> hi folks...
>
> would someone please change the freedos download page so it includes a
>
> rawrite-compatible floppy image download? there are needs for that, me being
> one
> of them. floppies are not dead. also,
Excerpt from Rugxulo:
> DOS on modern IBM PC clones have too many hardware compatibility
> issues: power management, lack of networking (almost no packet
> drivers), no soundcard drivers (or even static libs), almost no USB
> support. It doesn't look like most hardware companies care enough to
>
from Charles Belhemeur:
> Well hopefully the multi-cores are true multi-taskers and you're
> getting the time savings you thing you are. You are definitely wasting
> time with the swapping function on single core CPUs. Its faster in
> single cores to just complete one task at a time, let a routin
from Rugxulo:
> I don't know if drive letter assignment is configurable. I'd doubt it.
> You might?? be able to adjust some things with certain (third-party?)
> tools, but I'm not sure offhand if that's a reasonable expectation.
> > What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7?
> I
from Rugxulo:
> DJGPP has no "Windows version". It's a pure DOS compiler only. There
> is no Windows support. None is in the works. None was ever made. (I'm
> aware of very very small and obscure and incomplete hacks like RSXNT,
> but those don't count. Or at least haven't counted, even unofficial
> https://isocpp.org/std/status
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> according to this, c++ is supposed to get a networking library.
> it might be from boost, but I don't know.
-
> Jim Michaels
Question is how networking will be implemented in FreeDOS.
There is also the problem of lack of DOS drivers for most wi
Excerpt from Eddie Anderson:
> Because FreeDOS lacks MouseKeys functionality (and because my
> PCs are old (and no longer reliably support mice)), I had to stop
> using many old programs for many years. Then I found DOSBox on
> Linux. Joy.
> MouseKeys let me use the keyboard to inpu
One thing I'd like to see in the next FreeDOS is a better installer.
Installer should be writable to a USB stick or be bootable and runnable from a
disk image; there is a rather outdated FreeDOS runnable quasi-floppy image on
the System Rescue CD, though this image has no installer.
I would lik
from Sparky4:
> I think the FreeDOS 2.0 version should be a updated 16 bit kernel that can
> run in real mode by default
> and the freedos-32 stuff should merge with OSFree
I thought of that, a 32-bit version of FreeDOS could take ideas/features from
OS/2 and eComStation.
I saw OS/2 as like a
Too much to quote here regarding BASIC interpreters and compilers, but one
BASIC compiler I remember is
Microsoft BASIC Professional Development System for DOS.
I don't think this is available any more, it was closed-source proprietary,
clearly not a candidate for inclusion in FreeDOS, but of h
from sparky4:
> since nobody is going to make the 16 bit port of fdnpkg then i will do it!
> also mburtman said that he will most likely not release any newer versions of
> mtcp
> I am very sad/mad about this!
When the first FreeDOS package installer/updater came out, it messed up on my
syste
from Rugxulo and my previous post:
> > On Mar 18, 2015 11:32 PM, "Thomas Mueller" wrote:
> > When the first FreeDOS package installer/updater came out,
> > it messed up on my system.
> > I hope you can do better!
> Always back up important files.
> &
There was a recent discussion on the upcoming FreeDOS 1.2, my question is how
will it boot.
Will it use Syslinux as FreeDOS 1.1 did, or will it boot directly from DOS
kernel?
Or maybe some other boot chooser?
Tom
from Eric Auer:
> Hi Tom and Jayden,
> as any other DOS, FreeDOS will boot using a boot sector
> which is part of a FAT (FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32) partition
> on your harddisk, SSD or other type of disk.
> Of course boot sectors are also very friendly for being
> booted from Syslinux, Lilo, Grub,
from Mercury Thirteen:
> Yes, they should be. I think they are all mostly the same as the GPL, but
> I'm not certain. For the time being, I'll just remove the closed source
> packages and leave all the public domain and source-freely-available
> programs. If there's an issue, I can always pull mor
I too would like to be able to install FreeDOS from a USB stick or from iso
image that could be booted from Syslinux, Grub4DOS or GRUB2.
I would likely install FreeDOS to USB stick.
I don't know yet how FreeDOS 1.2 will boot; Syslinux has the advantage of being
usable to boot other images/parti
> Hi, I might have been a little bit too enthusiastic before having
> actually tried the program. As it is now, I really don't see any use for
> it, hence I don't see any reason why it should be included in any
> distribution (be it FreeDOS or other). It's not really a game, since we
> can hardly
from Maarten Vermeulen:
> Why are we doing so difficult about something that somebody not want to
> do. It is his thing and we have two options:
> - using the old one.
> - search for another one.
> I don't want to be annoying but it is the case.
> Maarten
> Op 9 sep. 2015 06:57 schreef "Steve
from Jerome E. Shidel Jr.:
> Demo Video:
> https://www.facebook.com/jshidel/videos/10208019256868395/
> Hopefully, I will have some time tomorrow to finish up FDI and put a
> video up of what you see when switching to advanced mode.
Video wouldn't play for me because my system has no Adobe Fla
> What I mean is that if your computer is OLDER than 386
> then it does not make much sense to expect CD/DVD at
> all, so for such computers, a floppy distro is better.
Reading about a floppy distro raises one concern in my mind: reliability and
shelf life of floppies.
In later years, I could wr
from Jim Hall:
> I agree that the floppy case is an edge case. I am not too worried
> about that. From how I understand people using FreeDOS, most users are
> either installing FreeDOS on some modern machine ("I just bought a new
> machine, I'll install FreeDOS on the old one") or installing Free
Excerpt from Rugxulo:
> > Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such
> > as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-)
> Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone
> anymore. Most DJGPP stuff mandatorily has to be cross-compiled
> anyways, for vari
Excerpts from Eric Auer:
> if Mateusz' repository has "500 MB of packages", then that
> would make a good choice for ALL as far as I am concerned:
> It easily fits on a CD and you get plenty of DOS stuff :-)
> Also, it should fit on most USB sticks as well. Maybe you
> could make a list of the
> I just want to mention that I ported the GUI library FLTK to DOS. FLTK
> competes with GTK and has more features than anybody could write from
> scratch within years.
> Based on the FLTK library I wrote the XFDOS Desktop for FreeDOS.
> Anybody is most welcome to use FLTK for DOS to implement GU
Excerpt from Rugxulo:
> So that's bare minimum (not counting drivers / extensions like XMS or
> DPMI or mouse or ...).
> But, even then, FSF hates mentioning or linking to proprietary
> software, yet FreeDOS is meant to be binary compatible with as much
> legacy software as possible. So it's the
from Steve Nickolas:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Rugxulo wrote:
> > How?? I'm not even aware of any emulators that support such size.
> > (Maybe they do, I haven't checked much.) Even 720 kb might be barely
> > useful, but I don't know how to make/modify it (without physical
> > hardware).
>
Snippet from Eric Auer:
> OS/2 was a very sensible evolution of the MS DOS
> API spirit. So that could be part of the answer.
> And there are probably free open OS/2 clones :-)
There is a free open OS/2 clone-attempt at osfree.org .
They even now have a github site:
https://github.com/ErisBlast
Excerpt from Jerome Shidel:
> Requires only one local or remote machine running Linux and
> an internet connection to fetch packages and installer sources.
> (only OpenSUSE and Fedora supported at present)
> Uses the latest repo packages.
> Easily change USB stick sizes.
> Support for multi-langua
>From Dale E. Sterner:
> I've had problem getting cutemouse to work on some PCs.
> Try msmouse that is what I use when cutemouse doesn't
> work. As far as usb goes check your bios setting, there is
> often a bios setting for legacy OS so you can plug stuff
> into a usb port and it converts to ps2.
> > Yes, Maybe. We will have to see if demand dictates an additional
> > BOOT diskette.
> Let's face it, people will try the floppy distro on old, but
> less than 35 years old PC, create FAT32 partitions because
> their disk size asks for that, fail to format them, say only
> to themselves that F
> >> support still is larger and slower than a 386 kernel on 386, so
> >> you are just needlessly tempting 386+ owners to run extremely
> >> retro-compatible, less optimized kernels ;-) Also, FAT32 is not
> >> just a module which could easily be unloaded, it is the entire
> >> set of MS DOS 7.10 co
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