Re: fd1720

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Any specific types/brands of CF to IDE adapter you could recommend? Either the tapr one (http://www.tapr.org) or the pcengines one (http://www.pcengines.com) work. Timing solutions builds its own, so I don't know of others. The one on t

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex Belits writes: : > That is your interpretation. Other lawyers disagree with that : > interpretation. : : No. This issue was beaten to death multiple times, large amount of : software was created based on this, and its legality is absolutely : certain by now

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , Alex Belits writes: >On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote: >> : This is simply not true -- unless your hardware is the result of >> : modification of GPL'ed program, something that I don't expect to see any >> : soon, as so far no hardware ever was GPL'ed in th

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > One could argue that adding a driver is a derived work. You are > modifying tables in the kernel with references to your device, and the > rest comes in under the contamination theory. Until the matter has > been properly adjudicated, you cannot say wit

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

* Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001224 19:28] wrote: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:35:30PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >* Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001224 13:39] wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: > >>>(At least one large company I k

Re: keeping lots of systems all the same...

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:15:40AM -0500, Mike Nowlin scribbled: | Handling the OS updates is pretty easy... Is there any equally easy way | to keep a particular set of ports updated automatically? I'd like to | avoid having to do a "make deinstall; make install" all the time... Look at sysinst

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

Rik van Riel wrote: > > It's quite common for a manufacturer to completely stop > driver development once a particular model of hardware > (say a certain video card) is no longer sold. > > This, in turn, leads to the situation where the user has > to chose between the following options: > > 1.

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:35:30PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >* Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001224 13:39] wrote: >>On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: >>>(At least one large company I know of has stated flatly, for example, that >>>sending a root password

Re: fd1720

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Compact Flash. They take those Compact Flash cards that are used in >> digital cameras and run them in TrueIDE mode so they look for all the >> world like a IDE disk to the host computer. >Any specific types/brands of CF to IDE adapter

Re: fd1720

> Compact Flash. They take those Compact Flash cards that are used in > digital cameras and run them in TrueIDE mode so they look for all the > world like a IDE disk to the host computer. Any specific types/brands of CF to IDE adapter you could recommend? Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAI

Re: Thinkpad Partition Problem Solved?

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 06:16:22PM +, Nik Clayton scribbled: | x-posting to -hackers | | On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:18:05PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: | > > | > > + | > > + I have an IBM Thinkpad A20p that FreeBSD installs on, but then | > > + the machine locks up on next boot.

Re: fd1720

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : CF? : > Then I discovered CF to IDE adapters... Compact Flash. They take those Compact Flash cards that are used in digital cameras and run them in TrueIDE mode so they look for all the world like a IDE disk

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David O'Brien" writes: >On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 04:14:20PM -0600, Peter Seebach wrote: >> it's not possible to just set a bit and make it work with, say, a 3C875J >> card, >You sure? The PC164 that was Beast.freebsd.org had an 875 card: Yes, sure. The 3C875J is

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 04:14:20PM -0600, Peter Seebach wrote: > it's not possible to just set a bit and make it work with, say, a 3C875J > card, You sure? The PC164 that was Beast.freebsd.org had an 875 card: sym0: <875> port 0x1-0x100ff mem 0x8201-0x82010fff,0x82011000-0x820110ff irq

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

* Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001224 13:39] wrote: > On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > > > (At least one large company I know of has stated flatly, for example, that > > sending a root password over the wire in the clear is grounds for immediate > > ter

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > FreeBSD advocacy is prefectly alright. > > And there's nothing wrong with calling them Linux weenies in > FreeBSD circles :) I usually don't even say it that nicely when > I'm referring to the more rabid Linux "weenies": "Linux is > better than anyt

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt Dillon wrote: > > :Reverse engineering is a myth. The result is so inferior to high-level > > :language source code as to not be a concern, plus its illegal so it cant be > > :marketed. > > Reverse engineering is very legal,

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rik van Riel writes: >THIS is the real reason for preferring source code support drivers. >Not even the usually higher quality of the open source drivers or >the faster availability of the manufacturer's drivers change this >situation. As a nice concrete example,

Re: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Matt Dillon wrote: > Yes, it's a pretty sad state of affairs. What annoys me the most is > that companies actually believe they are protecting something when > they don't make their device driver source or hardware documentation > available. It has been well

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > (At least one large company I know of has stated flatly, for example, that > sending a root password over the wire in the clear is grounds for immediate > termination.) This is a very security consious company, but I think they a

Burncd problems

I am on FreeBSD 4.1.1 (according to website, burncd hasn't changed at 4.2 or -current). cdmachine# burncd -f /dev/acd0c data cdimage.1 fixate next writeable LBA 0 writing from file cdimage.1 size 43568 KB only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSETRACK): Input/output error Hmm. c

Re: fd1720

CF? JAn > > Then I discovered CF to IDE adapters... > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

void wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > It is possible. It is not trivial. > > > > > What leads you to believe that it's not trival? > > Eliza, is that you? > > god that takes me back! -- _

Re: anyone want to learn XML / work on FreshPorts2?

On 24 Dec 2000, at 19:19, Andrea Campi wrote: > What tools do you plan on using? After all, if I got it right, we're not > talking about *parsing* XML, rather, generating valid XML, correct? Also, I > never created a proper DTD before, so for step 1 I am not the perfect fit. > Anyway, I can learn

Re: anyone want to learn XML / work on FreshPorts2?

On 24 Dec 2000, at 18:26, Nik Clayton wrote: > Look at ports/devel/cvs2cl, which converts CVS logs in to GNU style > changelogs. One of the output options is the CVS logs in XML form. > That's probably a good starting point. Thanks. A very good idea. Last night someone created a DTD. I've f

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

LOL :) On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 06:55:40PM +, void wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > It is possible. It is not trivial. > > > > > What leads you to believe that it's not trival? > > Eliza, is that

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > It is possible. It is not trivial. > > > What leads you to believe that it's not trival? Eliza, is that you? -- Ben 220 go.ahead.make.my.day ESMTP Postfix To Unsubscribe: send m

Re: Thinkpad Partition Problem Solved?

x-posting to -hackers On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:18:05PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > + > > + I have an IBM Thinkpad A20p that FreeBSD installs on, but then > > + the machine locks up on next boot. How can I solve this? > > + > > I'd start with "I have an IBM ThinkP

Re: anyone want to learn XML / work on FreshPorts2?

On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:36:16AM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > I plan to parse the cvs-all messages into an XML log. The first stage is > to create an XML template. This template will be used by any source > tree which wishes to input data into FreshPorts2. But for now, we'll > concentrate

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writ es: >One could argue that adding a driver is a derived work. You are >modifying tables in the kernel with references to your device, and the >rest comes in under the contamination theory. Until the matter has >been properly adjudicated, you cannot

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex Belits writes: : WTF are you talking about? Derived work is the result of modification of : the original, not just something dependent on its functionality. One could argue that adding a driver is a derived work. You are modifying tables in the kernel with

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

Drew Eckhardt wrote: > To be pedantic, you only need to provide source for works derived > from GPL'd software which in this case means the kernel propper. User > land applications and device drivers may be shipped in binary-only > form because they are separate works, even when distributed in > a

Re: fd1720

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On the same token, I have tried to get a (possibly used) 2.88 MB Floppy : drive for some time. It seems to me that even though all floppy : controllers support these babies, nobody makes them. There are one or

RE: Sitting on hands (no longer Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT)

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Wes Peters > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:29 PM > To: Drew Eckhardt > Cc: SteveB; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Sitting on hands (no longer Re: FreeBSD vs > Linux, Solaris, > and NT) > > >

Re: StrongARM support?

the freebsd-arm mailing list is now ready for use. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: New netgraph features?

Nick Sayer wrote: If everyone interested is on -net I'll trim all future headers to that.. -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ from Perth, presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PR

Re: New netgraph features?

Nick Sayer wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Netgraph was designed to be a link-level patch-pannel within ONE machine.. > > I guess you might be able to use it to bridge between two networks > > that are on different machines... but > > > > Having successfully us

Re: New netgraph features?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Netgraph was designed to be a link-level patch-pannel within ONE machine.. > I guess you might be able to use it to bridge between two networks > that are on different machines... but > Having successfully used a combination of vtund, if_tap

Re: Software Patents. Was Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

Peter Mutsaers wrote: > >> "Julian" == Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs muc de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> In Europe, software > >> patents do not exist and cannot be granted. > > Julian> Wrong ! Sadly ! That's the old simple theoretical world I > Julian> learnt about back in Univers

Re: Pentium 4

> > > Basically, there are 3 possible issues for Pentium4: > > > > > > - higher clock frequency (also for newer P3) may cause overflow > > > in counters of delay loops - hopefully this does not happen in > > > FreeBSD > > > > We calibrate our delay loops. 8) > > If not enough bits are allowed to

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:40:07PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > I want to create a comprehensive body of knowledge that can > > then be used to make fliers to hand out to Linux weenies at > ^^^

Re: Sitting on hands (no longer Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT)

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 12:28:36AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > isn't coming to the forefront: commercial companies have formal QA staff > because their development staff either can't or won't do the QA themselves. I would not agree with that at all. Commercial companies have format QA because it

Re: Hardware (Not FBSD) issue

[This really belongs on -questions] Mike Nowlin wrote: >I'm looking for a technical answer to this one - I have a good background >in electronics, but never really spent much time on the i386 architecture. >One of my clients has an interface card (StarLAN, ISA) that controls an >embroidery mach

Hardware (Not FBSD) issue

(If you're looking for FBSD-specific messages, hit "next"...) I'm looking for a technical answer to this one - I have a good background in electronics, but never really spent much time on the i386 architecture. One of my clients has an interface card (StarLAN, ISA) that controls an embroidery