Re: [FRIAM] See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign

2007-08-14 Thread Randy Burge
Steve, > Virgil was an undergrad research associate at SFI this summer: > http://www.santafe.edu/education/fellowships-undergraduate-roster-05-griffith. > ph > p > Right recall, wrong year, it appears from the SFI web page. It looks like Virgil was at SFI in 2005 as an undergrad at Indiana, wor

Re: [FRIAM] Book trade.

2007-08-14 Thread Saul Caganoff
Hi Marko, I have a copy of Diaspora and Luminous (short stories). I live in Australia so it is not a trivial effort to get the books to you, but lemme know what you want to do. They could be FedExed for a couple of tens of dollars. Cheers, Saul On 8/13/07, Marko A. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [FRIAM] See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign

2007-08-14 Thread Stephen Guerin
Virgil was an undergrad research associate at SFI this summer: http://www.santafe.edu/education/fellowships-undergraduate-roster-05-griffith.ph p -S > -Original Message- > From: Randy Burge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:26 PM > To: FRIAM > Subject: [FRIAM]

[FRIAM] See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign

2007-08-14 Thread Randy Burge
See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign By John Borland 08.14.07 | 2:00 AM http://www.wired.com/print/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker/ On November 17th, 2005, an anonymous Wikipedia user deleted 15 paragraphs from an article on e-voting machine-vendor Diebold,

Re: [FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Roger Critchlow
On 8/14/07, Nicholas Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm Roger. I always thought that unpredictable environments contribute > more within-species diversitity and FEWER species. > > Nick > Nick -- Apparently a generalization that fits some of the facts. The communities of Madagascar a

Re: [FRIAM] Pascal's Wager and Kant's Categorical Imperative

2007-08-14 Thread David Breecker
Yes, that's well argued Ian and makes sense to me (Marcus, your thoughts?). I have a lingering intuitive sense that there is still some analog-worthy insight available; perhaps it's this: If truly catastrophic climate change could result (with some non-zero probability) in a truly inhospit

Re: [FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Gus Koehler
"modularity--the attempt to understand systems as integrations of partially independent and interacting units..." See: Callebaut and Rasskin-Gutman (2005). Modularity: Understanding the Development and Evolution of Natural Complex Systems. MIT Press. Gus Koehler, Ph.D. President and Principal T

Re: [FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hmm Roger. I always thought that unpredictable environments contribute more within-species diversitity and FEWER species. Nick - Original Message - From: Roger Critchlow To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: 8/14/2007 3:48:42 PM Subject: [FRIAM] Evolution in

Re: [FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Douglas Roberts
As the Geico caveman said, "What?" Doug Roberts, RTI International [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell Message sent via Treo Chattermail -Original Message- From: "Marcus G. Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, Aug 14, 2007 5:26 pm Subjec

Re: [FRIAM] NYT: We're living in a PostHuman Simulation

2007-08-14 Thread jpgirard
Just last night I was flipping through channels and the local "Christian" channel had an infomercial/debate with this guy (http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/design.shtml) using the "anthropic principle" to talk about how the universe was designed for life, and of course using that to hyp

Re: [FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Roger Critchlow wrote: > I haven't read enough to see how they identify the "modules" into > which they decompose the phenotype so they can select different > subsets of modules on each environmental change. It looks function composition to me. g(f(x,y),h(w,z)) where they, say, swap around th

Re: [FRIAM] English and "conservatism" (was Edge: The Need for Heretics)

2007-08-14 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:32:04AM -0700, Glen E. P. Ropella wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > steve smith wrote: > >> One of the necessary steps toward a useful dialect about anthropogenic > >> climate change is: stop abusing English. > > > > Every time a "liberal" b

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Hmm, however big the pulse is, it needs to be compared to the lifetime of the dam, and that could be in centuries.. So for one thing 1) the damage has been done, and 2) any decay of vegetation that grows and dies as the water goes up and down, will be matched to some extent by the CO2 conversio

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Robert Holmes wrote: > There's an enormous pulse in greenhouse gases when the reservoir is > flooded and trees and vegetation rot. In some cases this represents > more lifetime emissions than if you'd been running an oil or gas plant. I wonder in how many cases? Seems like it would greatly depe

[FRIAM] Evolution in varying environments

2007-08-14 Thread Roger Critchlow
Back to complexity for a moment. Here are two open access preprints from PNAS that I found while looking for the new map of Angkor Wat. The first is about speeding up artificial evolution by changing the environment: http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0611630104v1 I haven't read eno

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Holmes
So I take it you've not been following the literature on levels of CO2 and methane emissions from hydroelectric plants? ( http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7046 for example). There's an enormous pulse in greenhouse gases when the reservoir is flooded and trees and vegetation rot. In some

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marko A. Rodriguez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor Since 2006 Robert W. Bussard has given talks on a reactor similar in design to the Fusor, now called Polywell, that he states will be capable of useful power generation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell On Aug 14, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Marcus G. Daniels

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
my bad, partially: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7046 > > In a study to be published in /Mitigation and Adaptation Strategies > for Global Change/, Fearnside estimates that in 1990 the greenhouse > effect of emissions from the Curuá-Una dam in Pará, Brazil, was more > than three-a

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Holmes wrote: > Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the > electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power stations > we keep hoping for. You purposefully _choose_ to mis-interpret Marcus' words? Your inte

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Robert Holmes wrote: > Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the > electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power > stations we keep hoping for. Like this one? It's been around a while. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hoover_dam_from_air_corrected.j

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Holmes
Creating no emissions? Really? Wow - you must be generating the electricity for your car from one of those zero-emission power stations we keep hoping for. R On 8/14/07, Marcus G. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Glen E. P. Ropella wrote: > > How about if I use my own form of "carbon offset

Re: [FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Glen E. P. Ropella wrote: > How about if I use my own form of "carbon offset"? E.g. if I drive our > Honda Civic or my motorcycle, then I can go 75mph; but if I drive my V8, > I stick to 55mph? Or, you drive your whatever gas guzzling car to work at 75mph to be productive ASAP, and make big $$$.

Re: [FRIAM] NYT: We're living in a PostHuman Simulation

2007-08-14 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Stephen Guerin wrote: > Damn, them Posthumans! They're not allocating me sufficient CPU and memory! > To me, a fascinating aspect of such a future is what it means for the individual. To have the only expression of a super identity to be through the complexities of coordinated action, keepin

[FRIAM] speed vs. rpm (was English and "conservatism")

2007-08-14 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How about if I use my own form of "carbon offset"? E.g. if I drive our Honda Civic or my motorcycle, then I can go 75mph; but if I drive my V8, I stick to 55mph? Do I qualify as a non-posturing non-demagogue? Or, perhaps at least a posturing non-dem

Re: [FRIAM] English and "conservatism" (was Edge: The Need for Heretics)

2007-08-14 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 steve smith wrote: >> One of the necessary steps toward a useful dialect about anthropogenic >> climate change is: stop abusing English. > > I think you lead with your chin on this one... someone deliberately > spoofing or lampooning you couldn't ha

Re: [FRIAM] NYT: We're living in a PostHuman Simulation

2007-08-14 Thread Marko A. Rodriguez
Speaking of Greg Egan. I recommend the Greg Egan book entitled "Permutation City". Its all about allocating clock cycles to the rich and not to the poor! :) Subjectively, having few clock cycles doesn't alter your experience, but objectively, you are running alot slower relative to others.

[FRIAM] NYT: We're living in a PostHuman Simulation

2007-08-14 Thread Stephen Guerin
"it is almost a mathematical certainty that we are living in someone else's computer simulation." - Nick Bostrom, Oxford http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14tier.html?ex=1187755200&en=258a5f406 ca9d607&ei=5070&emc=eta1 Damn, them Posthumans! They're not allocating me sufficient CPU and mem

[FRIAM] Lecture Wednesday, August 15 12:30p: Gil Densmore: World of Warcraft

2007-08-14 Thread Stephen Guerin
Gil Densmore TITLE: Welcome to the World of Warcraft TIME: Wednesday, August 15 12:30p LOCATION: Redfish Conference Room, 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM Lunch will be available for $5 purchase ABSTRACT: This aims to be a un-talk covering: What is the World of Warcraft. However, since hearin

Re: [FRIAM] English and "conservatism" (was Edge: The Need for Heretics)

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Holmes
You're right Steve, average fuel efficiency does not go up after 55mph, it goes down. It varies from car to car but you'd see something like a 20% increase in fuel consumption going from 55mph to 75mph. Consumption is also highly dependent on how you drive. See http://eartheasy.com/live_fuel_effici

Re: [FRIAM] Pascal's Wager and Kant's Categorical Imperative

2007-08-14 Thread Ian P. Cook
David, >And BTW, I think the Pascal analogy is excellent, with due attention to Marcus' caveat about measurability. >db I guess I'd seen Marcus' point as demonstrating why Pascal's wager wasn't at all applicable. As I understand it, the wager is entirely dependent on the payoff to believing in Go