Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-07 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 7-8-2011 17:24, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: >> Just the abort/retry/fail dialogue. > > Yeah, that's the critical error handler. > >> Doesn't seem to be a way out if you >> offer a PAUSE (and control-C to get to console) but only load ramdrive >> after USB drivers. > > What do you mean by "doe

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-07 Thread cm
> Just the abort/retry/fail dialogue. Yeah, that's the critical error handler. > Doesn't seem to be a way out if you > offer a PAUSE (and control-C to get to console) but only load ramdrive > after USB drivers. What do you mean by "doesn't seem to be a way out" ? Regards, Christian -

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-06 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 6-8-2011 14:44, dos386 schreef: > BTW, I had IIRC seen a GUI FreeDOS installer back in 2005 ? 2004 > in 0.9 ? 0.8 distros. NO, I don't recommend those distros ... You're correct, it was removed for beta9 or FD1.0 due to some bugs/issues to my knowledge. Still waiting for Jim to come up with t

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-06 Thread dos386
BTW, I had IIRC seen a GUI FreeDOS installer back in 2005 ? 2004 in 0.9 ? 0.8 distros. NO, I don't recommend those distros ... -- BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-06 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 6-8-2011 12:23, Georg Potthast schreef: > Rugxulo's bare bone floppy had too much meat for my application so I reduced > it further and added my DOSUSB driver files including a test file of 969k. > But it is a 20MB hard disk emulation. Was just wondering why you didn't go with straight floppy e

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-06 Thread Georg Potthast
@Christian: the autoexec.bat on my Live-CD does "devload usbdisk.sys" and then "xmsdsk.exe". So there are apparently no "redirector (for example, *CDEX) CDS entries" when usbdisk.sys is loaded. @Travis: The CD and its ISOLinux do not include speech drivers, so I see no reason for automatic sele

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 23:35, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: > Eww. What caused the crash? The DOS kernel should gracefully abort > attempts to write to read-only media. (It probably would raise a critical > error, but it shouldn't crash.) Or does the BIOS crash on attempts to > write to the disk with the Int

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread cm
> Just what I tried last night. Trying DIR > OUT.TXT already crashed the > entire thing due to C: being emulated harddisk(-partition) on CD-ROM, > and thus by definition read-only. Eww. What caused the crash? The DOS kernel should gracefully abort attempts to write to read-only media. (It probably

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread cm
>> Wait for the DEVLOAD developers to release a version (3.24?) with >> that bug fixed. > > Regarding the drive letters and devload: I do not think this is a bug in > devload here. On my Live-CDs I use devload in the autoexec.bat file and it > assigns a new drive letter just fine. There is definit

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread Travis Siegel
As regards the time out issue, before continuing, I understand the argument against selecting anything, and just letting the end-user choose one after they've gotten around to it. However, I would strongly discourage this behavior, since many folks expect the machine to choose a default, a

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 19:45, Georg Potthast schreef: > > I am a bit overwhelmed by the discussion following my post. I will try to > address some points. Just a quick possible issue: what happens if you boot the offered ISO from USB CD? As the HDD emulation part is read-only, while your USB drivers reset

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 5-8-2011 19:45, Georg Potthast schreef: > > I am a bit overwhelmed by the discussion following my post. I will try to > address some points. hehe, the discussion was already going, just added our contributions to your feedback as well. DOS386 also had some very usefull feedback that I'll have

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-05 Thread Georg Potthast
I am a bit overwhelmed by the discussion following my post. I will try to address some points. In my opinion the CD should be easily usable by first-time FreeDOS users and not only by experienced DOS developers. This is the view I had when testing the CD. Bernd Blaauw schreef: ;-) >The idea i

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-8-2011 14:19, dos386 schreef: > Definitely. I'd prefer to see no Linux and no ReactOR is > FreeDOS distros. BTW, the ReactOR on the FreeDOS > floppy is even able to B.S. ;-) BS? :) I'll do a SYS A: /BOOTONLY /K KERNEL.SYS for the next floppy to disable the menu (enable by SYS A: /BOOTONLY /

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-8-2011 12:03, dos386 schreef: >> Maybe it would be better to have NO *emm* style driver loaded by defaul > > + 1 > > Definitely. The is absolutely no reason to load it. Technically there's no reason whatsoever to load any memory driver, as long as programs can still load/run. My intention wa

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-04 Thread dos386
> I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard > disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by > booting a version of Linux first. + 1 Definitely. I'd prefer to see no Linux and no ReactOR is FreeDOS distros. BTW, the ReactOR on the Fre

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-04 Thread dos386
> > When I select "Use FreeDOS as LiveCD system.." and have a Flash disk > > inserted, the El-Torito Bootable CD-Rom driver results in the error: > > "JemmEX: exception 0D occured". > That is the good old general protection fault (GPF) :-D > that you also know from Windows. VMM32.VXD brewed a GP

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread cm
> Blockdevices seem to have a \NUL > device associated for each drive. I think it's a shortcoming of the redirector interface or implementation if/when/that character devices do not show up in redirected directories. Function 2F.1223 appears to be intended to allow the redirector to detect charact

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-8-2011 0:46, c...@bttr-software.de schreef: > > In any case, it shouldn't be too hard. There might be some difficult > corner cases, but there's implementations of CDS scanning available which > do work well enough, for example, SHSUCDX's. Nice challenge to test against SHSUCDX, MSCDEX, SUBST

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread cm
> earlier in the thread, people said it is hard to find out > which drive letters are used in a fool-proof way... Where? In any case, it shouldn't be too hard. There might be some difficult corner cases, but there's implementations of CDS scanning available which do work well enough, for example,

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread cm
> 3.23 should be the next version unless I missed one. Right. Messed that one up. > I hope to have a test version by this weekend, my current > code isn't ready for others yet. Looking forward to that. Regards, Christian -

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread cm
> That is the good old general protection fault (GPF) that you also know > from Windows. Maybe it would be better to have NO *emm* style driver > loaded by default, as those tend to be hard for "one size fits all" > configurations. Modern BIOSes and other hardware and firmware fail to > announce re

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-8-2011 23:05, Georg Potthast schreef: > I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard > disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by > booting a version of Linux first. I did my LifeCDs with FreeDOS just as an > El-Torito hard disk w

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jeremy, earlier in the thread, people said it is hard to find out which drive letters are used in a fool-proof way... Also, I will not have "DOS time" for the rest of this week - so if you can come up with something magic, you are welcome. Thanks, Eric :-) >>> ... Now, when I load DOSUSB an

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-8-2011 23:05, Georg Potthast schreef: > I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard > disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by > booting a version of Linux first. I did my LifeCDs with FreeDOS just as an > El-Torito hard disk w

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Aug 3, 2011 5:27 PM, wrote: > > > ... Now, when I load DOSUSB and then "devload usbdisk.sys" the > > block device driver usbdisk.sys will get the drive letter F: from > > FreeDOS. Apparently it does not supply the next drive letter which > > would be G:. I can then access the flash disk as F:,

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Georg, > I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard > disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by > booting a version of Linux first. Isolinux is not Linux. Isolinux is a boot menu which, among other things, has the ability to

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread cm
> ... Now, when I load DOSUSB and then "devload usbdisk.sys" the > block device driver usbdisk.sys will get the drive letter F: from > FreeDOS. Apparently it does not supply the next drive letter which > would be G:. I can then access the flash disk as F:, but "FD11Setup" > is gone. If you use DEV

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-03 Thread Georg Potthast
I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by booting a version of Linux first. I did my LifeCDs with FreeDOS just as an El-Torito hard disk with 10MB. Then I have to mention that I cannot

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 2-8-2011 14:28, dos386 schreef: > [-1.] it does install files (with some luck) but doesn't update the > bootsector, attempt to launch my new FreeDOS ends up > in "NTLDR missing" > > [0.] (see shot) "no persistent changes possible" is strange > > [1.] (see shot) should be "volume"

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 2-8-2011 14:28, dos386 schreef: > Test of "1.1test3" CD : > > http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fd11t3.png Now that's some quite usable feedback, thank you very much DOS386. > > Issues: > > [-3.] many messages running over the screen but too fast to read Yeah file info from LSM files is displa

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-08-02 Thread dos386
Test of "1.1test3" CD : http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fd11t3.png Issues: [-3.] many messages running over the screen but too fast to read [-2.] not prominently documented what's going to be installed (for example "FreeDOS distro 1.1test3 2011-07-10 with kernel 2040 2011-06-26 and

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 28-7-2011 4:02, Jim Michaels schreef: > >> is there a way you can selectively choose what parts you want to >> install? like >> "select all" but uncheck arachne, lynx, and bobcat? >> >> could you add cURL for DOS? > > Currently used ol

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 28-7-2011 4:30, Jim Michaels schreef: > >> and cdrtools for dos? > > http://sites.google.com/site/blairdude/cdrkit  contains CDRKIT v1.1.9 > I'm not aware of any recent DOS CDRTOOLS ports. Old one is 2.01 > ( http://bootcd.narod.ru/ind

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 28-7-2011 4:30, Jim Michaels schreef: > and cdrtools for dos? http://sites.google.com/site/blairdude/cdrkit contains CDRKIT v1.1.9 I'm not aware of any recent DOS CDRTOOLS ports. Old one is 2.01 ( http://bootcd.narod.ru/index_e.htm), with CDRTOOLS 3.00 already having been announced. Trouble

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 28-7-2011 4:02, Jim Michaels schreef: > is there a way you can selectively choose what parts you want to > install? like > "select all" but uncheck arachne, lynx, and bobcat? > > could you add cURL for DOS? Currently used old installer is still selective, though through a lot of user interacti

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Michaels
TiB.  computer memory (RAM) is measured in MiB and GiB. > >From: Jim Michaels >To: "freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" >Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released &g

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS 1.1 test ISO (#3) released

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Michaels
is there a way you can selectively choose what parts you want to install?  like "select all" but uncheck arachne, lynx, and bobcat? could you add cURL for DOS?   - Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com j...@jimscomputerrepairandwebdesign.com http://