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From: Georg Birkner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: Thomas Kinkade and Peter Max
Date: Thu, Jan 23, 2003, 9:56 AM
did you ever wonder why Thomas Kinkade is the most famous artist in America
today?
and does Yoko Ono wonder how ironic
In a message dated 1/23/03 4:29:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I met Peter Max a couple of times when I was a picture framer. He's got a
very large mustache and a very tiny brain. This made him open to suggestion
and I was thus able to talk him into several pricey frame jobs.
Also, if I
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 07:28 PM, meryl wrote:
Also, if I were a Mod with an octopus hat would it be an octoporkpie?
A porkuoctopi
please remove. thank you
How about this:
gather the addresses of the possible participants, manipulate the first
card, play with the deck and then send the whole deck to the next
player/artist. He/she will then have 1 week to manipulate the second card
and play with the deck. Then send it on, etc. etc. You might also
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aw, Jennifer... ok, out of curiosity, please provide one
instance when art historical scholarship has served human
freedom in important ways by shedding light on the false
assumptions and claims that are sometimes used to support
oppressive institutions.
/:b
In a message dated 1/9/03 2:02:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Danke schön, liebe verruckte Hund
Sie auch
bitte nicht bitter!
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 12:38 AM, joseph (yes=no yes>no) wrote:
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
She really had you fooled, dear Echo.
Hi Kathy, are you trying to maintain a voice of superior reason?
Fuck that shit! This is what I think. It's complicated and I wasn't sure
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Fuck that shit! This is what I think. It's complicated and I wasn't
sure who was who*, but what I said makes the most sense to me.
You said what you think, but you were trying to make sure I was impressed and
suitably silenced by what you think (a
America/New_York
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not nice
Shall I forward the rest??? 6.1 plus 8.3 kb.
I'm with Eryk. What he said.
I am thinking of Tao to be precise, sorry - they believed art to be sacred because art was thought without words
wow Josh...Boulez project
and you thot death couple was heavy!
let me know how i can get hisher work to destroy
also let me know how I can help you
i am trying to be fluxy
let me ask you? why art?
I would like o know from you and others
love madwg
the idea of death
performance art
yesyesyes!
the harbor seals barking
bleating
natochke or whatever their Fib
anocci number is
death
hey great article on Ray
dont ya think?
death
hm
why art death couple?
much love a housewife in the midwest
kleine nachtmusik
ist
ritalin?
ja nicht eine gross mortmonster
ja Mery Christmas von Stalag 8B
tell death a message from madawg- dont pick on bertrand!!! he was the only one hat wanted you on- besides me of coarse because death couple was passionate and passion by default deserves a voice-
How dont we know this death couple isnt Allens personal nemesis? his ex?
all of you fail art history
oh yah i forgot- maybe the fluxsters got it wrong
Honnestly, Jospeh, who wouldn't?
You're really looking for trouble...let's vote! ;-)
Bertrand
PS: thanks Georg for the addresses, but I'm not such an addict...just a
regular consummer, and I wouldn't like to get an O.D., I prefer it
homeopatically.
Why would you want to connote a beloved
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It was dear Echo, not Dear Echo. To connote a beloved acolyte, not
to address you.
This does not make sense - in what context was it necessary to connote a
beloved acolyte?
The statement was: She really had you fooled, dear Echo.
The subject was K,
(to the list member that forward the posts to death monster, don't forget to
post that one too)
Shall I forward the rest??? 6.1 plus 8.3 kb.
Yes, please, I'd be delighted to see if the rethoric is the same, or if s/he
can adpat depending on the people.
I'm with Eryk. What he said.
Er...when?
Danke schön, liebe verruckte Hund
Sie auch
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From:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:27
PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New
subscription process not nice
kleine nachtmusikistritalin?ja nicht eine
I agree and I'm in! thank you crispin.
we could always just start
by setting a number for the edition 5O LIKE THE last
one. SO we could all make 5o of something and send it
to CRISPIN WEBB
4 west chestnut
apt # 5 mount vernon
ohio 43050
just keep it small to or whatever
Send your
Thanks Josh, I really am fluxy enough by those criteria, count me in for the
box#2.
How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy?
If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th
Century art and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or
fluxish.
If
In a message dated 1/7/03 6:40:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is not what was happening. Loosing a legitimate voice (sans violence) is a
self-inflicted misery and fear of such happening is an insecurity (note that
this is an opinion derived through inner reflection and
On 1/8/03 12:10 AM, Crispin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The more i think about this project the more i feel
like it has to have a container decided upon we should
take a vote. We need a list of all ideas for container
and their accessability. LOWEST COST, HIGHEST
DURABILITY my ideas so far
If Fluxus has Zen
roots then all is beautiful and perfect because it is.
How could Fluxus have Zen roots? From my limited understanding, Zen teaches
that no works are necessary to achieve enlightenment - it is instantaneous
intuitive knowledge after eliminating conceptual thought. Fluxus
brad} wrote:
hey Josh, saw your Boulez project mentioned in The
Wire (!) have you had many responses so far?
For info on my Pierre Boulez Project, see http://home.flash.net/~jronsen/boulez.html
I am collecting 100 Boulez records, books and scores to destroy them. This is an
attempt to align
I think Feb 8 is way too soon. I need time to think and plan and dream and scheme and
plan and throw everything away and start over from stratch.
I like the paint can idea with a CDR in it.
Altoids box is too small, although perfect for another project, perhaps a project of
tiny works of art?
here here.
cigar boxes sound fun. though the mexican tomatillo box was my
favorite. paint cans/altoids/film canisters/etc are too synthetic and
cold for my taste.
in case anyone cared...
I vote for the cigar box at $1, light, big enough, well-constructed.
I will
also be helping on the project,
How could Fluxus have Zen roots? Fluxus seems very
conceptual to me.
maybe because everything is not conceptual in Fluxus...
i like the cigar box too.
bests, carol
Don Boyd wrote:
I vote for the cigar box at $1, light, big enough, well-constructed. I will
also be helping on the project, as Crispin forgot to mention. Ha! -Don
Crispin, I like the idea of either the plastic zip-loc storage bags, which
someone suggested, or cigar boxes -- with those, people could conceivably
send their submissions in a box, which you would refill with a complete
collaborative and send back -- or send to someone else, with each
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:37 AM, joseph (yes=no yesno)
wrote:
This is not what was happening. Loosing a legitimate voice (sans
violence) is a
self-inflicted misery and fear of such happening is an insecurity
(note that
this is an opinion derived through inner reflection and as
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
She really had you fooled, dear Echo.
Hi Kathy, are you trying to maintain a voice of superior reason? The dear
strategy is only useful against people with deep seated insecurities...and all
you accomplish is beating up on somebody who is already
René Girard's book (in french le Bouc émisaire) is
worth reading (as many of Girard's books) but in fact what was underlined by the
reaction I had, as I think it was the case with one of Tamas' lasts posts, is
not the question of expelling this one or the other (it became obvious at
one
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From: Bertrand Clavez
To: Fluxlist
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not
nice
René Girard's book (in french le Bouc émisaire) is
worth reading (as many of Girard's books) but in fact what
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
and black undertow. She was a bloodsucker and sought, or didn't seek
but effected, by an entropicizing presence and Joseph's (intentionally
or not) act of becoming her scapegoat/alter-ego, to deprive everyone of
a legitimate voice.
This is not what was
zoe marsh wrote:
How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy?
If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th Century art
and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or fluxish.
If janitors try to sweep your art off the floor, it may be suitably fluxy.
If
My dictionary is listing some 100'000 key-words. Altoid is not one of
them.
Some further explanation?
That's amazing! never, never prior to this praised day, so many people have
replied to a mail of mine! thank you - especially to m'lore. In fact, now i
remember! my mother's second husband used
This sounds dead on right to me!
John
At 09:22 AM 1/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
zoe marsh wrote:
How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy?
If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th
Century art and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or
fluxish.
hey Josh, saw your Boulez project mentioned in The Wire (!)
have you had many responses so far?
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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough?
This sounds dead on right to me!
John
At 09:22 AM 1/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
zoe marsh wrote:
How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy?
If you show it to a High School art teacher
The more i think about this project the more i feel
like it has to have a container decided upon we should
take a vote. We need a list of all ideas for container
and their accessability. LOWEST COST, HIGHEST
DURABILITY my ideas so far
Candy tins 50 or more free but small
Cigar boxes 1$ per box
My dictionary is listing some 100'000 key-words. Altoid is not one of them.
Some further explanation?
I have access to 50 or more small altoid like
boxes.Perfect and free easy to ship perfect this is
for real dont just blow it off
--
Georg Birkner Dipl. Arch. ETH
Roentgenstrasse 44
CH - 8005
non-colonialised equivalent of cachou 'negro spiritual' (marque déposée) -
altoids (marque déposée) : little pastilles that help alto from
singing russian bass - as opposed to alto horn
come/came in smallish rectangular metal boxes (whereas fisherman's
friend now come in paper packet)
cachou
In a message dated 1/4/03 1:05:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Scapegoat! Scapegoat! Let's all go scape a goat we don't like!"
Tag, you're it.
oops, what about if the death monster wants to kick us off our nice
little game grid? Maybe the monster can have it all to
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:56:52 -0800
From: Alex Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
then there's always ziploc freezer bags.
you can get 50 for about $5, Holds a gallon of art with no spills and you
can affix a sticker lable to the outside.
in fact it seems
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks to NONE of you folks I finally figured out how to attach others email to mine, another step to being less annoying. I have no idea what you mean about a scapegoat. All I know is that the nazis wanted things nice and clean
Am trying to limit contributions to one a day--
I like the idea of the globe, but I would gladly contribute to any type of box
--I think fluxus should be changed to fluxis: it shouldnt be based on history- its suppose to be based on now, no?
-- I am always suspicious of nice-it creeps me out more
Scapegoat! Scapegoat! Let's all go scape a goat we don't like!
Tag, you're it.
oops, what about if the death monster wants to kick us off our nice
little game grid? Maybe the monster can have it all to herself. We
didn't really like it much and death monster thought we were pretty
boring just
after all, I have not met mr tamas,
This might be a difference: I did
The thing is, I wonder if the Europeans on the list are not perhaps more
appreciative of what they see as a sort of nice stringent nastiness
because
their daily lives are really quite insulated from such behavior.
You
Dear Fluxlisters:
Sol once counseled me on e-mails with html. Melissa, look at yours, please
Here is what he said, so check yours out:
You are sending HTML mails. I see from your e-mail that you're using Outlook
Express..to turn off HTML mailing and send all your messages in plain text
do the
okay...
so you could perform both of the Cage pieces at the same time.
That would be interesting.
And the 0'00 piece could actually last for 4'33
?
Roger Stevens writes:
so you could perform both of the Cage pieces at the same time.
That would be interesting.
And the 0'00 piece could actually last for 4'33
The two pieces could be performed at the same time, but Cage did not want the
performance of 0'00 to be the performance of another
On 1/2/03 3:56 PM, Alex Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
then there's always ziploc freezer bags.
you can get 50 for about $5, Holds a gallon of art with no spills and you
can affix a sticker lable to the outside.
in fact it seems rather fluxus to make our second box a plastic bag.
Alex
A paint can?
http://www.containerstore.com/browse/Product.jhtml?PRODID=62625CATID=262
We would have to get a round case for the CDR, at least for the 16oz can.
-Josh Ronsen
in Austin, Texas
Need a new email address that people can remember
Check out the new EudoraMail at
2. We'll kick out any obnoxious drunks or troublemakers.
Who's we? When does someone start to make trouble? Is Ann Klefstad still
allowed of writing If Eric and IPUT had ever contributed anything that
wasn't a snotty putdown, colored by arch pissy self-interest(...) or You
smell of old belgian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A paint can?
Cans are cool - I have published several multiples in cans and so I know that they can
work very well - I also have a canning press so we could literally can or seal the
box, so that would have to use an opener to get at the contents (kind of
relates to
brad brace wrote:
I think that karei should assume the role of
list-administrator.
I think we each should spend a day as list administrator. We can then each kick off,
or invite (or neither) whomever we wanted. Things would even out at the end, unless
the last administrator is a nihilist and
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Cecil Touchon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: More ideas about the box
A paint can?
http://www.containerstore.com/browse
On 1/3/03 10:33 AM, Georg Birkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. We'll kick out any obnoxious drunks or troublemakers.
Who's we? When does someone start to make trouble? Is Ann Klefstad still
allowed of writing If Eric and IPUT had ever contributed anything that
wasn't a snotty putdown, colored
Owen,
What it did have was a copy of series of letters between Maciunas and Lindbergh and
this is what I would really like to see/ have.
I forgot to ask you - who was Lindbergh?
-Mindaugas
I'd be interested in this too.
--
My (as yet unlaunched) seed exchange has been expanded to
include an (unused/forgotten) key exchange. Just something
else to keep in mind. ;))
/:b
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The results of the first box can be found here:
http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/boxfram.html
I think each person made 50 editions of a work and contributed $5 to cover postage
and materials (the box). Everyone got 1 box with one of each submission. I do not
Hurrah for us all! Anne, Owen, Allen, and all to sanity again. May we all
have a more peaceful 2003!
jah
Judith A. Hoffberg
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P.O. Box 3640
Santa Monica, CA 90408
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tel: (310)399-1146, fax: 399-5070
Let a smile be your umbrella!
Owen writes:
I am willing to organize again, although I am also more
than willing to pass the mantel on if someone else wants
to take on the role of organizer for the project, Josh?
From my point of view, the first Box went so well that I think you SHOULD do it.
However, I am willing to do
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From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
Owen writes:
I am willing to organize again, although I am also more
than willing to pass the mantel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil
Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and costs of such a
venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there be some wooden boxes
made for some other use that
what about we all find a pile of boxes which exceed certain minimum
dimensions? no 2 alike.
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 04:28 PM, cecil touchon wrote:
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil
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what about we all find a pile of boxes which exceed certain minimum
dimensions? no 2 alike.
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 04:28 PM, cecil touchon wrote:
what about some wooden boxes custom made
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That could be a cool idea... how about we each come up with a box, put our
contribution if 50 or whatever number works into it, ship it and then the
central clearing house shuffles up the boxes so that no one gets the one
they sent? I hope that makes sense.
cecil
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here
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Fluxlist in tomatillo crates, i like it. . . . yes that's a cool idea too:
agriflux.
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What is Ligeti's 0'00 ?
I assume it is a joke of Ligeti on Cage's 4'33 and not related to Cage's 0'00 from
1962 (subtitled 4'33 No. 2).
For all his pride in the piece, Cage maintained that his sole intervention was to
alert listeners to ambient noise. His was a clear and humble statement of
Well, what would happen if you performed the two pieces one after the other
without a break?
4'33 followed by 0'00
Would you still end up with 4'33?
- or if you followed 4'33 with Ligeti's 0'00 rather than Cage's.
How would you be able to tell the difference?
Suppose you composed a piece
Roger,
Thank you
you're the greatest
Bertrand
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From: Roger STEVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: 0'00
Well, what would happen if you performed the two pieces one after the
other
without
i'd like to contribute some material for this new box
a timeframe for the project will tell me what i can do!
2003 AD
Roger STEVENS writes:
- - or if you followed 4'33 with Ligeti's 0'00 rather than Cage's.
How would you be able to tell the difference?
I have not found out what the score/instructions for Ligeti's piece are. The stage
setup could be quite elaborate, although brief.
On Cage's 0'00: The title
Escaping work : that's a nice reason to make art isn't it?
Well then. How about everybody start making art only.
I've heard about something called Fluxus which is said to have been trying
to consider working normally as an artform (but what can working
normally be meaning?...)
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Bertrand Clavez wrote:
Escaping work : that's a nice reason to make art isn't it?
Well then. How about everybody start making art only.
I've heard about something called Fluxus which is said to have been trying
to consider working normally as an artform (but what
god how can you be immune? my feelings are always hurt being an artist- I guess thats not being hurt by art. I was just hughly betrayed by a close friend in art/regarding my art. I guess I am hurt by my own art! wah
art feels good too(: moomoo
its not the art its how one gets treated because of theart- not serious enough-and all that- I recently wrote a play about that very issue. american culture because so much is commodified doesnt understand how artists fight for their rights. Until there is a war and suddenly the artists are the
of the stick?
will be making phone calls on new years eve and think of you all doing same,
happy art making, z
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:58:27 EST
its not the art its how one
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
death couplesays stop my projecting on them
madawg says if you would reveal yourself I wouldnt have to guess
No babycheeks. You're responsible for your own behavior.
Avoid attempting to justify your murderous idiot behavior with
drivel.
We
the idea that one cant debate art without knowing the original cast of characters were or any art history I feel is incorrect- all you need to do is look at the art. People lose faith in the fact that art is a visual language- this is why little kids can judge art. This is why visual art-
sorry-I (and its just I,no we) do art regardless of how I get treated but it would be nice if there was a little respect- not fluxlist-they are always nice. I think its a cultural thing- if I could get rid of all my asshoile friends I could tell you if it was cultural or just local.
death couple writes: stop your mindless self involved drivel madawg
madawg writes: okay moomoo
Zoe wrote: "are you all seriuos about how your art hurts? i do sympathise coz sometimes it does, but it would be worse not to do it and more painful to be working in a factory."
Hmm... How about when you have to work in a factory so that you can carry on making art? To me, that's often been the
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, sean henry wrote:
Zoe wrote: are you all seriuos about how your art hurts? i do
sympathise coz sometimes it does, but it would be worse not to do it
and more painful to be working in a factory.
Escaping work : that's a nice reason to make art isn't it?
Well then. How
yes! fabian writes: he or she is a wildcat for art factory or not
madawg writes: my old boyfriend came over for a Christmas Eve party and said he would have married me if it were'nt for my bad temper/ now this man lives on the ocean at Carmel beach / gee I am a bitch but heyI amgetting a dog so
yes karai
yes I see
yes
yes it is I
i sorry
sorry for the rotation
sorry I need protection
John bennett protects me no matter what
you have no power over him or them
I
I
II
give me another shot and I will tell you all
I am protected
so go and be
Even Athena had ahelmet
all rotates around me
sean hewnry it sounds like aminors song
I am sorry for my lousy typing
anyway death --- fuck you and happy neew year
that hurts. How often have I wished I could do something else and be happy?
All the best,
Fabrice.
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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:28:27 EST
fabe wrote something like:what
How about a photo of Ken tossing the watermelon? I recall a story about Ken
having a show in NYC
about 1983? He was feeling good as he had just sold one of his drawings to
Christo. I spent some time with him in the gallery, then said my goodbyes. I
was about half a block doown the street
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Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: listen
So what does everyone on this list listen to?
I am still very much interested in the modernist/avant-garde composers
Ligeti, Xenakis, Nono, Scelsi, Stockhausen, and Cage and Feldman whose works
exist on another level
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hey I guess death guy takes a holiday Lets move the list while he's
gone---
We are not a 'guy.
Avoid attempting to slap your projections onto us.
I seem to be immune to it, sadly(?)
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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Joseph McElroy
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:46:57 +0200
H,
Art that hurts? Never encountered that.
Interesting concept
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