Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Mike Wade
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised when I reported that it works without any problems

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Jim Sander
Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. But I just built up a Redhat 6.2 box with one, and all seemed to be working fine, but

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov
Mike Wade writes: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised when I reported that it works

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 08:51 AM 01/26/2001, Mike Wade wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. They were surprised when I

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 09:47 AM 01/26/2001, Jim Sander wrote: Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. But I just built up a Redhat 6.2 box with

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Dennis
At 11:43 AM 01/26/2001, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote: Mike Wade writes: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: Performance isn't even the main thing. As I said earlier, it's plain bloody unreliable. Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the

Re: if_fxp driver info (which card then?)

2001-01-26 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 26 January 2001 at 9:47:38 -0500, Jim Sander wrote: Linux people avoid the EtherExpress because they think something is wrong with the card. Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards in FreeBSD These cards work well in our many 3.x and 4.x systems. But I just built up a

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 08:52 PM 01/24/2001, David Greenman wrote: David Greenman wrote: supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the driver was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work started showing up on

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread David Greenman
I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that I was looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except Linux. This is the list. NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers Novell Netware* Client 3.11, 3.12

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and was chalk-full of

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
If they have a published, freely distributable driver for linux. why would you have to sign an NDA to port it to FreeBSD? You don't. But reverse engineering isn't always complete. I should know- having gone through hell for the Gigabit NIC for *BSD... mostly reverse engineered from the

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 01:24 PM 01/25/2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: If they have a published, freely distributable driver for linux. why would you have to sign an NDA to port it to FreeBSD? You don't. But reverse engineering isn't always complete. there is a difference between "reverse engineering" and porting

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Dennis wrote: At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Dennis
At 12:48 PM 01/25/2001, David Greenman wrote: I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that I was looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except Linux. This is the list. NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Jonathan Lemon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:00:47PM -0500, Dennis wrote: The case with the intel driver is the "ASSumption" that its been done correctly and that the procedures for using the functions available are correct. Bahwhahahahah. Right. Yeah, right. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Sergey Babkin
David Greenman wrote: I don't know what list you are looking at, but the download list that I was looking at did not include SCO, Unixware or any other Unix variant except Linux. This is the list. NDIS2, NDIS3, NDIS4 and NDIS5 drivers Novell

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-25 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 25 January 2001 at 12:54:17 -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Dennis wrote: At 10:58 PM 01/24/2001, Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and

RE: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Koster, K.J.
2) I don't have any boards that don't work correctly. I have several. If you send me your surface-mail address, I can ship one to you. Kees Jan You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe:

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Dennis
I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. That's "chock full", and you're confusing the Becker driver (bad) with the

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. That's "chock full", and you're confusing the Becker driver (bad) with the

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Greenman writes: "drivers for every major OS"? They have drivers for Windows, Window/NT, and Linux. Of those Linux is the closest to FreeBSD, but that's like saying that a penguin is similar to a human because they are both mammals. Pinguins are birds...

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Greenman writes: "drivers for every major OS"? They have drivers for Windows, Window/NT, and Linux. Of those Linux is the closest to FreeBSD, but that's like saying that a penguin is similar to a human because they are both mammals. Pinguins are birds...

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Babkin
David Greenman wrote: supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the driver was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work started showing up on the loading dock. Every time I get a shipment we

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread David Greenman
David Greenman wrote: supporting it if someone ported it over to freebsd? they have drivers for just about every other major OS except BSD. it would be nice if the driver was updated BEFORE cards and MBs that dont work started showing up on the loading dock. Every time I get a shipment we

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. That's "chock

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 17:08:16 -0500, Dennis wrote: I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the Linux Pro/100+ driver has totally sucked and was chalk-full of magic numbers being anded and ored. That's "chock full", and

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Matthew Jacob
I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with something which doesn't work well? There's been a hint of 'vendor supported' To

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 21:07:45 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with something which doesn't

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-24 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 21:07:45 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: I've come in in the middle of this discussion, so maybe there's something I don't know, but on the same hardware and running FreeBSD, I had no problems. Why should we want to replace the driver with something which

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Dennis
At 01:38 PM 12/19/2000, David Greenman wrote: Your stupidity is also is emphasized by the fact that no major manufacturer has supported drivers for freebsd. Intel wont even help by providing docs. Bravo. What a WIN for the freebsd community. You've done a tremendous job marketing your

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Smith
I think he's refering to the 82559 manual. It is available from Intel to developers, but only with an NDA. For various reasons, I can't sign an NDA for that information without putting myself in legal jeopardy. That has always been true, but I was able to obtain the [now older] 82557

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread David Greenman
I guess they changed their policy on the part. I've tested the linux driver with the new part on the supermicro board and it works, so the driver is reasonably up to date. The source-available Intel driver does actually look pretty good. I don't know why David has failed to track it wrt.

Re: if_fxp driver info

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Smith
Primarily for two reasons: 1) I didn't know that Intel had released Linux driver source, and 2) I don't have any boards that don't work correctly. I don't either, anymore, sorry. 8( I'll look into the Linux driver, however, and see if it has anything useful in it. Historically the