Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear website on wiki

Hi, I think having the wiki as default page for the project makes a lot of sense, there is way more information on the Wiki at this point, and it's pretty well organized. Of course, a few key pages would need to be locked-down (or maybe not, I'm an optimist !!). And dynamic pages like the aircraf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Hi Chris I would let it go mate.While I feel no better about people making money off my work I also feel that it is pretty much or own fault. The only way you are going to stop this guy is to make it a pain in the arse for him. Until we are prepared to fight fire with fire by releasing our o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Another avenue I have considered is a New Zealand consumer affairs program named "Fair Go". This TV show has an excellent track record of exposing scammers, and sticking up for those who are being shafted by scammers. The format is a group of presenters who research claims of unfair treatment,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:11 PM, James Turner wrote: > My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to watch the > Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the moment, though we can > allow other users to manually kick off builds, if you ask Gene nicely. > How do you g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On 12 Nov 2010, at 21:54, Curtis Olson wrote: > I'm pushing a different fix which follows previous precedence already used in > the setBlocking() function later in this same source file. Apologize if I > break things again. Curt, could you create a flightgear-builds mailing-list, and Gene/mys

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

I'm pushing a different fix which follows previous precedence already used in the setBlocking() function later in this same source file. Apologize if I break things again. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > >> > Thanks Fred! We

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: >> > Thanks Fred! We're back to a green board. :D > > Would you mind restarting a linux build, just in case ? > Will do! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

> > Thanks Fred! We're back to a green board. :D Would you mind restarting a linux build, just in case ? -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Frederic Bouvier wrote: - "Gene Buckle" a écrit : On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > Are you able to test local changes? What would happen if you changed line > #203 of simgear/io/raw_socket.cxx to: > >setsockopt( handle, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

- "Gene Buckle" a écrit : > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > > > Are you able to test local changes? What would happen if you > changed line > > #203 of simgear/io/raw_socket.cxx to: > > > >setsockopt( handle, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, > >(void *)&opt_boolean,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > Are you able to test local changes? What would happen if you changed line > #203 of simgear/io/raw_socket.cxx to: > >setsockopt( handle, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, >(void *)&opt_boolean, sizeof(opt_boolean) ); > > In other words, inser

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > Are you able to test local changes? What would happen if you changed line > #203 of simgear/io/raw_socket.cxx to: > >setsockopt( handle, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, >(void *)&opt_boolean, sizeof(opt_boolean) ); > > In other words, inser

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

Are you able to test local changes? What would happen if you changed line #203 of simgear/io/raw_socket.cxx to: setsockopt( handle, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, (void *)&opt_boolean, sizeof(opt_boolean) ); In other words, insert (void *) in front of &opt_boolean Does that clean

[Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

?> Also, not sure if this was already mentioned. The person isn't only > selling FG. He does the same with a lot of other GPLed software. > Again, Google shows many similar sites - all with the same contact > address in NZ. And I guess we'd find even more if we looked closer. > Certainly looks like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

From: James Turner - 2010-11-12 13:37 > Just to re-iterate - the best defence is a good offence. Stop worrying about > FPS, and make FG > better (by contributing), or promoting it better. It's essentially a > marketing scam, not a competing > product. (The current flightgear.org website doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

?>> I despair that everyone seems to be saying this guy's operation is fully >> legal, [...] > > This might be your feeling, but does not properly reflect what's been > written on this very list. If you're approaching legal affairs with > assumptions _that_ vague and imprecise as the above 'summary

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and compiler options - or maybe something else

From: - 2010-11-12 10:13 > I still have no real understanding why this is so, or why loading a large > number of *identical* models into the scenery should take a long time (I > would think that one can make use of the fact that there are really > multiple copies of the same model around to speed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

"Mally" wrote: > I despair that everyone seems to be saying this guy's operation is fully > legal, [...] This might be your feeling, but does not properly reflect what's been written on this very list. If you're approaching legal affairs with assumptions _that_ vague and imprecise as the above '

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

John wrote > > For the love of... > > Whatever your opinion on the legality of what they are doing, this is > indeed a problem and reflects negatively on the community. > > Ignoring it will not make it go away. We need to know what we can do. > > Please, please, someone with a copyright intere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

?John, I fully agree. I despair that everyone seems to be saying this guy's operation is fully legal, almost like it's more convenient to assume that than to fight it. I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that the GPL wording on the allowable scope of commercial activity is very clear, and this gu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Hi John, "J. Holden" wrote: > Whatever your opinion on the legality of what they are doing, this is > indeed a problem and reflects negatively on the community. > > Ignoring it will not make it go away. We need to know what we can do. I don't think we're ignoring the 'issue'. But we probably sh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Hi John, We have been down this road before. Here is a reply from the FSF: *From: Donald R Robertson III via RT [mailto:licens...@fsf.org]* *Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:47 PM* * * *Hello,* * * *Thank you for your interest. This link:* *http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

For the love of... Whatever your opinion on the legality of what they are doing, this is indeed a problem and reflects negatively on the community. Ignoring it will not make it go away. We need to know what we can do. Please, please, someone with a copyright interest in the software please con

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

> > FPS is a nuisance, indeed, but boycotting "The FlightGear Project" just > as a means to hurt FPS doesn't buy us anything, I'd say. If we really > aim at doing anything wrt. FPS, then we'd probably better care about > getting our desolate "PR department" into better shape > This is the key

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

"Mally" wrote: > Relicensing seems to be a good idea if the present license (or it's > potential to be misinterpreted) is resulting in unhappiness for the > contributors, or worse still, affecting the growth and development of FG, as > seems to be the case currently. I think the latter stateme

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

On 12 Nov 2010, at 13:17, Martin Spott wrote: > FPS is a nuisance, indeed, but boycotting "The FlightGear Project" just > as a means to hurt FPS doesn't buy us anything, I'd say. If we really > aim at doing anything wrt. FPS, then we'd probably better care about > getting our desolate "PR departm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

> Failing a positive outcome there I support a re-licensing of the software, to > prevent this kind of thing. Simple as that. Relicensing could kill at one fell swoop the following statement: "Purchase FlightProSim now and you will always receive 100% FREE Updates / Upgrades.Imagine playing th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Chris Wilkinson wrote: > Frankly this guy is a big part of the reason I have yet to commit my scenery > and > aircraft to the community. I do NOT want someone making money from my efforts > without either my consent or without some form of input to the community as a > condition of being allow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Chris Wilkinson wrote: > My goal will be open dialog as to why this guy seems unwilling to honor the > exacting word of the GPL, and why he isn't giving back to the community. > Probably done over coffee. I'll probably smile. And my solemn promise is > that I wont

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Mally wrote: > ?Hi Chris > > I have reservations about this. It could easily backfire on you personally > or turn out to be a traumatic event, particularly if it turns out to be > more > of a confrontation than a reasonable discussion. What are the odds of the >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

BTW, it might interest you to know that "Charlie Taylor", the name of the guy behind Flight Sim Pro, is an alias. For those who know their aviation history Charles E Taylor was the "3rd Wright Brother". He was the mechanic who kept the Wright Flyer in sound condition, Without him the flyer may n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

Confrontation? Don't be silly! This guy is a businessman, a shrewd capitalist at worst - these kind of guys don't make their money being brutal in peoples faces, they sneak around quietly like mice, (almost) unknowingly profiting off the hard work of others. Risk in meeting an unknown person?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

?Hi Chris I have reservations about this. It could easily backfire on you personally or turn out to be a traumatic event, particularly if it turns out to be more of a confrontation than a reasonable discussion. What are the odds of the latter do you think? I think the same could be achieved (a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

?> There are other grounds we may be able to sue on besides GPL, though, such as false advertising! Only a lawyer can help us figure out what is going wrong here. Please look at http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ to see if anyone there can help us Absolutely, re the advertising. My main concern ab

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and compiler options - or maybe something else

With regard to the speed of loading models from Nasal into the scenery I was writing about a while ago, I have made some discovery yesterday. I was testing a setup in 2.0.0 with some heavy numerics running on the second CPU, and this pushed the behaviour of the framerate into the behaviour I was