[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope. Beastie is a way of life. I'd be quite upset if it were dropped
for whatever reason. It is so intimately tied to FreeBSD that it would
be a PR disaster if it were to be changed. NetBSD never had a real
The BSD daemon image stems from around 4.3BSD, or an even earlier
At 2:06 AM -0800 2/12/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
For the last time, it is not the contest that I and others are
objecting to.
I am glad to hear that this message was the last time you
mention it. Thanks.
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Joshua Tinnin writes:
> I see that you've volunteered your efforts once again in an area you
> found lacking.
Not in this area, although I did volunteer some DTP work.
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> Are you intentionally misinterpreting me?
No, I'm correcting you.
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On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:58 am, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> > This is all very well and good, but is irrelevant to the earlier
> > discussion.
>
> It doesn't have to be relevant to the earlier discussion. It is very
> highly relevant
On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Peter Risdon wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 15:56 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 8:00 AM -0500 2/11/05, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
[...]
Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and
not by commercial matters,
FreeBSD is a commercially viable operatin
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Garance A Drosehn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:59 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as
NetBSD!!!
And frankly,
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original
debate.
Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign.
Just to sum up things as I understand it...
People want to chang
Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> > Copyright does not enter the equation at all. What matters is the
> > license.
> Uh ... where there is no copyright, there is no license. Where there is
> a license, there is a copyright.
Are you intentionally misint
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:27:21 +0100, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
>
> > Actually, I haven't.
>
> I have, but mainly with hardware that I would normally use only on the
> desktop. I ended up connecting it to Windows instead.
>
> FreeBSD has good support
> Agreed, but have you never inherited control over a system with hardware
> you did not purchase?
Yup, but I've simply not gotten unsupported hardware. In the many
computers I've tried, not a single piece of hardware unsupported, from
network cards to raid cards, wireless and video, serial cards
Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> Copyright does not enter the equation at all. What matters is the
> license.
Uh ... where there is no copyright, there is no license. Where there is
a license, there is a copyright.
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Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Joshua Tinnin writes:
> > I don't think you understand the history of FreeBSD. Many people who
> > work at Yahoo! are committers, and their employer not only knows about
> > this but encourages it.
> That's not good enough. The employer has to assign
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> What we don't want are a lot of the kinds of users that infest the
> Linx forums - people that pester, pester, pester for answers to
> questions in the manual, then once they figure out how to get
> what small item they want to work, they are never seen or heard
> from i
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
> Atkielski
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 2:34 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as
>
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> Why is this a problem? Are you concerned with what our stockholders
> would say if they found out?
I'm concerned about the future of the OS if the user base dwindles.
I think that potential users of the OS should be sought out and made
aware of FreeBSD. It doesn't ha
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
> Atkielski
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:58 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garance A
> Drosihn
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:56 PM
> To: Bart Silverstrim; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another
> -Original Message-
> From: Garance A Drosehn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:59 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as
> NetBSD!!!
>
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> This is all very well and good, but is irrelevant to the earlier
> discussion.
It doesn't have to be relevant to the earlier discussion. It is very
highly relevant to FreeBSD.
> You are not a Suit we are trying to impress or get to use FreeBSD. You
> are on
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few
is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who
do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:55:06 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[..]
> Well, I hope I am helpful, at least some of the time. It seems
> to run about 50-50 that I am near the topic and am way out of touch.
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Robert Marella writes:
As far as the codebase question, he was not the one to bring it up. If
I can read between his lines, I understand that when you go in front
of the suits you can't tell them RTFM. You have to explain why FreeBSD
is head and
Robert Marella writes:
> As far as the codebase question, he was not the one to bring it up. If
> I can read between his lines, I understand that when you go in front
> of the suits you can't tell them RTFM. You have to explain why FreeBSD
> is head and shoulders above the leader of the pack.
Yes
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 20:55 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > >
> > > > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> > >
> > > I was beginning to suspect some such.
> > > Maybe worse.
> > >
> > > jerry
> > >
> > Jerry and Eric
> >
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:11 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 19:18 -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:
> > If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> > some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your
> > view points.
>
> (speaking on behalf of Jerry as well as myself, and making some wild
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:11 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>>
> >>> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >>
> >> I was beginning to suspect some such.
> >> Maybe worse.
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
> Actually, I haven't.
I have, but mainly with hardware that I would normally use only on the
desktop. I ended up connecting it to Windows instead.
FreeBSD has good support for hardware that you'd use on a server--better
than that provided by Windows.
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> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > >
> > > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >
> > I was beginning to suspect some such.
> > Maybe worse.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> Jerry and Eric
>
> If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> some of
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0700, Chad Leigh -- Shire. Net LLC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>>
> >>> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
> >>
> >> I was beginning to suspect some
> If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
> some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your
> view points.
(speaking on behalf of Jerry as well as myself, and making some wild
assumptions about Jerry based on his previous posts) Always glad to
h
On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Robert Marella wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such.
Maybe worse.
jerry
Jerry and Eric
If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
some of my
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:25 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
>
> I was beginning to suspect some such.
> Maybe worse.
>
> jerry
>
Jerry and Eric
If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on
some of my previous posts. I thank yo
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
This is a mailing list for questions about how to use FreeBSD, not why
you should
>
> athony atkielski =~ /tm452\d/ ?
I was beginning to suspect some such.
Maybe worse.
jerry
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
And the standard answer is RTFM
I don't know of anything in the manuals or on the Web site that answers
this type of question.
Typical. Cut out the rest of what I said.
You need to ask the right people, not t
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
But some of us hanging out on such lists have to answer these questions
when talking to CIOs. And saying "I don't know" just doesn't wash.
And
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
But some of us hanging out on such lists have to answer these questions
when talking to CIOs. And saying "I don't know" just doesn't wash.
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Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> This is not the right place to ask such questions.
Why is it called freebsd-questions?
> If you are
> *seriously* concerned about this, and do not think that the FreeBSD
> core / foundation and their lawyers have not thought about this, then
> you should b
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> I don't know. Go ask them. Look in the codebase yourself, or pay
> someone to do so.
Is this what you would tell someone contemplating a multimillion-dollar
investment in a FreeBSD rollout to 10,000 servers? "I don't know"? "Look
it up yourself"?
This proj
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
Be sure to tell the CIOs that. That'll do wonders for adoption of
FreeBSD.
CIOs don't hang out in public mailing lists asking such questions
Chad
You make assump
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Joshua Tinnin writes:
I don't think you understand the history of FreeBSD. Many people who
work at Yahoo! are committers, and their employer not only knows about
this but encourages it.
That's not good enough. The employer has to assign its cop
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
Be sure to tell the CIOs that. That'll do wonders for adoption of
FreeBSD.
> You make assumptions that just because someone is paying someone to
> work on FreeBSD that no one has thought of the copyright implicat
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> Do you have any proof of malfeasence?
I don't need it. That's the way copyright normally works; it's not
malfeasance. In order to protect the project, the status of copyright
in all code written for the project must be very clearly established, in
writing.
> Are you pla
Joshua Tinnin writes:
> I don't think you understand the history of FreeBSD. Many people who
> work at Yahoo! are committers, and their employer not only knows about
> this but encourages it.
That's not good enough. The employer has to assign its copyrights as
well, or waive the usual work-for-h
Can I suggest a new mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter.
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 23:42 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Andrew L. Gould writes:
>
> > That's an assumption.
>
> The project needs to ask for proof of this, and not simply assume it.
>
> > We could as easily assume that the emplo
Andrew L. Gould writes:
> That's an assumption.
The project needs to ask for proof of this, and not simply assume it.
> We could as easily assume that the employers:
Never assume anything in law. A wrong assumption could bury the
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On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Their employers are paying them TO WORK on FreeBSD. They are not
taking
their code that they write for their employers and also sticking it in
FreeBSD. Big difference.
Not if their work consists of writing c
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Look in the codebase
No, tell me right here. CIOs aren't going to look in the codebase to
try to find out if it's legal for them to use the operating system.
You ask a dumb question, get such an answer.
You m
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Sorry, but the employers are freely offering the code and assigning
> copyrights as necessary.
OK, as long as the copyrights are assigned before any of the code finds
its way into the released product.
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Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Their employers are paying them TO WORK on FreeBSD. They are not taking
> their code that they write for their employers and also sticking it in
> FreeBSD. Big difference.
Not if their work consists of writing code. In that case, the copyright
in the code b
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:13 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Laszlo writes:
> > I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid
> > to work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
>
> What written agreements do these committers have with th
On Friday 11 February 2005 02:16 pm, Anthony Atkielski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> > many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a
> > few is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a
> > handful who do it as more than a hobb
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Look in the codebase
No, tell me right here. CIOs aren't going to look in the codebase to
try to find out if it's legal for them to use the operating system.
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On Friday 11 February 2005 04:11 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> > Many of the people that work
> > on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
> > commercially.
>
> That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
> cod
Frank Laszlo writes:
> I was refering to commiters paid BY FreeBSD to provide code.
Ah ... I am reassured! You should always make that crystal-clear
whenever you mention this in discussions with anybody. Any rumor
started to the contrary could kill off interest in the OS in anyone
considering i
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few
is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who
do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Frank Laszlo writes:
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
Many of the people that work
on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
commercially.
That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
code written by their employees
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Frank Laszlo writes:
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to write something by y
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few
> is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who
> do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own
> time as well, and I salute that. But a lo
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 4:34 PM -0500 2/11/05, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
FreeBSD is driven by commercial matters. Many of the people that
work on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are
using it commercially.
I wouldnt say many, there are few commit
Frank Laszlo writes:
> I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to
> work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby.
What written agreements do these committers have with their employers?
Normally, if you are paid to write something by your employer, your
employe
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 21:31 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> What if they put it
> to a vote and the userbase all votes for logos that clearly
> represent the Beastie image? What will have been the point of
> the contest?
I am a FreeBSD user. I read and sometimes respond to several of the
lis
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
> Many of the people that work
> on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using it
> commercially.
That would mean that their employers hold a copyright in the FreeBSD
code written by their employees; this is a classic implicit
work-for-hire ar
At 4:34 PM -0500 2/11/05, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
FreeBSD is driven by commercial matters. Many of the people that
work on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are
using it commercially.
I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid
t
At 10:09 PM -0800 2/10/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> While you seem determined to pretend that Robert Watson is
> somehow the sole person interested in this, let me note I am
> one of the FreeBSD committers who would like to see some new
> ideas for a logo.
Good. At least you have my respect n
On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Frank Laszlo wrote:
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and
not by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that
is trying to steer FreeBS
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 15:56 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 8:00 AM -0500 2/11/05, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
[...]
> >Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and
> >not by commercial matters,
FreeBSD is a commercially viable operating system. I happen to think
it's the be
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:04:34 -0600, "Andrew L. Gould"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 11 February 2005 08:14 am, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Imagine Linux dropping Tux for some meanlingless, lifeless logo?
> >
> > I'm glad you asked.
> >
> > Tux is a mascot
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and not
by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that is
trying to steer FreeBSD into the business sector? Is FreeBSD
starting
> http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/bell_logos.html
I'm not sure that 6 times in 110 years is "constantly changed"
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On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:00 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
>
> Someone said people change logos all the time. That's flat out wrong.
> When a company spends mucho dinero on marketing their logo, they don't
> just flip around and decide to change their logo that they spent so
> much money and
On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and not
by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that is
trying to steer FreeBSD into the business sector? Is FreeBSD starting
to have marketing dictate technolo
At 8:00 AM -0500 2/11/05, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Just to sum up things as I understand it...
People want to change the logo from Beastie to something else
because Beastie isn't professional enough, so some committers
decided to hold a contest for a new logo?
We thought it would be nice, after fift
On Friday 11 February 2005 08:14 am, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Imagine Linux dropping Tux for some meanlingless, lifeless logo?
>
> I'm glad you asked.
>
> Tux is a mascot, not a logo. These are Linux logos:
>
> http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiccaldera.gif
>
Frank Laszlo writes:
> Are we forgetting about the printing aspect of things? The redhat logo
> has some nice gradients in it.
The GIF I'm looking at seems to contain only red and black, except for
the drop shadow, which isn't part of the logo.
> And they just plain suck, IMHO.
They look too pu
On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Napper writes:
Its been my experience that the corporate suits get the
perception of "teenage hacker" from the cartoonish mascots.
Agreed. And their perception is not always incorrect.
Am I the only one that finds some amusement in the referen
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
Tux is a mascot, not a logo. These are Linux logos:
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiccaldera.gif
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicdebian.gif
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicmandrake.gif
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/to
Napper writes:
> Its been my experience that the corporate suits get the
> perception of "teenage hacker" from the cartoonish mascots.
Agreed. And their perception is not always incorrect.
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> Tux is a mascot, not a logo. These are Linux logos:
>
> http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiccaldera.gif
> http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicdebian.gif
> http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicmandrake.gif
> http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicredhat.gif
>
Louis LeBlanc writes:
> They why would they care *what* the logo is?
They wouldn't; but the logo has an effect on the people who write the
checks, and it serves a useful purpose as a unifying identifier.
The people who write the checks don't care about "skins," though, since
they'll never actual
Bart Silverstrim writes:
> People want to change the logo from Beastie to something else because
> Beastie isn't professional enough, so some committers decided to hold a
> contest for a new logo?
Beastie isn't a logo. There is no logo for FreeBSD at the moment.
Creating one is probably a good i
People want to change the logo from Beastie to something else because
Beastie isn't professional enough, so some committers decided to hold a
contest for a new logo?
As an artist here is how I see it: Beastie is a mascot, not a logo.
It's like having "Disney" with a Mickey Mouse. The logo is eith
* Bart Silverstrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0201 13:01]:
>
> On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
>
> >Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> >
> >>That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original
> >>debate.
> >
> >Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign.
>
> Ju
On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Greg Barniskis wrote:
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Out of curiosity, is Beastie so terrible, a logo, that a business
would be stupid enough to base their server decisions based on it?
Would you care if a business were that dumb...would you actually
*want* them using it?
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:53:17 -0600
Greg Barniskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bart Silverstrim wrote:
>
> > Out of curiosity, is Beastie so terrible, a logo, that a business would
> > be stupid enough to base their server decisions based on it? Would you
> > care if a business were that dumb.
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Here's a page (a NetBSD logo contest entry) which addresses many of
these concerns, and coincidentally underlines my point about the
daemon not being exclusive to FreeBSD:
http://homepage.mac.com/codesamurai/netbsd-logo-entry/
That is not bad. But is it sufficiently diffe
On 02/11/05 09:52 AM, Anthony Atkielski sat at the `puter and typed:
> Mike Hauber writes:
>
> > Heh... This gives me an idea... How about FreeBSD "skins." The
> > Beastie as the default (of course), and dis_ey-type themes for
> > the "weak in the faith". If FreeBSD's attempt is not to be
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Imagine Linux dropping Tux for some meanlingless, lifeless logo?
I'm glad you asked.
Tux is a mascot, not a logo. These are Linux logos:
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiccaldera.gif
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicdebian.gif
http://images.slashdot.org/to
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Out of curiosity, is Beastie so terrible, a logo, that a business would
be stupid enough to base their server decisions based on it? Would you
care if a business were that dumb...would you actually *want* them using
it?
The problem (from my point of view) really has a lo
On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original
debate.
Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign.
Just to sum up things as I understand it...
People want to change the logo from Beastie to
Mike Hauber writes:
> Heh... This gives me an idea... How about FreeBSD "skins." The
> Beastie as the default (of course), and dis_ey-type themes for
> the "weak in the faith". If FreeBSD's attempt is not to be
> offensive to anyone, anywhere, anytime, then perhaps it just
> needs to jump i
On Friday 11 February 2005 12:31 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> There can be only ONE 'flagship' logo just as there is only one
> company name in a conglomerate. But there is plenty of space
> for different subsidiary marks for the product.
>
> For example, Chevrolet, Buick, Saturn, these are all p
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original
> debate.
Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign.
--
Anthony
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