pretty big discussion about whether or not to se

[Flightgear-devel] RFD: base package aircraft and aliases

2004-03-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
In the next couple weeks I'd like to start moving seriously towards our next release. There are probably many things that could stand to be tweaked and polished but two related items jump out at me tonight. 1. I'm growing less enthused with our aircraft alias naming system. I don't mind that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem Under Cygwin

2004-03-16 Thread Jonathan Polley
I just updated to the latest changes in CVS. I got by my previous build error, only to have it crop up in xgl.c: make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jwpolley/fgfs/SimGear/simgear/timing' Making all in xgl make[3]: Entering directory `/home/jwpolley/fgfs/SimGear/simgear/xgl' if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
i uninstalled X11 but still can't run configure. john - Original Message - From: "Erik Hofman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FlightGear developers discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/sc

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Orthonormalize wrote: > >Are you sure you installed g++ ? > > oh yeah, i installed and reinstalled cygwin several times. > > >If you want to drop cygwin and use Visual Studio, I can help you with > >project files. > > can you send your .sln and .vcproj files? (me email is > [EMAIL PROTECTED])

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] viewer fix

2004-03-16 Thread Jim Wilson
This patch fixes missing parts of roll offset support. http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/rollfix.diff Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
>Are you sure you installed g++ ? oh yeah, i installed and reinstalled cygwin several times. >If you want to drop cygwin and use Visual Studio, I can help you with >project files. can you send your .sln and .vcproj files? (me email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]) thanks, john - Original Message --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem Under Cygwin

2004-03-16 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:25:16 -0600, Jonathan Polley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I deleted my cygwin installation and started from scratch (somehow, I had X installed previously). Unfortunately, even though I made sure that X11 was not installed, the problem didn't go away. plib builds just fi

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Orthonormalize wrote: > thanks fred! > > >Generally, people use g++ under Cygwin, or use the MS Visual Studio > >with MS compiler. > > i think i might be the first using cygwin/windows/.Net-Vc7 given my > troubles. > > anyway i've tried both g++ and Vc7 and have problems either way. I have suc

RE: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Bytheway
> > > > honestly have you ever tried building this thing from scratch? again i'm not > > trying to be harsh but the build process is really quite complicated and i > > haven't succeeded yet. > > You reported earlier problems with plib/ul.h, what did you do to get past > that and other earlier prob

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems building - multiplatform

2004-03-16 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:09:15 -0800 (PST) Alex Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Orthonormalize" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> honestly have you ever tried building this thing from scratch? Personally? Last week, on an AMD64 laptop that's running Debian's Sarge. The code downloaded and compiled from

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
thanks fred! >Generally, people use g++ under Cygwin, or use the MS Visual Studio >with MS compiler. i think i might be the first using cygwin/windows/.Net-Vc7 given my troubles. anyway i've tried both g++ and Vc7 and have problems either way. to Erik who suggested the problem is only visible w

[Flightgear-devel] Problems building - multiplatform

2004-03-16 Thread Alex Perry
Orthonormalize wrote: > -my solution: prebuild a few Lowest Common Denominator configurations > (say lynux,windows and mac) and then call it a day. A key advantage of FlightGear is that it _does_ support high end platforms. What's the point in having a simulator that only runs on low end syst

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Removing WeatherCM

2004-03-16 Thread Alex Perry
Orthonormalize wrote: > 2) there seems to be a lot of code that is in transition, like the > WeatherCM, Scripting modules. i was only able to compile after deleting > these. WeatherCM and the scripting code is working and has been stable for several years. I think it is wrong to suggest that powe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gcc problems

2004-03-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Orthonormalize wrote: either 1) rename test.c test.cpp or test.cxx so gcc will call g++ or 2) invoke g++ directly i.e. g++ test.c i was able to fix this by using g++ instead of gcc. ok fine that works i can now compile test.cpp. HOWEVER, the configure script still want to use gcc which has the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gcc problems

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
> either > 1) rename test.c test.cpp or test.cxx so gcc will call g++ > or > 2) invoke g++ directly i.e. g++ test.c i was able to fix this by using g++ instead of gcc. ok fine that works i can now compile test.cpp. HOWEVER, the configure script still want to use gcc which has the same problem

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Jim Wilson wrote: > Orthonormalize said: > > > now, that said, i've spent over a WEEK trying to build flightgear. only > > today (i pray) will i finish the task. > > > > here are my observations: > > > > 1) the autoconf/configure process is extremely fickle. in my opinion there > > are way too

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Orthonormalize wrote: i'm only saying lynux, windows and mac because those developers (like me) are probably less advanced than someone using say IRIX. if you're using an IRIX box then right there i know your smarter than me. just this morning i'm having trouble building Simgear. i'm using cygwin o

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
i'm only saying lynux, windows and mac because those developers (like me) are probably less advanced than someone using say IRIX. if you're using an IRIX box then right there i know your smarter than me. just this morning i'm having trouble building Simgear. i'm using cygwin on a windows xp machin

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Orthonormalize wrote: "FlightGear Codebase Weight Reduction Program, " i like it already. first of all, let me preface this by saying i LOVE flightgear. i think it's the best thing since sliced bread. also here's a little background: i'm a recently laid off software engineer (yes i too had me job

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Orthonormalize said: > now, that said, i've spent over a WEEK trying to build flightgear. only > today (i pray) will i finish the task. > > here are my observations: > > 1) the autoconf/configure process is extremely fickle. in my opinion there > are way too many "configurations" for flightgear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Guys I don't know if this helps in any way but I did a complete rebuild(plib,simgear,flightgear) about 7 days ago under Cygwin on windows 98 and did not have any problem so unless the above area has been changed in the last 7 days it is not simgear or cygwin that is to bl

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Guys I don't know if this helps in any way but I did a complete rebuild(plib,simgear,flightgear) about 7 days ago under Cygwin on windows 98 and did not have any problem so unless the above area has been changed in the last 7 days it is not simgear or cygwin that is to blame. Cheers Innis __

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Orthonormalize wrote: here are my observations: 1) the autoconf/configure process is extremely fickle. in my opinion there are way too many "configurations" for flightgear. the problem seems in trying to support every platform "out of the box", fightgear supports no platform. i know that sounds h

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
"FlightGear Codebase Weight Reduction Program, " i like it already. first of all, let me preface this by saying i LOVE flightgear. i think it's the best thing since sliced bread. also here's a little background: i'm a recently laid off software engineer (yes i too had me job outsourced to india)

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: I still submit that what I proposed is a 'proper' solution and don't understand what you have against it as it only affects MingW and Cygwin users. I'm not against it. I just want to know why this was needed because obviously the extensions code needs the same update then. Eri

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: > > Norman Vine wrote: > > > If it works then it is getting WIN32 predefined from someplace other > > then the compiler itself which will break a Cygwin compilation for > > GLX < X windows OpenGL > which is a separate issue > > > > AFAIK the *only* Windows compiler that does

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: I talked with Curt about removing WeatherCM over a year ago, but I didn't want to go through with it in case the module sprang back to life. In the event, it clearly causes a lot of confusion for users and still isn't functional, as far as I can tell. As part of the Flig

Re: Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: The WeatherCM module isn't actively maintained anymore. Try building with --without-weathercm I talked with Curt about removing WeatherCM over a year ago, but I didn't want to go through with it in case the module sprang back to life. In the event, it

Removing WeatherCM (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx)

2004-03-16 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman wrote: The WeatherCM module isn't actively maintained anymore. Try building with --without-weathercm I talked with Curt about removing WeatherCM over a year ago, but I didn't want to go through with it in case the module sprang back to life. In the event, it clearly causes a lot of

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: If it works then it is getting WIN32 predefined from someplace other then the compiler itself which will break a Cygwin compilation for GLX < X windows OpenGL > which is a separate issue AFAIK the *only* Windows compiler that does not #define WIN32 is Cygwin. This is in orde

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: > > Norman Vine wrote: > > > This is still wrong needs to be included *before* > > inorder for the the WINDOWS GL extensions and not the GLX extensions > > to be recognized > > How do you explain that the extensions code does work this way. If it works then it is getting W

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Orthonormalize wrote: i still see: #include in the file FGLocalWeatherDatabase.h . however i don't see the file fgfs.hxx anywhere in SimGear. The WeatherCM module isn't actively maintained anymore. Try building with --without-weathercm Erik ___ Flight

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Visualising forces

2004-03-16 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: > > Norman Vine said: > > > Jim Wilson writes: > > > > > > > Oops...that is a bug. The interface is there, at least partly...something is > > > missing though. I think with the mouse and keyboard manipulation we're only > > > using two of the axes which might explain why th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx

2004-03-16 Thread Orthonormalize
i still see: #include in the file FGLocalWeatherDatabase.h . however i don't see the file fgfs.hxx anywhere in SimGear. i'm building FlightGear-0.9.3 which i just got from the website (not cvs). john - Original Message - From: "Erik Hofman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FlightGear develo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Visualising forces

2004-03-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine said: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > > Oops...that is a bug. The interface is there, at least partly...something is > > missing though. I think with the mouse and keyboard manipulation we're only > > using two of the axes which might explain why that one snuck by. > > IIRC viewer 'rol

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: This is still wrong needs to be included *before* inorder for the the WINDOWS GL extensions and not the GLX extensions to be recognized How do you explain that the extensions code does work this way. Did you read the code or just the CVS log message? Erik

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine wrote: > > so something like > > #if defined(__CYGWIN__) # && !defined(USING_X) > #define WIN32 > #endif > > #if defined(WIN32) # MINGW and MSC predefine WIN32 > # include > #endif > > HTH Arrgh ... of course I meant something like #if defined(__CYGWIN__) /* && !defined(USING_X

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3dglut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: > > Frederic BOUVIER wrote: > > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > >>Modified Files: > >>glut_shapes.c glut_shapes.h > >>Log Message: > >>Further refinement of the Cygwin problem as suggested by Frederic. > > > > > > Well, I had the impression that the code was originally good but th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d glut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic BOUVIER wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: glut_shapes.c glut_shapes.h Log Message: Further refinement of the Cygwin problem as suggested by Frederic. Well, I had the impression that the code was originally good but the configure step was failing to detect and set HAVE_WINDOWS_

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d glut_shapes.c, 1.1, 1.2 glut_shapes.h, 1.2, 1.3

2004-03-16 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Erik Hofman wrote: > > Modified Files: > glut_shapes.c glut_shapes.h > Log Message: > Further refinement of the Cygwin problem as suggested by Frederic. Well, I had the impression that the code was originally good but the configure step was failing to detect and set HAVE_WINDOWS_H That's why

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d glut_shapes.h, 1.1, 1.2

2004-03-16 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Erik Hofman wrote: > A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Copie à : > Objet : [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d glut_shapes.h, > 1.1, 1.2 > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/scene/sky/clouds3d > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14020 > > Modified Files: > glut_shapes.h >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem Under Cygwin

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Luff wrote: On 3/15/04 at 8:41 PM Jonathan Polley wrote: I just tried to build FlightGear under Cygwin. When I build, I get the following: In file included from glut_shapes.c:59: /usr/include/w32api/GL/glu.h:230: error: syntax error before '*' token In file included from glut_shapes.c:61:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem Under Cygwin

2004-03-16 Thread David Luff
On 3/15/04 at 8:41 PM Jonathan Polley wrote: >I just tried to build FlightGear under Cygwin. When I build, I get the >following: > >In file included from glut_shapes.c:59: >/usr/include/w32api/GL/glu.h:230: error: syntax error before '*' token >In file included from glut_shapes.c:61: >glut_shap

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/UIUCModel uiuc_auto_pilot.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_auto_pilot.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_hh_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.cpp, NONE, 1.1 uiuc_rah_ap.h, NONE, 1.1 Makefile.am, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_aerodeflections.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_aircraft.h, 1.9, 1.10 uiuc_alh_ap.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_alh_ap.h, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_coef_lift.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_coefficients.cpp, 1.6, 1.7 uiuc_coefficients.h, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_icing_demo.cpp, 1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_controlSurface.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_init.cpp, 1.4, 1.5 uiuc_map_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record1.cpp, 1.1.1.1, 1.2 uiuc_map_record3.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_map_record5.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_map_record6.cpp, 1.3, 1.4 uiuc_menu_CL.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_controlSurface.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_ice.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_init.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_menu_misc.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_pah_ap.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 uiuc_recorder.cpp, 1.8, 1.9 uiuc_wrapper.cpp, 1.12, 1.13

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/FDM/UIUCModel In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19850/UIUCModel Hehe, just when you thought it was a while back you heard from the UIUC developers someone comes running out of their shelter just to throw a bunch of new code at you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs.cxx

2004-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Orthonormalize wrote: i assume fgfs.cxx fgfs.hxx get created by the configure script as i don't see them in the Main directory. since i can't get configure to work, is there anyway someone who is using .NET/Vc7 can send me these files? These files where moved to SimGear a while ago and shou