Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time
for a complete revamp of the visual aest
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time
for a complete revamp of the visual aest
1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if
the logo would change;
Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained..
2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a
fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again, t
jsha wrote:
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time
for a complete revamp of the vi
>
> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect.
I wou
Going to reply to the whole thread so far.
jsha said:
> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
Although I don't like the tone of the other replies, I agree with their
sentiment, beasty is a
jsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>disappointed when I heard that the new Ne
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Blendea wrote:
> 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if
> the logo would change;
> Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained..
Ignoring the whole beastie thing, because we've just done that w
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57, jsha wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
> on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
> and users to the rest of the world.
>
> Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is a
:) why not send a mail like the one that started the thread to RedHat
and suggest to change their 'old' red hat logo, or to linux community
to drop the penguin...;)
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +, Paul Richards
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Ble
Hello, all
I've scrounged up the archives of the thread the last time it was
brought up, in March of 2004, when I called to initiate development for
such a project. It would have been done in-hand with [EMAIL PROTECTED] The response
was surprisingly low and the people who offered to contribute d
I'd be willing to contribute. I've had quite a bit of
free time lately.
Mark
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jsha wrote:
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time
for a complete revamp of the vi
If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we
need to have the right image.
Look ma, a strawman!
The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros
solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own
"image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly
for
> I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
> on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
> and users to the rest of the world.
representations are secondary to function. there are markets for which
this relationship is inverted. cost of entry
Sam wrote:
If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we
need to have the right image.
Look ma, a strawman!
The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros
solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own
"image," installer, system config style, etc. More imp
jsha wrote:
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
I am new to FreeBSD, only one month of use or so. I come from Debian
GNU/Linux world and only want to
--On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 9:25 Uhr -0700 Scott Long
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil)
well I love the daemon. If someone associates evil it's probably because
he/she has a special cultural or religeous background.
This "religeous" item has
Ramiro Aceves wrote:
> jsha wrote:
>> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>>ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>>disappointed when I heard that the n
--On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not the
devil. It's a daemon.
BSD Daemon.
Sure, you are right it's a daemon; I used "devil" because of it's relation
to (d)"evil".
regard
On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:37 am, Stefan Farrenkopf
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not
> > the devil. It's a daemon.
> > BSD Daemon
On 12/23/04 12:41 PM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:37 am, Stefan Farrenkopf
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > A bit OT, but to make things clear
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism,
which is not true.
I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the
things I do not
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism,
which is not true.
No you don't - would you prefer multi
On Thursday 23 December 2004 08:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >>From a business perspective we look amateurish.
>
> I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
> outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of
> professionalism, which is not true.
>
> I'm looking at
Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a
> modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading
> Style Sheets?)
you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fo
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department.
> ___
It also needs people who realise that multiple cross-posting is
deprecated.
Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy a
Chris wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of
professionalism, which is not true.
No you don't - would yo
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site
(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at all
artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and updated
those several time a day.
A while back they re-did the site int
John-Mark Gurney wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a
modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading
Style Sheets?)
you mean a sans-serif font? yes,
On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:44 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> >I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site
> >(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at
> > all artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikolas Britton
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:09 PM
> To: Chris
> >
> > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy.
>
> If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into t
On 12/24/04 12:09 AM, Nikolas Britton sat at the `puter and typed:
> Chris wrote:
>
> > Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >
> >>
> From a business perspective we look amateurish.
As opposed to, say, Microsoft?
Everyone pushing this "new image" crap keeps forgetting one thing.
This isn't a business.
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:44 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site
(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at
all artistic, but they always had links to gr
On Friday 24 December 2004 01:09 am, Nikolas Britton wrote:
[snipped]
> >
> >As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you
> > don't mess with "beastie" I say have at it if it means so much to
> > you. That is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you
> > know will
> Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm
> to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html
> site updated.
I've kept quiet up until now but I'm afraid I have to step in and
respectfully disagree here. If a site is hard to update, that ind
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100
jsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
> on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
> and users to the rest of the world.
You know that you write this a t a time where a
On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nikolas Britton wrote:
>> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
>> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
>> Cascading Style Sheets?)
>
> CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a
Great suggestions, everyone! Now, can we PLEASE move this thread off
of -questions. It doesn't belong here. Thank you.
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations,
way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is
cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD
community to do a site redesign, see here:
http://www.freebsd.org/d
Matthew Seaman wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations,
way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is
cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD
community to do a site redesign, see here:
ht
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 04:27:51PM -0500, Brian Astill wrote:
>
> Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to
> -advocacy?
Seconded.
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Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
> > > with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
> > > Cascading Style
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
Cascading Sty
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
> > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
> > discussion.
> Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was
> the
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
[ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now
and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ]
> > 2. I cringe when I see Tim
On Friday 24 December 2004 17:08, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> > > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
> > > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
> > > discussion.
> >
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
discussion.
Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. I
Chris wrote:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
discussion.
Not really - Some years back MS made a big issu
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently
claiming to have no interest in how enginges are buil
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently
claiming to have no interest i
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy
"here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the
commit mentioned above - it's at
http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all
the images
On Dec 25, Nikolas Britton responded thusly:
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of an engine wh
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Nikolas Britton responded thusly:
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the
Simon Burke wrote:
[snip]
2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign
could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- w
This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost
periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several
attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this author,
and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has been a few
years sin
Frank Pawlak wrote:
This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost
periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several
attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this
author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has
g; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Simon Burke wrote:
> [snip]
> >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
> >> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
&g
e
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Simon Burke wrote:
> [snip]
> >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
ubject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the
flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to
have today.
That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it
bec
n Burke
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> >What they care about is: 'can what I need done
> >be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me
> >in to you'
> >
> >
ubject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual
Identity: Outdated?
Simon Burke wrote: [snip]
2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of
the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful.
Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight
to the point. But
a redesign
could
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
nbritton wrote: gain this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars,
etc. I
bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do
only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical
merit alone.
A var that has a thriving Lin
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:17:29 -0600, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is one of main point I'm trying to make in all of these talks. How
> are they ever going to know it's out there and when they do make first
> contact don't you think we should greet them in a professional manner?
>
> S
It was fun while it lasted. Please stop.
If you have to, move this to chat.
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jsha wrote:
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time
for a complete revamp of th
> I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
> on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
> and users to the rest of the world.
representations are secondary to function. there are markets for which
this relationship is inverted. cost of entry
jsha wrote:
Hello.
I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
and users to the rest of the world.
I am new to FreeBSD, only one month of use or so. I come from Debian
GNU/Linux world and only wan
Sam wrote:
If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we
need to have the right image.
Look ma, a strawman!
The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros
solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own
"image," installer, system config style, etc. Mor
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Blendea wrote:
> 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if
> the logo would change;
> Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained..
Ignoring the whole beastie thing, because we've just done that w
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism,
which is not true.
I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the
things I do n
If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we
need to have the right image.
Look ma, a strawman!
The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros
solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own
"image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly
>
> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect.
I wou
John-Mark Gurney wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a
modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading
Style Sheets?)
you mean a sans-serif font?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikolas Britton
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:09 PM
> To: Chris
> >
> > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy.
>
> If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into t
Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a
> modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading
> Style Sheets?)
you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fo
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism,
which is not true.
No you don't - would you pr
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department.
> ___
It also needs people who realise that multiple cross-posting is
deprecated.
Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy a
Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
> > > with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
> > > Cascading Style
On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nikolas Britton wrote:
>> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
>> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
>> Cascading Style Sheets?)
>
> CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a
It was fun while it lasted. Please stop.
If you have to, move this to chat.
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Ramiro Aceves wrote:
> jsha wrote:
>> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>>ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>>disappointed when I heard that the n
Going to reply to the whole thread so far.
jsha said:
> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
Although I don't like the tone of the other replies, I agree with their
sentiment, beasty is a
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600:
[ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now
and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ]
> > 2. I cringe when I see Tim
imon Burke
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Simon Burke wrote:
> [snip]
> >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure
bsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Simon Burke wrote:
> [snip]
> >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
> >> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serv
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
nbritton wrote: gain this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars,
etc. I
bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do
only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical
merit alone.
A var that has a thrivi
d-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the
flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to
have today.
That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You
On Dec 25, Nikolas Britton responded thusly:
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of a
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100
jsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts
> on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes
> and users to the rest of the world.
You know that you write this a t a time where a
Frank Pawlak wrote:
This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost
periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several
attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this
author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
> > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
> > discussion.
> Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was
> the
This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost
periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several
attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this author,
and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has been a few
years sin
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site
with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of
Casca
Simon Burke wrote:
[snip]
2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign
could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy --
Chris wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an
outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of
professionalism, which is not true.
No you do
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently
claiming to have no i
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You
apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this
discussion.
Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue abou
d-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual
Identity: Outdated?
Simon Burke wrote: [snip]
2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of
the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful.
Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight
to the poi
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> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> >What they care about is: 'can what I need done
> >be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me
> >in to you'
> &g
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