On 8/25/2022 4:44 AM, Carsten Strotmann wrote:
Hi,
On 25 Aug 2022, at 9:41, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and 32
bits programs...
the 64kb limit is an artificial limit in the source code of the "edit" tool:
On 8/25/2022 12:41 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and 32
bits programs...
Why there is no two separate versions of FreeDOS, one for 16 bits CPUs (8086)
and one for 32 bits CPU (386+)?
It seems there is a lot
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 00:21:52 +0200
tom ehlert wrote:
> I think even newbies should be given the chance to select from
>
>
> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/group-edit.html
It depends what you mean by "newbies". But if you mean
Hi tom,
> just remember that we had even the holy
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war
Sure, I know about the Emacs vs vi war. I tried Emacs more than vi,
because I found Org mode very interesting for managing my notes and such
stuff. It's only few years ago, but I can't remember any of
Hi Robert,
>>> But there are many good (and free)
>>> text editors available for DOS that can edit large text.
>>
>> True enough. and people have had time enough (it's 2022) to select one
> Not everbody is with DOS since the 1980s. There are still DOS newbies
> around from time to time.
Hallo Herr Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel,
am Donnerstag, 25. August 2022 um 15:41 schrieben Sie:
>
>>it's still beyond my understanding why you don't want to edit small
>>files with edit32
>>
>> Tom
> Well, because the full idea is more like:
> If file < 64k
> then edit.exe the file
Hi tom,
>> But there are many good (and free)
>> text editors available for DOS that can edit large text.
>
> True enough. and people have had time enough (it's 2022) to select one
Not everbody is with DOS since the 1980s. There are still DOS newbies
around from time to time.
> but none of
Hi Eric,
> for example SETEDIT is 32-bit and can edit large files,
> but maybe we should explicitly tell WHICH editors are
> 32-bit. To be honest, I do not know for several others.
At minimum these are 32-bit:
BLOCEK
EMACS
FED
MINED
VIM
Cheers,
Robert
--
BTTR Software
For what it's worth:
I have a 286 I still use. A 286 is enough for the Win95 version of
EDIT.COM (it uses some 186 opcodes), so that's usually what I go with.
It's still important to *me* to be able to support 8086 and 286 PCs. But
with that said, I've felt that that's best done by me
On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 16:43:41 +0200
tom ehlert wrote:
> if you own an XT, you have probably become used to an editor for the
> last 30 years on it. I don't see the point chosing another one.
>
> Tom
There are new XTs being sold (https://monotech.fwscart.com) and it's
kind of a trend these days
> On Aug 25, 2022, at 4:10 AM, Eric Auer wrote:
> [..]
>> It seems there is a lot of programs that cannot run on 8086...
>
> Those should be excluded in 8086 installs, but as far as
> I remember, at least one of the installers already pays
> attention to that. Mateusz and Jerome might know
> Besides the 64k limit, FreeDOS Edit is horrible to use on an XT.
> Compared to norton editor or edit.com, the drawing of the interface
> is so slow you can see it happening.
if you own an XT, you have probably become used to an editor for the last 30
years on it. I don't see the point
At first I thought that edit was
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/pkg-html/msedit.html
and realized it was a 32 bit program, written entirely in FreeBASIC.
I did not tried it... just thinking maybe on a 386+ system, we could use it...
and keep the
>it's still beyond my understanding why you don't want to edit small
>files with edit32
>
> Tom
Well, because the full idea is more like:
If file < 64k
then edit.exe the file
else (file > 64k)
if processor 386+
edit32 the file
else
error "sorry, file to big!"
endif
enfif
So
> But there are many good (and free)
> text editors available for DOS that can edit large text.
True enough. and people have had time enough (it's 2022) to select one
of them that suits their needs. and there are multiple (of varying
taste and quality) in FreeDOS and elsewhere.
but none of them
On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 03:41:30 -0400
Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16
> bits and 32 bits programs...
>
> Why there is no two separate versions of FreeDOS, one for 16 bits
> CPUs (8086) and one for 32 bits CPU (386+)?
>
>
Hi,
On 25 Aug 2022, at 13:50, Bitácora de Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro wrote:
> I do not think it will be that easy. It is probably hitting the 16 unsigned
> int range, and also accounting that large memory model only allows to
> allocate blocks of up to 64K (you are looking for huge).
yes, or
: Carsten Strotmann
Destinatario: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
Fecha: jueves, 25 de agosto de 2022, 13:44:08
Asunto: [Freedos-devel] Why there is no two versions of FreeDOS: 16 bits
and 32 bits?
Archivos
Hi,
On 25 Aug 2022, at 9:41, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
> While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and
> 32 bits programs...
>
the 64kb limit is an artificial limit in the source code of the "edit" tool:
> Would it be possible to have edit.exe for 64k less files...
> edit32.exe for bigger files...
absolutely yes. just copy setedit.exe to edit32.exe. done.
> and edit.bat that would check fif the
> requested file to edit is bigger than 64k and then call edit32 on
> the file, else edit.exe on the
Hi,
On 25 Aug 2022, at 11:07, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
> Would it be possible to have edit.exe for 64k less files... edit32.exe for
> bigger files... and edit.bat that would check fif the requested file to edit
> is bigger than 64k and then call edit32 on the file, else edit.exe
Would it be possible to have edit.exe for 64k less files... edit32.exe for
bigger files... and edit.bat that would check fif the requested file to edit is
bigger than 64k and then call edit32 on the file, else edit.exe on the file?___
Freedos-devel
Le jeu., 25 août 2022 04:10:17 -0400 Eric Auer a écrit
> That is not necessary - you mentioned a 32-bit version
> of some text editor, which already IS included :-) See
>
> http://freedos.org/software/ ==>
>
>
Hi Paul,
While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and 32
bits programs...
Why there is no two separate versions of FreeDOS, one for 16 bits CPUs (8086)
and one for 32 bits CPU (386+)?
That is not necessary - you mentioned a 32-bit version
of some text
Hello Paul,
On 25 Aug 2022, at 9:41, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
> While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and
> 32 bits programs...
>
> Why there is no two separate versions of FreeDOS, one for 16 bits CPUs (8086)
> and one for 32 bits CPU (386+)?
>
While thinking about 64k limit for edit... I come to think about 16 bits and 32
bits programs...
Why there is no two separate versions of FreeDOS, one for 16 bits CPUs (8086)
and one for 32 bits CPU (386+)?
It seems there is a lot of programs that cannot run on 8086... and others that
could
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