Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Memories, heres an old article on we we were doing in the F28s and airfield surveys, whilst off topic, it may be of interest. http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Flying%20Unit%20navaid%20cal%20article%201990.htm Item 8 -- (8) good low speed handling and go-around performance from very low altitude;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:29:27 +0100, Erik wrote in message <1298230167.1769.4.camel@Raptor>: > On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 12:46 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: > > > > This is very true. I've not explored the parameters of the 777 in > > FG, but if you fly the MD-81 with no passengers, 1200 lbs of fuel > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 12:46 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: > > This is very true. I've not explored the parameters of the 777 in FG, > but if you fly the MD-81 with no passengers, 1200 lbs of fuel and crew > weight, it is extremely different than flying with standard fuel load > and passengers. Enoug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Peter Brown
On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Harry Campigli wrote: > Two things cross my mind, whilst I know the designers strive to model the > true aerodynamics in the fdm. > > 1- how many fly these sims on realistic hardware? Would many even go as far > as a set of imitation yoke and pedals? > > 2- I ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread ThorstenB
On 20.02.2011 17:27, Michael Sgier wrote: let me know if anyone can buy it and show the source. I really was surprisedi never would have given this guy such programming knowledge. In fact i'd want to look at that but am currently stuck at native c++ glut via Android's NDK. Probably it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread Michael Sgier
yes i saw this: >> This site offered the "FlightGear" (ProFl*Sim) package for Android until >> a few hours ago: >> http://de.appbrain.com/app/flightgear/com.flightgear Still this is online:http://de.appbrain.com/app/flight-gear/com.perfectflight let me know if anyone can buy it and show the sourc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Two things cross my mind, whilst I know the designers strive to model the true aerodynamics in the fdm. 1- how many fly these sims on realistic hardware? Would many even go as far as a set of imitation yoke and pedals? 2- I have spent some time in F28s set up for airport navaid calibration surve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread ThorstenB
On 20.02.2011 16:18, George Patterson wrote: >> This site offered the "FlightGear" (ProFl*Sim) package for Android until >> a few hours ago: >> http://de.appbrain.com/app/flightgear/com.flightgear > Anything like this one? > > http://www.appbrain.com/app/alni-flightgear-control/org.alni.android.fgf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread Curtis Olson
Comment at the end of the cached page: "pure waste of a buck, just brought me to their web page." Curt. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:13 AM, ThorstenB wrote: > On 20.02.2011 15:40, Curtis Olson wrote: > > I know there is one android/flightgear app that serves as a remote > > control for flying Flig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread George Patterson
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:13 AM, ThorstenB wrote: > On 20.02.2011 15:40, Curtis Olson wrote: >> I know there is one android/flightgear app that serves as a remote >> control for flying FlightGear via your android phone--perhaps that is >> what you found?  It uses the network interface which provid

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread ThorstenB
On 20.02.2011 15:40, Curtis Olson wrote: > I know there is one android/flightgear app that serves as a remote > control for flying FlightGear via your android phone--perhaps that is > what you found? It uses the network interface which provides good > separation of application licensing. Yes &

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Fred In the first line of the NEWS file from that I assume the version number as I did not see it to refered to elsewhere. Harry On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Harry, > > - "Harry Campigli" a écrit : > > So totally disregarding yesterday, today starting fr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Fred, Csaba Thank you both very much for the assitance. First I installed gettext, it still failed to compile, then I added --with-fltk=/usr/lib to my configure line and it built with just one warning. that being for info : g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/usr/lib/include -I/include/ -DLOCALEDIR=

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread Curtis Olson
I know there is one android/flightgear app that serves as a remote control for flying FlightGear via your android phone--perhaps that is what you found? It uses the network interface which provides good separation of application licensing. Also, I've never got source code for any app I've install

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Harry, - "Harry Campigli" a écrit : > So totally disregarding yesterday, today starting fresh I have tried 2 wiki > download links for fgrun, and the Brisca script, all return with svn 621 > which seems to be 1.5.2. Could you tell me where did you found 1.5.2 ? configure.ac has 1.5.3 sin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Harry Campigli > wrote: > > > > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/fgrun/fgrun/po' > > rm -f fr.gmo && : -c --statistics -o fr.gmo fr.po > > > > Do I need to install more than just fluid ? > > Try installing gettext package as well. The configure scrip

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Harry Campigli wrote: > > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/fgrun/fgrun/po' > rm -f fr.gmo && : -c --statistics -o fr.gmo fr.po > > Do I need to install more than just fluid ? Try installing gettext package as well. The configure script seems to be brok

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM, syd adams wrote: > Like we couldn't see this coming ;) > > As for the 777 , unrealistic according to who ? I'm not against > changing it as one of the default aircraft , there are a lot of other > great choices now , but I do get annoyed with these claims b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread syd adams
Like we couldn't see this coming ;) As for the 777 , unrealistic according to who ? I'm not against changing it as one of the default aircraft , there are a lot of other great choices now , but I do get annoyed with these claims by armchair pilots who read it somewhere or saw it on youtube..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..another nice promising bird in git: se5 :o)

2011-02-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:24:10 -, Vivian wrote in message : > Arnt Karlsen wrote > > > > Hi, > > > > ..it's a sweet wee pussycat as far as handling goes, also on > > roll-out, where it appears to _try_ carry the full weight of its > > shadow: ;o) > > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthin

[Flightgear-devel] fgfs on Android source request

2011-02-20 Thread Michael Sgier
googling for: android flightgear i got something on: appBrain any android user pls buy and post the source. It's only my technical interest but if we don't get the sources we can sue... -- The ultimate all-in-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGrun compile problem against v.2.2 git

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Fred, Ok I cant figure it, I had quite a few goes at compiling it yesterday and deleted them all as I went. but the one in question most likely was an old version. Somethings got mixed up along the way. So totally disregarding yesterday, today starting fresh I have tried 2 wiki download links f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > Hi, >      Perhaps some of you have noticed, > that some of the aircraft that  > come with the standard flightgear package should be > changed. > > A few examples, we could have a more realistic commercial > jet than the  > 777-200(the FDM is terribly unrealistic), we could have a > bett

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..another nice promising bird in git: se5 :o)

2011-02-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Arnt Karlsen wrote > Hi, > > ..it's a sweet wee pussycat as far as handling goes, also on roll-out, > where it appears to _try_ carry the full weight of its shadow: ;o) > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/smoke-sheen/fgfs- > screen-001.png > > ..the sim brakes are ok in KSF

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Oliver Fels
>we could have a better  > modeled helicopter than the BO-105 I am wondering what makes you feel the Bo105 is not as realistic as others. It has one of the most sophisticated helicopter FDMs in FlightGear which has been approved by real pilots. Almost every other FDM is based on guessing more

[Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Jack Mermod
Hi, Perhaps some of you have noticed, that some of the aircraft that come with the standard flightgear package should be changed. A few examples, we could have a more realistic commercial jet than the 777-200(the FDM is terribly unrealistic), we could have a better modeled helicopter th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..another nice promising bird in git: se5 :o)

2011-02-20 Thread Alexander Barrett
Looks lovely, will give her a go later. Alex On 19 Feb 2011, at 19:24, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Hi, > > ..it's a sweet wee pussycat as far as handling goes, also on roll-out, > where it appears to _try_ carry the full weight of its shadow: ;o) > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/m