Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > And how big would the 3 largest packages in that ramdisk be? Which 3 > > packages? > > I don’t know off-hand. But, things like FPC & DJGPP are enormous. > However, both of thos

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 6:49 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On Mar 8, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > As DOS barely supports any overlay stuff, another question would be > > which FreeDOS packages work directly from read-only media. > > My guess is: MOST will! > > I agree that most

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
c-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/ You can go straight to the latest version info for a package by just tacking on the package name.html like https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/aefdi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Thanks for the package list pointers! :-) > All release specific settings are in that > https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/SETTINGS > Boot floppies are PKG_FDI.LST with files and directories > in CLEANUP.LST removed. > PKG_BASE is what is installed with BASE Base: The classic mix of Fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Mar 9, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> LiveCD1 size is flexible... > > Looking at your links (PS: typo "intalled") the current :-) I’ll have to fix that. > list seems to be, in that order: > > BASE, FDI, grep/head/du/sleep/tee/touch/which/less/trch/

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > LiveCD1 size is flexible... Looking at your links (PS: typo "intalled") the current list seems to be, in that order: BASE, FDI, grep/head/du/sleep/tee/touch/which/less/trch/md5sum, crc32, slowdown, doslfn, part, xfdisk, xdel, xkeyb, raread, rawrite, edict, fdtui, fdnet, wget, links

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Mar 9, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > questions about the dynamic size semi-live CD, which are > the minimum amounts of memory for which package sets? > > You say with 24 MB you get a system, then at some point > you get BASE, much later FULL or even EX

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, questions about the dynamic size semi-live CD, which are the minimum amounts of memory for which package sets? You say with 24 MB you get a system, then at some point you get BASE, much later FULL or even EXTRA? So I would like to know the RAM size thresholds for those :-) [LiveCD1 w

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Mar 9, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, thanks for the insights :-) Your welcome. > > So what is the combined size of all "programs which have settings > or high scores" which the user would like to be updated? Remember > that high scores in ramdisk are lost

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, thanks for the insights :-) So what is the combined size of all "programs which have settings or high scores" which the user would like to be updated? Remember that high scores in ramdisk are lost at reboot anyway and it is possible that games just continue without error when they fai

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Mar 8, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Louis, > >> Do you mean something like the SHSU* Image/ISO to RAMDrive utils [0][1][2] >> when you said, " If we had a driver that could directly use CD/DVD media >> like a hard drive and cache changes to RAM, then things could be diffe

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 - live CD versus RAM requirements

2019-03-08 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Louis, > Do you mean something like the SHSU* Image/ISO to RAMDrive utils [0][1][2] > when you said, " If we had a driver that could directly use CD/DVD media > like a hard drive and cache changes to RAM, then things could be different > and possibly even better"? The problem is the CACHE C

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-03-08 Thread Louis Santillan
ably just > > don't get it. > > Wow. > > Did you try either? > > Maybe it’s me. But, I see no deviation in your quoted definition of a > LiveCD and the two LiveCDs for 1.3-RC1. > > There are other possible ways to do a LiveCD. For example.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-03-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
AM, then things could be different and possibly even better. But we don’t. I have far to many things on my plate to write one. Are you volunteering to create one? > > Tom > > Jerome > > _______ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > ht

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-03-01 Thread Tom Ehlert
> This one was me. I was able to use LiveCD2 on QEMU to boot and install > FreeDOS 1.3 RC1. When I suggested that FreeDOS 1.3 should contain a LiveCD, I had something more useful in mind than the thing that materialized now; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD 'A live CD (also live DVD, li

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-12 Thread Jerome Shidel
18 build (which, as far as I know, is the latest for >>> windows). >>> >>> I've compiled a more recent version in Linux; but I wouldn't use that >>> for testing because it's inside of a virtual machine (wh

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Andy Stamp
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:34 PM Andy Stamp wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 6:32 PM Random Liegh via Freedos-devel < > freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Hi, thanks for replying. >> >> On 2/11/2019 11:17 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Andy Stamp
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 6:32 PM Random Liegh via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi, thanks for replying. > > On 2/11/2019 11:17 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > >> On Feb 11, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-devel < >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Random Liegh via Freedos-devel
Hi, thanks for replying. On 2/11/2019 11:17 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Feb 11, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-devel wrote: I just tried to boot FD13LGCY in virtualbox and got (what is to me) the weirdest error: https://imgur.com/a/EENC2Xf (screenshot) As a user, I would expec

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Jerome Shidel
;> Make sure you download them, try them out, and let us know your thoughts. >> Because 1 of them will be discontinued with RC2. >> >> >> >> >> _______ >> Freedos-devel mailing list >> Freedos-devel@lists.sourcefor

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Random Liegh via Freedos-devel
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-11 Thread Jim Hall
ackages. > > The USB image worked fine. > -- > Hilsen Harald > > > I hope that helps. > > Jerome > _______ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > _

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
e normal data portion of the disc was not accessible with the supplied CD/DVD driver as configured. As far as I know, the supplied driver works under QEMU. So, I’m not sure what’s causing your issue. > -- > Hilsen Harald > > ________

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-10 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jerome Shidel [10.02.2019 17:39]: > Hi again, in regards to using LiveCD2 with QEMU this is what I’ve been told… > > LiveCD2 booted up just fine, even with an unpartitioned C: drive. This > is what I did: > > > $ qemu-system-i386 -m 256 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw > sb16,adlib,pcspk -

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi again, in regards to using LiveCD2 with QEMU this is what I’ve been told… LiveCD2 booted up just fine, even with an unpartitioned C: drive. This is what I did: $ qemu-system-i386 -m 256 -k en-us -rtc base=localtime -soundhw sb16,adlib,pcspk -device cirrus-vga -display gtk -boot order=d -hda

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jerome Shidel [09.02.2019 16:50]: > CD2 is probably more compatible (CD1 doesn’t run under QEMU). It needs 128mb > of ram. More RAM is unused. It requires a good chunk of real estate on the CD > (50mb). But, it starts a little faster too. I couldn't get any of the CDs to run under QEMU. Both bo

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi everyone, We really do want to hear your opinions on which LiveCD we should keep. They both have very specific advantages and disadvantages. Just to pick a couple. CD1 can run with 64MB of ram and can use GBs. It also uses very little space on the CD. CD2 is probably more compatible (CD1 d

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-05 Thread Ivan Ivanov
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[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

2019-02-03 Thread Jerome Shidel
In case you haven’t heard. FreeDOS 1.3-RC1 is now out. More info on www.freedos.org. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy is working as a part of coreboot SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image

2019-01-19 Thread Ivan Ivanov
could cost another $50 . Also there are 3 >> > versions regarding the discrete GPU: only integrated HD 8650G (from >> > A10-5750M) , that integrated + discrete HD 8570M , that integrated + >> > discrete R5 M230 . R5 M230 is about 4% faster

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy is working as a part of coreboot SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image

2019-01-10 Thread Louis Santillan
st > > 1600MHz CL9 while discrete will always have its' own slower 1333MHz > > CL9 / 1600MHz CL11 ) - "with discrete" versions have two heatsinks > > instead of one so your CPU is cooling better. > > > > Best regards, > > Ivan Ivanov, > > open source firmware developer > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy is working as a part of coreboot SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image

2019-01-09 Thread Ivan Ivanov
If you've a Q about putting FreeDOS inside opensource coreboot BIOS, or any other coreboot-related questions, please let me know :) And btw there is a coreboot supported motherboards page available чт, 3 янв. 2019 г. в 13:01, Ivan Ivanov : > > Really happy I am to tell you : FreeDOS floppy is work

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy is working as a part of coreboot SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image

2019-01-03 Thread Ivan Ivanov
Really happy I am to tell you : FreeDOS floppy is working perfectly as a part of coreboot+SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image ! ( inside Lenovo G505S quadcore AMD A10-5750M based laptop with 16GB RAM installed ) . After you build coreboot, it's super easy to add a floppy of any supported size (1.44MB/2.8

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] aefdisk/masterbooter open sourced

2018-12-27 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hello My Friends, First of all, hope you all had a great christmas time! On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 16:17, TK Chia wrote: > > Hello Jerome, hello Geraldo, > > >> Seems to require borland c/tasm > > Unfortunately, aefdisk won’t compile under TASM 4.1. > > Tried. But, It throws a couple errors and warn

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] aefdisk/masterbooter open sourced

2018-12-20 Thread TK Chia
Hello Jerome, hello Geraldo, Seems to require borland c/tasm Unfortunately, aefdisk won’t compile under TASM 4.1. Tried. But, It throws a couple errors and warnings. This is interesting. It seems the aefdisk sources are using some strange syntax extensions which I have not seen before --- p

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3 have been released

2018-12-09 Thread Mark Olesen
gitlab.com/ercanersoy/FreeDOS-TUI-Shell > > > What do you think for FreeDOS TUI Shell? > > > Best regards, > Ercan > > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sou

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3 have been released

2018-12-09 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Hello, I have released FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3. FreeDOS TUI Shell is DOSSHELL command. It includes a file manager internal application and running command internal application. Short changelog of FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3: - It have been relicensed GNU GPL v2 and GNU GPL v3. - Source file has been

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages (updated)

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Hall
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 7:05 PM Jim Hall > * red (do not include) >> >> 1. Archivers/lha On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 7:24 PM Rugxulo wrote: > Again, I'm pretty sure those sources came from Debian. Is that not good > enough? Must have missed your note about that in your other email. I'll go back and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages (updated)

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Hall
FYI: I have removed Harald's Tail from ibiblio, and updated the wiki page to reflect that. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 10:43 AM Harald Arnesen TK Chia [13/11/2018 15.12]: > > > Hello Jim, hello Harald, > > > > > FYI: I've posted Harald's port of GNU Tail on our ibiblio archive. You > > > can find it at > > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/tail/c/ > > > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-13 Thread Harald Arnesen
TK Chia [13/11/2018 15.12]: > Hello Jim, hello Harald, > > > FYI: I've posted Harald's port of GNU Tail on our ibiblio archive. You > > can find it at > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/tail/c/ > > > > Thanks! > > Apologies for the late note --- but can we c

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-13 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hallo Herr TK Chia, am Dienstag, 13. November 2018 um 15:12 schrieben Sie: > Hello Jim, hello Harald, >> FYI: I've posted Harald's port of GNU Tail on our ibiblio archive. You >> can find it at > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/tail/c/ >> >> Thanks! > Apol

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-13 Thread TK Chia
Hello Jim, hello Harald, > FYI: I've posted Harald's port of GNU Tail on our ibiblio archive. You > can find it at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/unix/tail/c/ > > Thanks! Apologies for the late note --- but can we confirm that the posted code is indeed from the G

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-13 Thread thraex
On 11.11.2018 02:32 Jim Hall wrote: > Thanks, that's very helpful! > > I'll update USBDOS to be green. :-) It's pretty clear the current requirements make this application non free (see below), so shouldn't it be marked as red instead? > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:30 PM Bret Johnson wrote: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages (updated)

2018-11-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 7:05 PM Jim Hall > WHAT I NEED FROM YOU: > > - If you disagree with the status of any of these, please comment in a > reply > > Summary of the yellow and red items: > > * red (do not include) > > 1. Archivers/lha > Again, I'm pretty sure those sources came from Debian.

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages (updated)

2018-11-12 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone Based on notes that you all have provided in the discussion here, I have updated the Releases/1.3/Packages page on the wiki. A bunch of programs are now listed green that were yellow or even red previously. Thanks for your comments. The list is at http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.ph

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Jim Hall
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 2:24 PM Steve Nickolas On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Rugxulo wrote: However, AFAIK, "OpenDOS" (kernel and shell only) is "sources available, non-commercial only". So not exactly free/libre, but at least it's not illegal. That's what EDR-DO

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 2:24 PM Steve Nickolas On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Rugxulo wrote: > > > However, AFAIK, "OpenDOS" (kernel and shell only) is "sources > > available, non-commercial only". So not exactly free/libre, but at > > least it's not illegal. That's what EDR-DOS is based upon. Those are

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Rugxulo wrote: However, AFAIK, "OpenDOS" (kernel and shell only) is "sources available, non-commercial only". So not exactly free/libre, but at least it's not illegal. That's what EDR-DOS is based upon. Those are still available via WayBack (Web Archive). Maybe you already k

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018, François Revol wrote: > > > Nice to see some retro people interested in legal issues :-) > > Which reminds me... > > The other day I was looking for assistance in cleanrooming some pieces of > MS-DOS 2.11 and 3.x s

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Jim, On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:55 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:03 AM Rugxulo wrote: > > lincrawl ... (aka, Linley's Dungeon Crawl) is something I used to play > [..] > > relicensed to GPLv2+." I know that's not exactly the same as saying > > the old game is GPL now, but it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-11 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018, François Revol wrote: Nice to see some retro people interested in legal issues :-) Which reminds me... The other day I was looking for assistance in cleanrooming some pieces of MS-DOS 2.11 and 3.x so that I had an option for systems where FreeDOS might be less than idea

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-11 Thread François Revol
Hi, Le 07/11/2018 à 16:01, Rugxulo a écrit : > Hi, Jim, > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:50 PM Jim Hall wrote: >> >> I have been working to create a list of packages for FreeDOS 1.3. >> >> I mentioned back in June (as part of a discussion thread about "Removing >> non-free packages") >> that I woul

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-11 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim, >> (Meh, non-commercial isn't great, but alas, without further >> clarification, that's probably a no-go for us.) > > Yup, requiring that the program *cannot* be sold (non-commercial only) > is a no-go. But for games, I think it's easy to swap out whatever we > want, these programs are no

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-11 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim, >> doslfn ... not sure if it's free/libre, but it's widely used. Of >> course, there are other alternatives, too, of varying quality (e.g. >> StarLFN). At least VFAT/LFN is finally unpatented nowadays (I think?). >> Again, you may have to contact the (inactive) maintainer for >> clarificat

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:03 AM Rugxulo wrote: > lincrawl ... (aka, Linley's Dungeon Crawl) is something I used to play [..] > relicensed to GPLv2+." I know that's not exactly the same as saying > the old game is GPL now, but it's close. You'd have to email them > directly to fully clarify, most li

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:28 PM Jim Hall wrote: > As Eric pointed out, that's not the author's website. [..] Oops, that was Robert not Eric. Jim ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
> On at 2018-11-05 18:01 +, Bret Johnson wrote: > > Being the author of two of the items mentioned (USBDOS & SLOWDOWN), I can > > say that there is no problem in including them with FreeDOS. SLOWDOWN is a > > much older program than USBDOS, and the licensing and even my opinions of > > what

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
o anybody who wants it (although > some of it is quite messy) as long as they "keep it free". > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-d

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:13 AM Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > > 3. Development/TPPATCH > wiki comment>>> no source code, no license text > > http://www.ipnet6.org/tppatch.html > > the comments make it pretty clear that the author wants to give this > away for free; just without gnuish legalese. I cons

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:18 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Jim Hall wrote: > > > 1. Emulators/MEKA > > wiki comment>> License is unclear. The website says "MEKA is a free > > software distributed under a BSD-like license, allowing you to browse > > and reuse sources and data with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-10 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi again, Jim, > > Just for completeness > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:01 AM Rugxulo wrote: > > > > Of course, there are many other Invaders clones > > (e.g. one ported from QBASIC to XPL0 > > * http://www.xpl0.org/INVADERS.ZIP > > " > This g

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018, Rugxulo wrote: (Or maybe we need to finally add full LFN support into the kernel by default?) This is what I'd do, if I could do it. Although I'd see why some people might be averse to the idea. -uso. ___ Freedos-devel maili

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, Jim, Just for completeness On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:01 AM Rugxulo wrote: > > Of course, there are many other Invaders clones > (e.g. one ported from QBASIC to XPL0 * http://www.xpl0.org/INVADERS.ZIP " This game is freeware. That is, it's free to use and distribute anywhere you l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:02 AM Joe Forster/STA wrote: > > > doslfn ... not sure if it's free/libre, but it's widely used. Of > > course, there are other alternatives, too, of varying quality (e.g. > > StarLFN). > > There's no able alternative for DOSLFN. > Honestly, I think we can't afford t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Joe Forster/STA
Hi guys, doslfn ... not sure if it's free/libre, but it's widely used. Of course, there are other alternatives, too, of varying quality (e.g. StarLFN). There's no able alternative for DOSLFN. (StarLFN isn't one as it doesn't actually support VFAT, only storing long filenames in a file per di

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, Jim, On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:10 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > And there are these programs that I think should not be included in > FreeDOS 1.3, and I marked those in red. I know we've included some of > these in previous releases, but I don't think the licenses are really > that free or open

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Jim, On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:50 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I have been working to create a list of packages for FreeDOS 1.3. > > I mentioned back in June (as part of a discussion thread about "Removing > non-free packages") > that I would like FreeDOS 1.3 to be as "open source" as possible. > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-06 Thread TK Chia
Hello Mr. Jim Hall, I'd appreciate a discussion here about these programs and my evaluations of their licenses. Especially the ones in red ("no") or yellow ("maybe"). Do you agree with the decisions here? What are your thoughts on the ones I marked in yellow? Thank you for the work! I would j

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Tom, >> 3. Development/TPPATCH > wiki comment>>> no source code, no license text > > http://www.ipnet6.org/tppatch.html > > the comments make it pretty clear that the author wants to give this > away for free; just without gnuish legalese. I consider this free, no > strings attached. Wha

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-05 Thread C. Masloch
On at 2018-11-05 18:01 +, Bret Johnson wrote: > Being the author of two of the items mentioned (USBDOS & SLOWDOWN), I can say > that there is no problem in including them with FreeDOS. SLOWDOWN is a much > older program than USBDOS, and the licensing and even my opinions of what the > licen

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-05 Thread Bret Johnson
Being the author of two of the items mentioned (USBDOS & SLOWDOWN), I can say that there is no problem in including them with FreeDOS. SLOWDOWN is a much older program than USBDOS, and the licensing and even my opinions of what the licensing should be have changed over the years. What I want i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-05 Thread Tom Ehlert
> 3. Development/TPPATCH wiki comment>>> no source code, no license text http://www.ipnet6.org/tppatch.html the comments make it pretty clear that the author wants to give this away for free; just without gnuish legalese. I consider this free, no strings attached. > 4. Utilities/4DOS wik

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-04 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Jim Hall wrote: 1. Emulators/MEKA wiki comment>> License is unclear. The website says "MEKA is a free software distributed under a BSD-like license, allowing you to browse and reuse sources and data with no restrictions." The sources.txt file includes a license that is unclea

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-04 Thread Jim Hall
Jim Hall wrote: > > I'd appreciate a discussion here about these programs and my > > evaluations of their licenses. Especially the ones in red ("no") or > > yellow ("maybe"). Do you agree with the decisions here? What are > > your thoughts on the ones I marked in yellow? Tom Ehlert wrote: > all

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-04 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Tom Ehlert wrote: > > Hi, [ I'll reply to the other stuff in a separate email ] > > kernel/freecom > **Note: Bart has a new version, should check if that's stable to include in > FreeDOS 1.3 > > shouldn't this be the other way round? release after bugs are fixed

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-04 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jim Hall [11/4/18 12:49 AM]: > I'd appreciate a discussion here about these programs and my evaluations > of their licenses. Especially the ones in red ("no") or yellow > ("maybe"). Do you agree with the decisions here? What are your thoughts > on the ones I marked in yellow? "tail.c" from GNU co

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-04 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hi, > I'd appreciate a discussion here about these programs and my > evaluations of their licenses. Especially the ones in red ("no") or > yellow ("maybe"). Do you agree with the decisions here? What are > your thoughts on the ones I marked in yellow? all these programs/licenses have been 'free

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.3 list of packages

2018-11-03 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone I have been working to create a list of packages for FreeDOS 1.3. I mentioned back in June (as part of a discussion thread about "Removing non-free packages") that I would like FreeDOS 1.3 to be as "open source" as possible. But FreeDOS is very old (1994) and at that time, even the GN

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 2:53 PM Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > One thing about coding style (it does not affect you - just something > > that I noticed when reading code): > > You have put your main() at the end. I want to get an overview of what > > happens. I start scrolling down, but still reading

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-28 Thread Tom Ehlert
>> What do you think for FreeDOS TUI Shell? > Apart from that I can't say something, because there is no point for me > in using a dosshell. I am in a big-love-relationship with norton > commander for so long now ;) +1 besides, Volkow commander is a vey good (or better) Norton clone.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-24 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:52:31 -0400, Steve Nickolas wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, stecdose wrote: > >> One thing about coding style (it does not affect you - just something >> that I noticed when reading code): >> You have put your main() at the end. I want to get an overview of what >> happens. I

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-24 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, stecdose wrote: One thing about coding style (it does not affect you - just something that I noticed when reading code): You have put your main() at the end. I want to get an overview of what happens. I start scrolling down, but still reading from line 1. I want to see mai

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-24 Thread stecdose
What do you think for FreeDOS TUI Shell? I had a long long look at the sources, as they almost read like spoken english and they are very easy to understand. They showed me a lot of "how to do XY". Apart from that I can't say something, because there is no point for me in using a do

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

2018-09-24 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Hello everyone, I released FreeDOS TUI Shell version 0.2. FreeDOS TUI Shell is DOSSHELL command. It includes a file manager internal application and running command internal application. Changes of version 0.2: - Disabled menuitem foreground color have changed to grey on "FDOSTUI.INI".

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro
tion. > > Mateusz > -- > FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos > > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > _

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 14:40:13 +, Mateusz Viste wrote: > But given your answer I assume it is simply not a 16-bit application. ...and indeed, trying to run it ends up with an immediate error message: Load error: no DPMI - Get csdpmi*b.zip Hence this is definitely not a 16-bit application. M

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:05:19 +0200, Olivier de Lannoy (free) wrote: > 2) About memory capacity, testing for FreeDos was realized with this > setup: > LapTop, Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU @ 2.30GHz with 8GB Memory I suggest 2GB > Memory at least (for BMP image size < 2Mo) but no problem for 16bits > run

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread stecdose
ists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Freedos-devel@lists.source

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Olivier de Lannoy (free)
on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos >> >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-devel mailing list >> Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >> > > > > > __

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread stecdose
USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel _______

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Olivier de Lannoy (free)
___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:30:24 +0200, Olivier de Lannoy (free) wrote: > Shapix is a freeware (free on charge). See http://www.shapix.org for > more information. It is unclear from the license if it allows redistribution. And if so, can it be in a modified (repackaged) form? Could you clarify? Also

[Freedos-devel] FreeDos freeware in graphical field

2018-09-23 Thread Olivier de Lannoy (free)
Hi, I just like to tell you about Shapix, this is an new graphical application running under Windows, Linux, FreeBSD and *FreeDos (16bits)*. The objective of the software is to increase quality of BMP pictures (may options are available) in command mode. The first US version of Shapix was created

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS wiki is temporarily offline

2018-09-19 Thread Jim Hall
Hi everyone An FYI that wiki.freedos.org is temporarily offline. *The short story is this:* Last month, I moved the website to a new host provider, at Dreamhost, but left DNS at my previous third-party DNS hosting service. I set up a " wiki.freedos.org" at Dreamhost, with the intention to eventua

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

2018-07-13 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Since this is a TUI, it would be good to include a screenshot of it on your Github or GitLab sites. That way, people can see what it looks like, and decide if they want to try it out. Thanks, I added a screenshot on "README.md". Best regards, Ercan ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

2018-07-13 Thread Jim Hall
Since this is a TUI, it would be good to include a screenshot of it on your Github or GitLab sites. That way, people can see what it looks like, and decide if they want to try it out. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 9:57 AM Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > Hello, > > I have worked FreeDOS TUI Shell. > > FreeDOS T

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

2018-07-13 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Hello, I have worked FreeDOS TUI Shell. FreeDOS TUI Shell is a TUI shell for FreeDOS. It includes file manager and run executable files. FreeDOS TUI Shell is "DOSSHELL.EXE" for FreeDOS. FreeDOS TUI Shell is licensed under GNU General Public License version 3. FreeDOS TUI Shell has written b

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