Re: [Flightgear-devel] ogeL won't run under 098a

2006-01-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi Dene, that's easy to fix. get into the directory where you put ogeL, For fg 0.9.9 and before: edit ogel-jsbsim.xml change line 1 from to For fg current CVS: edit ogel-jsbsim-2.0.xml change line27 from Hi downloaded ogeL and installed... came up in with FGrun wizard (nice > looking) but

[Flightgear-devel] ogeL won't run under 098a

2006-01-13 Thread dene maxwell
Hi downloaded ogeL and installed... came up in with FGrun wizard (nice looking) but crashes FG with following DOS Box error message; This aircraft model is an ALPHA release!!! This aircraft model may not even properly load, and probably will not fly as expected. Use this model for developmen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread dene maxwell
From: "Ampere K. Hardraade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On January 13, 2006 07:21 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: > How do you plan to make sure the airport layout is rotated and positioned > accurately so that things like ILS equipment isn't off to one side or at > the wrong angle to runways? > If you're 10

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 13, 2006 07:21 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: > How do you plan to make sure the airport layout is rotated and positioned > accurately so that things like ILS equipment isn't off to one side or at > the wrong angle to runways? > If you're 10 meters off you're not going to be landing on the cent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 14 January 2006 01:47, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > On January 13, 2006 06:03 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Can you get a plausible airport boundary out of this process?  I can't > > remember if that is displayed on the charts ... > > > > Curt. > > No, at least not on those FAA diagram

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Graphics Engine

2006-01-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 13, 2006 07:05 pm, 916 wrote: > Ok, I understand, if you need help to modify also the plib library and > update them, I can give you my help to do this, contact me directly > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, there is nothing to prevent one from doing some investigation, documenting the curren

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Graphics Engine

2006-01-13 Thread 916
Ok, I understand, if you need help to modify also the plib library and update them, I can give you my help to do this, contact me directly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curtis L. Olson ha scritto: 916 wrote: (Sorry for my english ) Hi, I am a programmer, i want to contribute to improve the flight gear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 13, 2006 06:47 pm, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > > Can you get a plausible airport boundary out of this process?  I can't > > remember if that is displayed on the charts ... > > > > Curt. > > No, at least not on those FAA diagrams. Well, not automatically, but we could manually define a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 13, 2006 06:03 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Can you get a plausible airport boundary out of this process?  I can't > remember if that is displayed on the charts ... > > Curt. No, at least not on those FAA diagrams. Would it be possible to literally paint the airport over the terrain?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 13, 2006 01:25 pm, Steve Knoblock wrote: This is a good development. I like working with SVG and my Firefox 1.5 browser can natively display the SVG images Ampere posted. The images can be worked with in Inkscape if necessary, which is a truly excellent

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] issue with configure finding specified copy of simgear

2006-01-13 Thread Jim Wilson
This patch builds a configure script that will check in the proper location for simgear headers if a "with-simgear" prefix is specified. Without this patch jpegfactory support is not recognized in FlightGear when the simgear libraries are in a non-standard location. Also, in the case of develo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 13, 2006 01:25 pm, Steve Knoblock wrote: > This is a good development. I like working with SVG and my Firefox 1.5 > browser can natively display the SVG images Ampere posted. The images > can be worked with in Inkscape if necessary, which is a truly > excellent and easy to use editor for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autoconf and FG_JPEG_SERVER

2006-01-13 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: Jim Wilson > > It looks like I've run into a problem with FG_JPEG_SERVER getting set in > config.h now. Or possibly something has change to make > this a problem. Simgear is built without it, the header file for Simgear's > jpegfactory isn't being installed, but the flag in > FlightGea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Will my updates be used/useful?

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
dene maxwell wrote : > >> dene maxwell wrote : >> > More to the point... Fred, is there any more I can do to help >> >> Test the current version and give feedback >> >> -Fred >> > I only run the win32 version. I am not aware of any way I can run the > version currently under development in the CVS

[Flightgear-devel] Autoconf and FG_JPEG_SERVER

2006-01-13 Thread Jim Wilson
It looks like I've run into a problem with FG_JPEG_SERVER getting set in config.h now. Or possibly something has change to make this a problem. Simgear is built without it, the header file for Simgear's jpegfactory isn't being installed, but the flag in FlightGear is being (I think erroneously

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Friday 13 January 2006 20:25, Steve Knoblock wrote: > I would be happy to have accurate sized and located buildings, even if > they are unattractive in appearance without their textures. The visual > improvement we could see is a very exciting prospect. I really don't see why the buildings can'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Will my updates be used/useful?

2006-01-13 Thread dene maxwell
dene maxwell wrote : > More to the point... Fred, is there any more I can do to help Test the current version and give feedback -Fred I only run the win32 version. I am not aware of any way I can run the version currently under development in the CVS (excuse the tense, I only have a very ba

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Steve Knoblock
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:06:39 -0800, you wrote: >Since my last post, I have found what I think is a better method at extracting >taxiways data from an airport diagram. Instead of converting the file to >DXF, I have converted it to SVG. Since SVG is in XML format, I was able to >do some greppin

[Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Ima Sudonim
After checking out flightgear from cvs, running 'make clean' in the JSBsim directory and then running 'make' in the flightgear directory, flightgear builds and runs on mac os x. There were NO build breaks. Thanks very much Fred and everyone else that helped! Best regards, Ima

[Flightgear-devel] Re: All praise lego

2006-01-13 Thread Steve Knoblock
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:37:05 -0800, you wrote: >I just got a e-mail from LEGO saying that they grant permission to publish the >3d-model to be used in FlightGear as I requested. Wonderful. A very encouraging response from a corporation. Steve

[Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Ima Sudonim
after removing filtersjb from src/main/makefile.am, rming the filtersjb directory, doing a make clean of flightgear and rebuilding flightgear with autotools, configure, make, I get a new error: Making all in Main g++ -DPKGLIBDIR=\"/src/fgdev9.9/share/FlightGear\" -g -O2 - D_REENTRANT -L/src

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure.ac: missing setting CFLAGS to simgear location

2006-01-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Tobias Nielsen wrote: Hi, ive being trying to compile the fligthgear - but with simgear only compiled in my own homedir (~/SimGear) - that is not installed. when im running ./configure --with-simgear=/home/tobibobi/SimGear, it seems to ignore the argument. ive tried to solve the issues by addi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Can't disable ATC chatter

2006-01-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: It seems that the nasal script is always running even if the sounds are not played. The sounds are only played when the checkbox is checked. I do need to revisit that, right not the script is still in 'debugging' mode. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flig

[Flightgear-devel] configure.ac: missing setting CFLAGS to simgear location

2006-01-13 Thread Tobias Nielsen
Hi, ive being trying to compile the fligthgear - but with simgear only compiled in my own homedir (~/SimGear) - that is not installed. when im running ./configure --with-simgear=/home/tobibobi/SimGear, it seems to ignore the argument. ive tried to solve the issues by adding $with_simgear to CFLAG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 13 January 2006 15:56, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > I tested with the default aircraft and the A320, and they work for me, > both on windows and Linux. > I have a strange thing though : rudder, aileron, elevator and flaps > animations are broken. gear is ok as well as turbine spin and cockpi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott a écrit : > Georg Vollnhals wrote: > > >> I also have the newest CVS "data" (with the lot of changes) but when I >> try to select a JSB aircraft FlightGear crashes to desktop. >> Only exception is the PC7 which I also believe to be JSB sim. >> > > Thanks for avoigind acronyms

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Can't disable ATC chatter

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott a écrit : > Hello, > I like to avoid FG playing random ATC chat. To I set > '--prop:/sim/sound/atc-chatter=false'. When I look at the menu > > File -> Sound Configuration > > the check box for ATC chatter is disabled. Still I get debug messages > in my command window indicating, that

[Flightgear-devel] Can't disable ATC chatter

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I like to avoid FG playing random ATC chat. To I set '--prop:/sim/sound/atc-chatter=false'. When I look at the menu File -> Sound Configuration the check box for ATC chatter is disabled. Still I get debug messages in my command window indicating, that playing these sound files actually ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
Georg Vollnhals wrote: > I also have the newest CVS "data" (with the lot of changes) but when I > try to select a JSB aircraft FlightGear crashes to desktop. > Only exception is the PC7 which I also believe to be JSB sim. Thanks for avoigind acronyms ;-) I get the same effect even with the PC7,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Thank you both, Martin and Fred! After your help and a "make clean" the newest CVS now compiles and FG runs. I also have the newest CVS "data" (with the lot of changes) but when I try to select a JSB aircraft FlightGear crashes to desktop. Only exception is the PC7 which I also believe to be J

[Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Ima Sudonim
Fred, sorry for not answering your questions. I am having trouble getting messages to the flightgear-devel list to appear in a timely fashion when viewed on sourceforge via web interface, and missed your message (I am using digest mode). I did remove the filtersjb directory (rm -rf fgdev9

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread Stefan Seifert
Jon S. Berndt wrote: Note that I'm still not sure how this is going to work with carrier landings. The zero velocity code may get bypassed, since a carrier is normally not at zero speed. I can't remember if I accounted for that or not. Probably an easy fix, anyhow. What I don't understand ab

[Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Ima Sudonim
I think that the following line from src/FlightGear/src/main/makefile.am needs to be removed according to the information at jsbsim.sourceforge.net/FlightGearNewJSBSim.pdf>: $(top_builddir)/src/FDM/JSBSim/libJSBSim.a \ This does NOT, however, fix my problem but might be part of the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> Although my testing so far has been limited to a few quick > flights in the PC7, > I must comment on the huge improvement in gear behaviour at or near > standstill - previously I've seen the pc7 flip right over at rest > from gear > jitter but it looks great now, thanks for working on that. Than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
Georg Vollnhals wrote: > ../../src/FDM/JSBSim/filtersjb/libfiltersjb.a', needed by `fgfs' Simply remove the 'libfiltersjsb' dependency in Flightgear/src/Main/Makefile* and you'll get a working binary, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 13 January 2006 13:11, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > As has been mentioned, the new JSBSim code has/is being moved over to > FlightGear. It is JSBSim v0.9.10 code, using JSBSim config file > specification v2.0. Although my testing so far has been limited to a few quick flights in the PC7, I mu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jon S. Berndt wrote : > The filtersjb/ directory is no longer needed. It should be eliminated. > done in CVS -Fred --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Georg Vollnhals a écrit : > Frederic Bouvier schrieb: >> Georg Vollnhals wrote : >> >>> Ima Sudonim schrieb: >>> There is a build break on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs. I removed the entire jsbsim directory in fdm and checked out a new jsbsim sourc

[Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > Are these files no longer necessary? If not, do they belong in cvs or > do I need to get them from elsewhere? Is this just a temporary effect > of all the jsbsim changes (maybe all changes aren't in yet?) > > Thank you > > Ima I think the directory and file structure in FlightGear might be in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Frederic Bouvier schrieb: Georg Vollnhals wrote : Ima Sudonim schrieb: There is a build break on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs. I removed the entire jsbsim directory in fdm and checked out a new jsbsim sourcetree from cvs: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: >>> Making install in Main >>> make[3]: *** No rule to make target >>> `../../src/FDM/JSBSim/filtersjb/libfiltersjb.a', needed by `fgfs'. >> same problem here (Cygwin, latest FlightGear CVS). Did a complete new >> download of all source files but the error is still there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft - have fun!

2006-01-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi, I have just put a new version of ogel to http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/ and there are now two versions available: one is for FG v 0.9.9 and before using the old JSBSim Code and one is for current FG CVS with new JSBSim with the 2.x config-files. Also, I put into the XML files the GPL header and t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Georg Vollnhals wrote : > Ima Sudonim schrieb: >> There is a build break on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest >> FlightGear cvs. >> >> I removed the entire jsbsim directory in fdm and checked out a new >> jsbsim sourcetree from cvs: >> >> cvs -z3 >> -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/FlightGear-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Ima Sudonim schrieb: There is a build break on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs. I removed the entire jsbsim directory in fdm and checked out a new jsbsim sourcetree from cvs: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9 co FlightGear then ran make, and ran

[Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim code

2006-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
As has been mentioned, the new JSBSim code has/is being moved over to FlightGear. It is JSBSim v0.9.10 code, using JSBSim config file specification v2.0. Until I get time to write some proper release notes, please see the most recent three or four JSBSim newsletters ("Back of the Envelope") on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Graphics Engine

2006-01-13 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Friday 13 January 2006 11:38, 916 wrote: > introduction to shaders, advanced animation features , are you > interested in this way ? I'll leave the developers to answer the rest, but we actually already make use of shaders for one or two animations. Which reminds me of something I wanted to a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Will my updates be used/useful?

2006-01-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
dene maxwell wrote : > More to the point... Fred, is there any more I can do to help apart > from stop bugging you? ;-) (no reply necessary ). Test the current version and give feedback -Fred --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc

[Flightgear-devel] build break (can't build libfiltersjb.a) on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs

2006-01-13 Thread Ima Sudonim
There is a build break on mac os x (10.4.4) with the latest FlightGear cvs. I removed the entire jsbsim directory in fdm and checked out a new jsbsim sourcetree from cvs: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/ FlightGear-0.9 co FlightGear then ran make, and ran into a problem: M

[Flightgear-devel] Graphics Engine

2006-01-13 Thread 916
(Sorry for my english ) Hi, I am a programmer, i want to contribute to improve the flight gear graphics engine, The ssg.. Call should be replaced, with others with graphical improvements, light bump mapping, introduction to shaders, advanced animation features , are you interested in this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel digest, Vol 1 #429 - 18 msgs

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 syd & sandy schrieb: > >> 4. File name problem in CVS (Christian Mayer) >> >> > Hi... you can safetly delete Bravo.ac it is currently being > overhauled so there will be a lot more errors / mistakes happening . ;) I don't have a choice, my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A little experiment with KSFO

2006-01-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: To import the data into FG, we could create some sort of converter to convert the SVG file into 3D geometries usable in FG. Or add our own SVG loader for plib. I believe there is a way to tie or own loaders into plib (using a callback function or something similar).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATC

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
"Vivian Meazza" wrote: > I have today sent a bug fix to Erik for some outstanding problems with the > multiplayer implementation, but which also includes extrapolation of the > client position using 1st and 2nd derivatives. Now, I'm thrilled to hear that, this is definitely the right (TM) directi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Will my updates be used/useful?

2006-01-13 Thread dene maxwell
Thanks Martin, I do have two tiles that are almost done. I have just managed to "aquire" free topographical maps for the areas concerned and am working on modelling the significant features visible from the air (along the approach vector). I had anticipated a completion date of the new year, lu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Will my updates be used/useful?

2006-01-13 Thread Martin Spott
"dene maxwell" wrote: > Great, that sounds a good way of doing it. If any one is very keen to try > the new scenery before the official release we can make off-line > arrangements to distribute it and I can tag it with "alpha test" status then > when the official release comes out everyone will