Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-11 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 01:19, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > Well, this will be a spoiler of the "Unauthorized Windows95" :) > > Better read the book if you can, but here you go a summary. > > I write it to try and clarify some misunderstandin

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-11 Thread Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
> Well, this will be a spoiler of the "Unauthorized Windows95" :) > Better read the book if you can, but here you go a summary. > I write it to try and clarify some misunderstandings on VxDs and why I > think they are great. Wow that was really interesting, thanks for writing it! I didn't know m

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-11 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Adam, On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 12:41, Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > Well, I tend to disagree with this, but by a semantic question :) > > In my opinion, VMM32 and all the VXDs are DOS, not Windows. They sound > to > > me like the natural evo

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-11 Thread Jon Brase
>Going back to the original point, I remember finding it interesting how >if you booted Win9x natively it pretty much took over the environment >and DOS all but disappeared, however if you booted into MS-DOS mode and >then ran "win", DOS was still there in the background (just not being >used if yo

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-11 Thread Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
> Well, I tend to disagree with this, but by a semantic question :) > In my opinion, VMM32 and all the VXDs are DOS, not Windows. They sound to > me like the natural evolution of EMM386.EXE. > For me, Windows starts with KRNL386.EXE, not before (or with WIN.COM). I'm not familiar enough with VXDs

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-01 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
I'd recommend QEMU for running FreeDOS on Raspberry Pi (RPI). Personally, I prefer it for x86 too. I run multiple qemu-based x86 FreeDOS nodes (sometimes 6 or more) on a single RPI-4 with plenty of CPU cycles to spare. Using APM aware software in FreeDOS (like FDAPM) really helps with CPU usage,

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-01 Thread Jon Brase
Accidentally replied to Eric instead of the whole list, my apologies to him that he's receiving it twice: On 2/1/21 7:47 AM, Eric Auer wrote: If you have a few GHz of ARM speed, try DOSBIAN: https://cmaiolino.wordpress.com/dosbian/ Regards, Eric I'll note that DOSBIAN violates the GPL on DO

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-02-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! You can configure Wine to simulate any Windows version from Windows 2.0 to Windows 10, including the popular versions Windows 98 and Windows XP, so I would not be too worried about your apps being too old for Wine. > http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.828.8 > http://www.dosemu.or

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Frantisek Rysanek
On 28 Jan 2021 at 21:42, Šimon Dobeš wrote: > > Well it's like this.  > > For me it's too hard to orientate in command line interface such as > dos. For better orientation I prefer some sort of grafical user > interface (GUI) I do not know anything other except for Windows. It > is the best env

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 21:12, tom ehlert wrote: > > > "MS-DOS 7.x" doesn't exist for all but the initial boot process. As soon > > as the Windows 9x boot logo comes up, there is no longer any "MS-DOS > Well, I tend to disagree with this, but by a semantic question :) In my opinion, VMM32 and

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Šimon Dobeš
Well it's like this. For me it's too hard to orientate in command line interface such as dos. For better orientation I prefer some sort of grafical user interface (GUI) I do not know anything other except for Windows. It is the best environment for me since when I was a child we had an 486 dx2 wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread tom ehlert
>>> **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. >> Win95 is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.0 foundation. >> Win98SE is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.1 >> foundation. >> WinME " " " " " "

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
Ralf Quint composed on 2021-01-28 10:57 (UTC-0800): > "MS-DOS 7.x" doesn't exist for all but the initial boot process. As soon > as the Windows 9x boot logo comes up, there is no longer any "MS-DOS > foundation" active. Somebody ought to fix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows: "..

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/28/2021 9:22 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Bonaventura de'Vidovich composed on 2021-01-28 16:29 (UTC+0100): **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. Win95 is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.0 foundation. Win98SE is a desktop environment that lives on

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread tom ehlert
>> **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. > Win95 is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.0 foundation. nope. starting with Windows 3.11 for workgroups, most work is done by Windows. Win95: Only if necessary work would be delegated to the 16Bit DOS fou

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
Šimon Dobeš composed on 2021-01-28 09:18 (UTC): > I tried to install windows 95 on my PC. But it ended up with an error. How old is that PC? Unless it was made in the early to middle 1990s, you can't expect it to support your PC's hardware. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religio

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
Bonaventura de'Vidovich composed on 2021-01-28 16:29 (UTC+0100): > **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. Win95 is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.0 foundation. Win98SE is a desktop environment that lives on top of a MS-DOS 7.1 foundation. WinME

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:47 AM Bonaventura de'Vidovich wrote: > > Win 3.11 is a interface, in that case DOS is the real operative system. > Win95 is an operative system (no comment). There is no DOS. Er, no. Win 3.1 was a multi-tasking, 16 bit, protected mode shell running on top of DOS, and u

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/28/2021 7:53 AM, Šimon Dobeš wrote: Oh. Um well. OK. What about installing windows nt3.51 on my system? What about it? It is another, completely self-standing OS, which doesn't have any relation to FreeDOS. Therefor, it would be off-topic here... ;-) Ralf -- This email has been chec

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Šimon Dobeš
Oh. Um well. OK. What about installing windows nt3.51 on my system? On the other way: I don't want to use virtual machines because my pc is freezer and it runs only on some 21 frames per second which is poor. But thanks. Simon Dňa št, 28. jan 2021, 16:46 Bonaventura de'Vidovich napísal(a): > Hel

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Simon, > I tried to install windows 95 on my PC. But it ended up with an error. > So I installed Windows 3.11. Is anyone able to make zip file of C: drive > with Windows 95 and send me link to download. Nice try, but that would be illegal. If you want to run Windows applications for Windows

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Bonaventura de'Vidovich
Hello *Win 3.11 is a interface, in that case DOS is the _real_ operative system.** **Win95 is an operative system (no comment). **There is no DOS. * You should install Win95 in a empty disk. It is not possible to copy files from an other installation because some files have to be placed in spec

[Freedos-user] Windows 95

2021-01-28 Thread Šimon Dobeš
Hello, I tried to install windows 95 on my PC. But it ended up with an error. So I installed Windows 3.11. Is anyone able to make zip file of C: drive with Windows 95 and send me link to download. Then I can unzip it to my c: and it should work. Thanks, Simon___