On Sunday 23 December 2012 17:44:53 Marco van de Voort wrote:
> In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> > > Do you know how RTTI will be encoded?
> >
> > I would guess short/ansistrings, since pascal identifiers must be a
> > subset of ASCII anyway.
>
> Not Delphi 2009+ btw, which allo
Hi all,
I must say, it is actually quite fun to be a part of the FPC
Developers mailing list, I don't know why I didn't join sooner. Quite
interesting conversations and ideas, a little bit of bickering but very
understanding people in general, I like it. I want to add my two cents
before
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb:
Well, let me just say that the idea of two RTL's is rather ridiculous
too!!
It's not different from Delphi, where the introduction of
UnicodeString required a renewed RTL, VCL and IDE. Who should do the
same for FPC and Lazarus, and tell the users that they eithe
Leif Ekblad schrieb:
IMO, I wouldn't support wide-character (UnicodeString) strings for
anything new.
In the beginning the wide-character string had the advantage of being
able to represent
all characters with 2 bytes, but this is no longer the case. I would
switch to UTF-8
instead and keep ch
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> > Do you know how RTTI will be encoded?
>
> I would guess short/ansistrings, since pascal identifiers must be a subset
> of ASCII anyway.
Not Delphi 2009+ btw, which allow UTF8 identifiers.
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On 23.12.2012 17:01, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Friday 21 December 2012 13:26:12 Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
After that there will be 2 RTLs:
1. The classical RTL, compatible with what you have now.
2. The unicode-string RTL which will use the
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Friday 21 December 2012 13:26:12 Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
After that there will be 2 RTLs:
1. The classical RTL, compatible with what you have now.
2. The unicode-string RTL which will use the namespaces of Delphi.
Do you know how RTTI will
On 23.12.2012 16:58, Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Friday 21 December 2012 13:26:12 Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
After that there will be 2 RTLs:
1. The classical RTL, compatible with what you have now.
2. The unicode-string RTL which will use the namespaces of Delphi.
Do you know how RTTI will be
On Friday 21 December 2012 13:26:12 Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
> After that there will be 2 RTLs:
> 1. The classical RTL, compatible with what you have now.
> 2. The unicode-string RTL which will use the namespaces of Delphi.
>
Do you know how RTTI will be encoded?
Martin
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Sven Barth wrote:
Did you know that my addition of target NativeNT was published as patch
to the bug tracker? Did you know that I wrote patches for the cppclass
feature to get it a bit more working than before? It was only the class
helpers where I got access to a personal branch in SVN and on
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 23/12/12 10:13, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
? No, the old RTL will remain maintained. It's the same codebase, just
recompiled.
It was impossible to deduce that from your earlier reply
http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.
On 23/12/12 10:13, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
> ? No, the old RTL will remain maintained. It's the same codebase, just
> recompiled.
It was impossible to deduce that from your earlier reply
http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27659.html
With the new information a
In our previous episode, Leif Ekblad said:
> all characters with 2 bytes, but this is no longer the case. I would switch
> to UTF-8
> instead and keep characters 1 byte long. A switch to UTF-8 only affects a
> small amount of the code-base, and doesn't break string references.
Any solution will n
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
> OK, so once again it is proven that Unicode is just not "sexy" enough
> for the core team, so it will stay stagnant for a few more years.
No. Simply getting older.
> That's unless a member ignores all discussions and does his own thing [or
> gets
Leif Ekblad wrote:
IMO, I wouldn't support wide-character (UnicodeString) strings for
anything new.
In the beginning the wide-character string had the advantage of being
able to represent
all characters with 2 bytes, but this is no longer the case. I would
switch to UTF-8
instead and keep char
On Sunday 23 December 2012 11:12:42 Leif Ekblad wrote:
> IMO, I wouldn't support wide-character (UnicodeString) strings for anything
> new.
I don't like to read that. ;-)
Martin
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On 23.12.2012 11:11, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Sven Barth wrote:
to remember to mention which RTL they are using when reporting bugs,
keeps those two RTL's in sync over time etc. Yeah, it seams you guys are
sometimes not to knowledgeable either. All you are going to do i
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Well, let me just say that the idea of two RTL's is rather ridiculous
too!!
It's not different from Delphi, where the introduction of UnicodeString
required a renewed RTL, VCL and IDE. Who should do the same for F
IMO, I wouldn't support wide-character (UnicodeString) strings for anything
new.
In the beginning the wide-character string had the advantage of being able
to represent
all characters with 2 bytes, but this is no longer the case. I would switch
to UTF-8
instead and keep characters 1 byte long.
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Sven Barth wrote:
to remember to mention which RTL they are using when reporting bugs,
keeps those two RTL's in sync over time etc. Yeah, it seams you guys are
sometimes not to knowledgeable either. All you are going to do is create
more work for yourselves. But hey, who a
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains.
LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE
mailing list.
No, but I think you hugely overestimate what goes
On 23.12.2012 01:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains.
LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE
mailing list.
I don't think direction on unicode (or even general)
Am 23.12.2012 01:50, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys:
> On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote:
>> I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains.
>
> LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE
> mailing list.
>
>
>> I don't think direction on unicode (o
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains.
LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE
mailing list.
Which is why I suggested that a semi-formal way of taking disputes to it
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