Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 help needed

2020-02-24 Thread Douglas N. Greve
By default, optseq2 assumes that you want to perform an FIR analysis where you get an average for each post-stimulus time point so that you can create a waveform. This is in contrast to assuming the shape to the hemodyn respnse where you only estimate a single value (the amplitude). By

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 help needed

2020-02-21 Thread Gergely Darnai
External Email - Use Caution Dear Developers, I am planning to run PVT (psychomotor vigilance task) in fMRI using event related design. This is an extremely simple reaction time task: participant has to respond to the appeared geometric shape as quickly as possible. The key

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 parameters setup

2019-07-16 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
You are probably interested in the power (ie, "can I detect an effect with this many trials scheduled in this way?"). It is not possible to answer this question without an effect size. Having said that, I generally feel comfortable when the VRF is 20-40. Note that this assumes an FIR (not

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 parameters setup

2019-07-15 Thread Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
On 7/15/2019 12:50 PM, Tugce Duran wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hi Dr. Greve, I am interested in designing the Face Name Associative Memory Exam (FNAME) fMRI task for our study. There are 80 face-name pairs that we will use and the duration can be between 3.5 and 4.75 secs. I

[Freesurfer] optseq2 parameters setup

2019-07-15 Thread Tugce Duran
External Email - Use Caution Hi Dr. Greve, I am interested in designing the Face Name Associative Memory Exam (FNAME) fMRI task for our study. There are 80 face-name pairs that we will use and the duration can be between 3.5 and 4.75 secs. I have used the following command:

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 timing outputs

2017-08-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
sorry, I thought I answered this. those slight offsets are not important, you can round to nearest TR On 08/08/2017 10:57 PM, Ruthie Shaffer wrote: > Hi all, > > I sent a message previously and just wanted to check in one more time > about this question (apologies for the repeat message!). > >

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 timing outputs

2017-08-08 Thread Ruthie Shaffer
Hi all, I sent a message previously and just wanted to check in one more time about this question (apologies for the repeat message!). I’m using Optseq2 to generate stimulus / jitter schedules and, depending on the TR I use, in the output files I see onset times like 124.4001 (instead of

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 onset times

2017-08-04 Thread Douglas Greve
those are not concerning, you can just round to the nearest TR On 8/4/17 12:32 PM, Ruthie Shaffer wrote: Hi, I’m using Optseq2 to generate stimulus / jitter schedules, and, depending on the TR used, in the output timing files I see several event onset times very close to the correct time,

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 onset times

2017-08-04 Thread Ruthie Shaffer
Hi, I’m using Optseq2 to generate stimulus / jitter schedules, and, depending on the TR used, in the output timing files I see several event onset times very close to the correct time, but slightly off (for example, something like 124.7999, instead of 124.8).  I’ve used the following command

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2

2017-05-25 Thread Douglas N Greve
what is going wrong? On 05/22/2017 12:11 PM, Tabassi Mofrad, F. wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question about software input. > > --ntp 340 --tr 1.8 --psdwin 0 20 1.8 --ev L1 1.6 60 --ev L2 1.6 60 > --ev Blank 1.6 15 --evc 1 -1 0 --nkeep 3 --o IAPS --tnullmin 2 > --tnullmax 5.6 --nsearch 1 > >

[Freesurfer] Optseq2

2017-05-22 Thread Tabassi Mofrad, F.
Hi, I have a question about software input. --ntp 340 --tr 1.8 --psdwin 0 20 1.8 --ev L1 1.6 60 --ev L2 1.6 60 --ev Blank 1.6 15 --evc 1 -1 0 --nkeep 3 --o IAPS --tnullmin 2 --tnullmax 5.6 --nsearch 1 Here is the input that I have provided but it is problematic. Please could you let me

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Repeating Stimuli and Contrasting the Repetitions

2016-11-10 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Ruth, there are no ways to constrain the order of the stimuli in this way in optseq. If the timing is fixed between these 3 items, then they are effectively one stimulus type, and you can optimize the order of that one stimulus type. On 11/10/2016 01:31 PM, Ruthie Shaffer wrote: > Hi all,

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Repeating Stimuli and Contrasting the Repetitions

2016-11-10 Thread Ruthie Shaffer
Hi all, I’m posting to ask for advice on setting up certain parameters in optseq2: Specifically, in optseq2, how can one set up parameters to best optimize a task where there are say 20 items presented 3 times, where the relevant contrasts are between the first, second, and third presentations

[Freesurfer] optseq2 question

2016-09-21 Thread Yoed Kenett
hello i am trying to use optseq2 to design a study. I have a new mac book pro with El Capitan installed. I have tried downloading all different optseq2 versions but each time when i try to run it through the terminal i get the same exact error: -bash: optseq2: command not found what am i doing

[Freesurfer] optseq2 downloading pb

2016-09-18 Thread Alexandre Obert
Dear all, I would like to download optseq2 from https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/optseq/ it remains unavailable for several days. Is there any other way to obtain it ? Regards, Alexandre Obert -- Alexandre OBERT Doctorant en Psychologie Cognitive Université de Reims Champagne-Ardenne

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 source code

2015-04-23 Thread Patrick Beukema
Thank you. Much appreciated. Cheers, PB On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:25 PM Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: yes, it is available with the FreeSurfer source code, which you can download doug On 04/22/2015 04:30 PM, Patrick Beukema wrote: Hi, Is it possible to get the source

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2: efficiency and vrf

2015-04-22 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 04/21/2015 03:26 PM, Dan Goldman wrote: Thanks for this. I should be more clear. The reasoning and figures tasks are completely separate and are not being compared to each other. Each task has two conditions. For example, in the reasoning task, I have two conditions: Spatial and

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 source code

2015-04-22 Thread Douglas N Greve
yes, it is available with the FreeSurfer source code, which you can download doug On 04/22/2015 04:30 PM, Patrick Beukema wrote: Hi, Is it possible to get the source for optseq2. I would like to translate it into python to integrate it into my existing scripts, and also modify the output

[Freesurfer] optseq2 source code

2015-04-22 Thread Patrick Beukema
Hi, Is it possible to get the source for optseq2. I would like to translate it into python to integrate it into my existing scripts, and also modify the output files to include csv output options, instead of writing post hoc scripts to change the output. Thank you, Patrick

[Freesurfer] Optseq2: efficiency and vrf

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
Hello, I have a question re: calculations of efficiency and vrf in optseq2. We are running two tasks. One is a reasoning tasks, with trial lengths of 12 seconds. The other is an embedded figures task with trial lengths of 10 seconds. For both tasks, we have set a minimum ISI of 4 seconds and a

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2: efficiency and vrf

2015-04-20 Thread Douglas Greve
On 4/20/15 5:45 PM, Dan Goldman wrote: Hello, I have a question re: calculations of efficiency and vrf in optseq2. We are running two tasks. One is a reasoning tasks, with trial lengths of 12 seconds. The other is an embedded figures task with trial lengths of 10 seconds. For both tasks, we

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
Hi Douglas, Thank you for the quick response. Could you tell me which version of optseq this is? Are there multiple versions of optseq2? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Can you try using this version of optseq?

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
I am having some trouble using this version- when I try to use it in Terminal, it returns Permission denied. Is there something I need to do to be able to use it on my computer? Thanks for your help. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: This is the

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Douglas Greve
Can you try using this version of optseq? ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/optseq2 I changed some things that might fix this problem. I ran the command line below with it, and it gave reasonable results for the last null. On 4/20/15 1:22 PM, Dan Goldman wrote:

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Douglas Greve
This is the most recent version, the one that will be part of FS version 6. On 4/20/15 1:40 PM, Dan Goldman wrote: Hi Douglas, Thank you for the quick response. Could you tell me which version of optseq this is? Are there multiple versions of optseq2? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:31 PM,

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
Hello, I am having a problem with optseq2, where the final NULL event is given a much longer duration than the rest of the events. This happens even if I set tnullmax to a lower number- for example, I set tnullmax to 10 seconds, and the final interval came out at 48 seconds. Do you know how to

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
It seems that I am unable to run the file that you sent on a mac- is it a different version from the one available for MacOSX here? https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/optseq/ On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Dan Goldman dreindo...@gmail.com wrote: Nevermind, I got it to work! Thanks for your

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Douglas Greve
chmod a+x optseq2 On 4/20/15 2:13 PM, Dan Goldman wrote: I am having some trouble using this version- when I try to use it in Terminal, it returns Permission denied. Is there something I need to do to be able to use it on my computer? Thanks for your help. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM,

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 question- duration of final event

2015-04-20 Thread Dan Goldman
When I try that I get the error cannot execute binary file. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: chmod a+x optseq2 On 4/20/15 2:13 PM, Dan Goldman wrote: I am having some trouble using this version- when I try to use it in Terminal, it returns

[Freesurfer] optseq2 tnullmax

2014-02-06 Thread Wei-chun Wang
Hi, I am trying to set up a design using optseq2, but the tnullmax command doesn't seem to be functioning. the script runs and outputs files, but they exceed the tnullmax which i specify. is anyone familiar with this issue? this is what i am inputting: --tr 2 --psdwin 0 20 1 --ev easy 4 36 --ev

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 tnullmax

2014-02-06 Thread Douglas N Greve
This may be a bug that I fixed. Try this version ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/optseq2 On 02/06/2014 02:11 PM, Wei-chun Wang wrote: Hi, I am trying to set up a design using optseq2, but the tnullmax command doesn't seem to be functioning. the script runs and

[Freesurfer] optseq2 for a (sparse) 1-back task

2013-11-21 Thread Chris McNorgan
Hi all, I figured I would have some luck tapping expertise on using optseq2 in this mailing list. There are 8 trials times 8 conditions in an event-related design. We are using a 1-back task just to keep participants paying attention. Thus, we are not attempting to match the number of

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 design question - series of events

2013-09-15 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi John, you would make the event last long enough to encompass all the subevents. It might be a problem for optseq if you need to cue the subject as to when to perform each subevent. doug On 9/12/13 6:23 PM, John Ryan wrote: Hi all - I'm trying to design my first event related experiment,

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 design question - series of events

2013-09-12 Thread John Ryan
Hi all - I'm trying to design my first event related experiment, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to best optimize the design...wondering if you have any insights: I have two conditions (milkshake and water). Each condition has several events in order: Participants get a squirt of

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 with Cygwin

2013-08-12 Thread Lukito, Steve
Dear optseq2 developers, I would like to use optseq2 to develop optimal sequence for my MRI experiment. I have a windows machine (Windows 7, SP1, 64-bit OS) so I installed Cygwin-64 to run the optseq2. What I've done so far: - Downloaded optseq2.exe (Cygwin version) and put this into

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 with Cygwin

2013-08-12 Thread Pål Gunnar Larsson
...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] På vegne av Lukito, Steve Sendt: 12. august 2013 12:31 Til: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Emne: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 with Cygwin Dear optseq2 developers, I would like to use optseq2 to develop optimal sequence for my MRI experiment. I have a windows machine (Windows 7, SP1, 64

[Freesurfer] optseq2

2013-08-01 Thread Claire Wilcox
hello, i'm struggling with how to specify a schedule and then ask optseq2 to identify an optimal timing schedule. specifically i have a conditioned cue and an unconditioned stimulus. the high threat CS always needs to follow with a high pain US and low threat CS with a low pain CS. how can i

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2

2013-08-01 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi Claire, you can't do this type of design in optseq because optseq requires that there be no constraints of which stimulus can follow itself or another stimulus (obviously this does not work for your design). If you take a CS-US pair as a stimulus, then that should work. Also, you could

[Freesurfer] OptSeq2 eff and first order and contrast

2013-06-13 Thread A a
Hello all, A question regarding the usage of Optseq2 I have this command line optseq2 --ntp 200 --tr 2.5 --psdwin 0 15 2.5 --ev ev20 2.5 20 --ev ev40 2.5 20 --ev ev60 2.5 20 --tnullmin 5 --tnullmax 7.5 --nkeep 1 --o OptSeq_TRIALS/3_null9_6 --nsearch 1 Now the efficiency tha I get is around

Re: [Freesurfer] OptSeq2 eff and first order and contrast

2013-06-13 Thread Douglas Greve
On 6/13/13 9:45 AM, A a wrote: Hello all, A question regarding the usage of Optseq2 I have this command line optseq2 --ntp 200 --tr 2.5 --psdwin 0 15 2.5 --ev ev20 2.5 20 --ev ev40 2.5 20 --ev ev60 2.5 20 --tnullmin 5 --tnullmax 7.5 --nkeep 1 --o OptSeq_TRIALS/3_null9_6 --nsearch 1

[Freesurfer] optseq2 malloc memory / matrix rank-deficient

2013-05-13 Thread Koolschijn , Cédric
Dear FS-experts, I've been using optseq for many years without problems, however, I run into a couple now. My code is the following: optseq2 --ntp 255 --tr 2.0 --tprescan 4.0 --psdwin 0.0 16.0 1 --ev Gain2 5.0 8.0 --ev Gain4 5.0 8.0 --ev Gain6 5.0 8.0 --ev Gain8 5.0 8.0 --ev Loss2 5.0 8.0

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 malloc memory / matrix rank-deficient

2013-05-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
I think you are at the limit of what is possible. You have TR=2 and Ntp=255 for a total scan time of 510sec. You have 9 event types, each 5stim+2null=7sec long, each repeated 8 times. This calls for 504 for stimulation and so only 6 sec total left for jitter. doug On 05/13/2013 05:28 AM,

[Freesurfer] optseq2 event duration definition

2012-05-14 Thread Andrew Valdespino
(1) Version: optseq2.c,v 2.21.2.1 (2) Computer operating system: Mac OS X Version 10.7.3 (3) Command line: Not relavant here (4) Description of the problem: A trial in my experiment involves a countdown (duration 2 seconds) followed by the event of interest (0.5 seconds) followed by a blank

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 event duration definition

2012-05-14 Thread Douglas N Greve
In this case, the event will be 7 sec. The way it is set up, it assumes that you will use an FIR model to analyze the results (ie, not assuming a shape to the HRF), making it difficult to separate the various subevents to the event (though you can assume a shape to the HRF). It is appropriate

[Freesurfer] optseq2 and tnullmin/max

2012-05-09 Thread Chapman, Hanah
Dear list, I have an optseq2 question, and would very much appreciate your time. I'm having difficulty calculating the required number of timepoints. I'd like to use --tnullmin and --tnullmax so as to have a null event in between each trial, with a duration of 4-8 sec. I have 16 conditions, 6

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 and tnullmin/max

2012-05-09 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Hanah, I just found and fixed the bug. It was making the effective tNullMax = tNullMin + your specified tNullMax. I've put a new (linux) version here: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/optseq2.linux doug On 05/09/2012 06:09 PM, Chapman, Hanah wrote: Dear list,

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 tnullmin

2011-10-03 Thread Anita Cservenka
Hi everyone, I'm using optseq2 and a tnullmin of 2 seconds to force 2 seconds between each event for my paradigm, but I get a segmentation fault error. Here's my command line below. I didn't specify a tnullmax, so that I would avoid any errors by specifying both. I tried other values for

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 tnullmin

2011-10-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Anita, you need to check the math on your design. You have 86 stimuli. Each stimulus requires 0.5s for presentation and 2 sec for null means 215sec total (minimum). But you have TR=2 and Ntp=86 meaning a run of only 172 sec. You will need to increase the number of TRs or decrease the

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 Null Events between every Event

2011-09-20 Thread Anita Cservenka
Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to use optseq2 to get null events (e.g. fixation) between each event type. I would like to see the optimal sequence of trials for a design that involves two event types (each 0.5 sec), 60 TRs for one event, 26 TRs for the other, and a 2sec TR. I would like

[Freesurfer] optseq2 - nominal ideal XtX

2010-09-02 Thread Leo Fernandino
Hi Doug and all, In the output summary of optseq2, does the absolute value of the efficiency of nominal ideal XtX matter when evaluating your design? Specifically, I'm experimenting with different TR durations, and it looks like shorter TRs give me lower efficiency values, but these values are

[Freesurfer] optseq2 polynomial order

2010-09-01 Thread Leo Fernandino
Hi there, I noticed that when I include additional polynomials as nuisance variables, the efficiency of the design decreases. When should we include polynomials to account for scanner drift, and how do we decide the maximum order of the polynomials? Does it depend only on the length of the

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 polynomial order

2010-09-01 Thread Douglas N Greve
I usually use quadratic. I would not worry too much about trying to extract out every last drop of efficiency. Things are going to change enough when you actually analyze the data. What you want to do is just avoid having really bad sequences. doug Leo Fernandino wrote: Hi there, I

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-04-07 Thread Gaber, Tilman
Hi, I am still curious whether and how the above mentioned feature could be implemented into optseq2. I would be delighted and very greatful to hear your ideas. Cheers, Tilman ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

[Freesurfer] optseq2 installation

2010-03-16 Thread Florence POMARES
Dear Doug, The command is still not known. I think that our linux platform is too old... Just to be sure : - optseq2 need matlab ? - optseq2 can be run even if Freesurfer and FS-FAST are not installed ? thank you. other wise, do you know another program doing similar things than optseq ?

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-03-03 Thread Gaber, Tilman
into the sequence (optimized by optseq2). :) Tilman Von: Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 19:04 An: Gaber, Tilman Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-03-02 Thread Gaber, Tilman
...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Gesendet: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:08 An: Gaber, Tilman Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor Optseq2 does not have the ability to change the identity of the stimuli during the run. doug

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-03-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor Optseq2 does not have the ability to change the identity of the stimuli during the run. doug Gaber, Tilman wrote: Thank you for your quick response. Initially I had the same idea. Unfortunately

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-03-01 Thread Douglas N Greve
@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor You can specify that there are 4 trial types (AA, AB, BA, BB), and give the duration twice that of the individual. doug Gaber, Tilman wrote: Dear mailinglist recipients, I am currently

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-02-27 Thread Gaber, Tilman
Von: Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 18:56 An: Gaber, Tilman Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor You can specify that there are 4 trial

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-02-26 Thread Gaber, Tilman
Dear mailinglist recipients, I am currently planning an optimized experiment using optseq2 and a 2x2 factors behavioral response task (Simon-task). The task consists of a pseudo-randomized series of two kinds of trials (congruent and incongruent). In addition there is a sequential factor,

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 - Incorporate sequential order of trials as a factor

2010-02-26 Thread Douglas N Greve
You can specify that there are 4 trial types (AA, AB, BA, BB), and give the duration twice that of the individual. doug Gaber, Tilman wrote: Dear mailinglist recipients, I am currently planning an optimized experiment using optseq2 and a 2x2 factors behavioral response task (Simon-task).

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2009-10-22 Thread 杨宏宇
Hi Doug, I reduced the total time points, however, I found the eff and VRF value all became smaller as the time points decreased, and I still got some null events more than 7s. If I set the time points as 470s, I got most 5-7 null events, except the last 35s null event, and then its eff is 0.007,

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2009-10-22 Thread 杨宏宇
Hi Doug, I figure out why this happened and how to solve the problem. Because My trials always lasted for 12,13,14s, and optseq2 believed that the baseline should last about 12-14s, which means null time should be as many as one task condition or the average of the task conditions. I set my

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2009-10-22 Thread Douglas N Greve
I think your constraint of 5-7 null time is too tight for optseq, and you may still have too much time in your run to make 5-7 work. It's hard to say whether the VRFAvg is good enough or not. You are using sub-TR estimation during the optimization. If you are going to assume a shape to the

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2009-10-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
I think this is partially a bug in optseq and partially a problem with your design. You have a total amount of stimulation time = 12*9+13*8+14*8+12*9+13*8+14*8 = 648 sec. Your run lasts 500*2 = 1000 sec, so the total amount of fixation time is 1000-648 = 352 sec. You have 8*4+9*2 = 50 stimuli,

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 tnullmax

2009-10-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
By using tr=2, delta psd = 2 (ie, --pwdwin 0 20 2), and tnullmax=2, you are forcing each null to be exactly 0 or 2 sec, and optseq is having a hard time with such a hard constraint. You can try changing delta psd to 1. doug Kathrin Herbst wrote: Hi, I am having a related problem: I don't

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-10-06 Thread Douglas N Greve
jitter the ISI than? manually? 3. thanks. *From:* Doug Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu *To:* Asaf Kaftory asaf_kaft...@yahoo.com *Cc:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu *Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:42:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter On Sat, 26 Sep

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-10-06 Thread Asaf Kaftory
. From: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu To: Asaf Kaftory asaf_kaft...@yahoo.com Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 6:16:37 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter I don't know what two samples refers to. doug Asaf Kaftory wrote

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-10-06 Thread Douglas N Greve
is clearer now, Asaf. *From:* Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu *To:* Asaf Kaftory asaf_kaft...@yahoo.com *Cc:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu *Sent:* Tue, October 6, 2009 6:16:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-10-05 Thread Asaf Kaftory
. From: Doug Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu To: Asaf Kaftory asaf_kaft...@yahoo.com Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:42:43 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Asaf Kaftory wrote: Hello list, I'm new

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-09-30 Thread Asaf Kaftory
. From: Doug Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu To: Asaf Kaftory asaf_kaft...@yahoo.com Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:42:43 PM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Asaf Kaftory wrote: Hello list, I'm new

[Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-09-26 Thread Asaf Kaftory
Hello list, I'm new to optseq, and would like your help with the following issues: 1. What exactly does DPSD mean? and why does the TR has to be an integer of it? 2. My experiment design uses jitter - both ITI (i.e., between trials) and ISI (i.e., between stimulus within a compound event). As i

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 help: DPSD and jitter

2009-09-26 Thread Doug Greve
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Asaf Kaftory wrote: Hello list, I'm new to optseq, and would like your help with the following issues: 1. What exactly does DPSD mean? and why does the TR has to be an integer of it? Delta Post-Stimulus Delay. The time between samples in the FIR. Usually, it is just

[Freesurfer] optseq2 and post hoc sorting

2009-02-04 Thread Aaron Trachtenberg
Hi, I am trying to design an event-related memory encoding task. Simply put, the subject either sees familiar or novel pictures (the familiar ones having been shown outside of the scanner before hand). After scanning, recognition for the pictures is tested. I am interested in the novel

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 and post hoc sorting

2009-02-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
Aaron Trachtenberg wrote: Hi, I am trying to design an event-related memory encoding task. Simply put, the subject either sees familiar or novel pictures (the familiar ones having been shown outside of the scanner before hand). After scanning, recognition for the pictures is tested. I am

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 question

2008-11-13 Thread Doug Greve
Hongchuan Zhang wrote: Hi, list, I am new to optseq2 so I really need advices to my questions. We have an experiment of 2 factors with36 trials for each factor, and another 24 null trials. So in total we have 96 trials. We also have 3 random jitters which make our trials could last for

[Freesurfer] optseq2 question

2008-11-03 Thread Hongchuan Zhang
Hi, list, I am new to optseq2 so I really need advices to my questions. We have an experiment of 2 factors with 36 trials for each factor, and another 24 null trials. So in total we have 96 trials. We also have 3 random jitters which make our trials could last for either 4.6, 5 or 5.4

[Freesurfer] optseq2- bus error?

2008-08-29 Thread Audrey Nath
Hello I am running optseq2 on Mac OS X, v.10.5.4. Over the past 2 days, Optseq2 has been crashing after running for a few minutes. It will run along smoothly, and then suddenly: optseq2(22653) malloc: *** error for object 0x3be83b0: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably

[Freesurfer] Optseq2 and 2-way design?

2008-05-09 Thread Elizabeth Reynolds Losin
Hello all, I am new to Optseq2 and I have a question about generating 2-way design orders using the program and about a question about temporal jitter. I am working on a design with 7 conditions. I have run the following design through optseq2 and gotten out reasonable looking orders. --ntp

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2: error while loading

2008-04-09 Thread Nick Schmansky
BumSeok, You'll want to use the centos5_x64_64 freesurfer installation. I'm guessing you're using the rh9 freesurfer installation (see the build- stamp.txt file in the freesurfer dir to confirm), as libstdc++.so.5 is used in that distribution. Or, if you got optseq from the optseq2 webpage,

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 obscenely long null event

2008-03-06 Thread Doug Greve
It looks like you have an awful lot of null in there (6+7+8+6+7+8+11)*2 = 106 sec of stimulation The total run length is 130*2 = 260 sec Leaving 260-106 = 154 sec for null. There are only 7*2=14 events total, so the average null will be 154/14 = 11 sec I'm surprised that one null was 75 sec,

[Freesurfer] optseq2 generation time

2008-03-05 Thread Shannon Tubridy
Dear List - I have a question about how long I should expect it takes my computer to generate optseq2 sequences. A colleague advised that I should expect it to take a couple hours to generate sequences. I've just produced 20 sequences (nsearch = 1; see below for full command line specs)

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 generation time

2008-03-05 Thread Doug Greve
If it searched 10,000 iterations, that's probably fine. If it only takes a few min to do 10k, I might let it run over 100k, though it probably won't improve much. doug Shannon Tubridy wrote: Dear List - I have a question about how long I should expect it takes my computer to

[Freesurfer] optseq2 obscenely long null event

2008-03-05 Thread Jasony Brozinsky
Hi, Optseq2 is returning designs where the last NULL even is upwards of 75 seconds (more than 4 times my psdMax!. Can I keep the rest of the order as is, and just truncate the last NULL event to be equal to my PsdMax value? Below is my command and a sample output file: optseq2 --ntp 130 --tr 2

[Freesurfer] optseq2

2008-02-14 Thread Julia Bender
Hi, I have a question concerning optseq2. I found that increasing the dPSD Parameter from 1/2 TR (0.92s) to 1 TR (1.84s) INCREASED the efficiency of the best schedules from about .075 to .093. I would have assumed that a more finely spaced schedule would result in better efficiency scores. Did I

[Freesurfer] optseq2: glibc detected error?

2008-01-04 Thread Sheeva Azma
Hello, I am trying to run optseq2 but i am getting an error message. Here is the command I use: optseq2 --ntp 160 --ev AL 4 16 --ev AR 4 16 --ev PL 4 16 --ev PR 4 16 --o AS --nkeep 12 --log ASfMRI --nsearch 1 --psdwin 2 20 --tnullmin 2 --tnullmax 8 --tr 2 --sum ASfMRI-sum here is the

[Freesurfer] optseq2 question

2007-11-13 Thread John Herrington
I'm new to optseq and to rapid E-R designs generally. I have a two questions about it. If it helps, here's my (tentative) design - I'm creating a task with 5 conditions (including rest) with a TR of 2320 ms and trial SOA of 4640 ms (my stimuli are on screen for 1 sec of this time). 1) I've

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 question

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Greve
John Herrington wrote: I'm new to optseq and to rapid E-R designs generally. I have a two questions about it. If it helps, here's my (tentative) design - I'm creating a task with 5 conditions (including rest) with a TR of 2320 ms and trial SOA of 4640 ms (my stimuli are on screen for 1 sec

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2007-11-08 Thread Doug Greve
Susan Mosher wrote: Greetings Freesurfers, I am using optseq2 for the first time to generate a stimulus order for my trials and figure out the ideal ITI between trials. I have a few questions about how this works. 1. I tried specifying the PSD max as 18 seconds and minimum of 2 seconds.

[Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2007-11-06 Thread Susan Mosher
Greetings Freesurfers, I am using optseq2 for the first time to generate a stimulus order for my trials and figure out the ideal ITI between trials. I have a few questions about how this works. 1. I tried specifying the PSD max as 18 seconds and minimum of 2 seconds. My ntp is 216 and my TR is

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 question about fixing null intervals

2007-08-06 Thread Doug Greve
what do you mean by allowable null intervals? If you mean that there needs to be a fixed amount of time between two stimuli, then you cannot use optseq for this. However, you can tell optseq that there are only two stimuli, which each stimulus is a pair. Then you'd have to go back and recode

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2007-04-25 Thread Tamara Cristescu
Thanks a lot for your message. It definitely helped me because I really need optseq but I am not very confident with it. If I understand correctly, for 10 stim of 1.5 sec and a protocol with a TR of 4s, a correct optseq sequence would be like that: --ntp 15 --tr 4 --psdwin 0 18 1.5 (or 0.5) --ev

[Freesurfer] optseq2 questions

2007-04-24 Thread Tamara Cristescu
Hello list, I am new to optseq2 and I would need some help with it. I have a very long experiment (many stimuli) and on top of that I have a long TR (4s) because I collect 60 coronal slices covering all the brain. My stimuli are quite short 1.5s or 2.5s but according to optseq the stimuli

Re: [Freesurfer] optseq2 reference

2006-04-23 Thread Doug Greve
Hi Giorgio, There are some refs at the end of the --help. doug On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Giorgio Ganis wrote: Hi, What would be the most appropriate paper/TechRep to cite for optseq2 credits? Thanks. -Giorgio ___ Freesurfer mailing list

[Freesurfer] optseq2 reference

2006-04-22 Thread Giorgio Ganis
Hi, What would be the most appropriate paper/TechRep to cite for optseq2 credits? Thanks. -Giorgio ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

[Freesurfer] Optseq2

2005-10-19 Thread Christie Chung
Hi, I have a question regarding programming fMRI experiments. I am programming a source memory experiment and would like to do ROC modeling with the data. Therefore, I would need to record two responses from participants in each test trial (i.e., Red, Blue, New; and 1, 2, 3). I am wondering if

Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2

2005-10-19 Thread Doug Greve
Hi Christie, I can't comment on whether getting the two responses is the right way to go, but it sounds like you've run optseq properly. doug On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Christie Chung wrote: Hi, I have a question regarding programming fMRI experiments. I am programming a source memory