Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:45:16 -0800 (PST), Jim Brennan jjb - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the 747-400 Va (Design maneuvering speed) is 330 kts at sl, 334 at 10k, 358/.92mach at 29,000 ..so yanking the stick into your gut for a snap roll at 330kts, means no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Cruising in the 747-yasim at 18,000' (altitude holding me steady) and with throttle adjusted so I'm stable at 490 kts, I'm seeing a -3 degree pitch down (/orientation/pitch-deg) This looks odd from an external view standpoint. It seems like we'd want a slight amount

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread Tony Peden
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 15:12, Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Cruising in the 747-yasim at 18,000' (altitude holding me steady) and with throttle adjusted so I'm stable at 490 kts, I'm seeing a -3 degree pitch down (/orientation/pitch-deg) This looks odd from an external view

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Cruising in the 747-yasim at 18,000' (altitude holding me steady) and with throttle adjusted so I'm stable at 490 kts, I'm seeing a -3 degree pitch down (/orientation/pitch-deg) Wasn't sure but it sounds like you are using the autopilot's alitutde

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: FYI: 490 KIAS is way too fast for most big jets under *any* circumstances. Yes, there is a similar problem at mach 0.8 ~ 0.85 as well though. And IIRC at altitude as well. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread Jim Brennan jjb -
For the 747-400 Va (Design maneuvering speed) is 330 kts at sl, 334 at 10k, 358/.92mach at 29,000 Vmo is 365 at sl, 316 at 35,000 On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Jim Wilson wrote: Tony Peden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: FYI: 490 KIAS is way too fast for most big jets under *any* circumstances.

re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: Cruising in the 747-yasim at 18,000' (altitude holding me steady) and with throttle adjusted so I'm stable at 490 kts, I'm seeing a -3 degree pitch down (/orientation/pitch-deg) From what I can find, the 747 is supposed to be able to cruise at around 490 KTAS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: So basically, you have the plane in an unusual flight environment. Real planes are almost never flying this fast at this altitude; they'll be at ~300 KIAS or so and using the extra available thrust for climbing. Counter-example: a few years ago, I flew from Ottawa to

re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 question

2002-11-11 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson writes: If you're trying to fly at 490kt *indicated* at FL180, then you're pushing something like 666kt true -- it would be no surprise that you'd have to push the nose down and abuse the engines to maintain that. You also have to allow for compressibility effects in