Re: [FRIAM] Euthphyro vs Socrates

2016-12-08 Thread glen ep ropella
Ha! Yes. Perhaps that's exactly what Noah was talking about. >8^) But to be fair, we're all toddlers to some extent. I've always been confused about why child-like is a compliment but childish is an insult. On December 8, 2016 5:54:43 PM PST, Steven A Smith wrote: >...

[FRIAM] Euthphyro vs Socrates

2016-12-08 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - You (or I) too could perhaps have 15 seconds of (in)fame if you can engage "his Orangeness" in a Eurythrophetic twitter exchange on the definition of Piety (or "what is a Wall?" or ... "what is a Hoax?"... "what is a Climate?", "what is a landslide")... Reviewing their exchange

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread Steven A Smith
Little Glennie - Sorry for the sloppy linking... I DO think it works with all of us when we are being petulant/belligerent in our willful beliefs. I have already shifted my confrontational mode (looming, lowering my voice, narrowing my eyes) with Trumpsters and trying variations of the

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread glen ☣
That's all too reasonable to argue with. 8^( On 12/08/2016 02:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I think it is more likely he does it to collect data. It's how he figures > out what his fans want -- perhaps how he knows anything at all-- he wants > people to reveal the binding. If he just wanted

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread glen ☣
That link didn't work for me. But here's another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P1IVQJdVvE I know that strategy works because people use it on me all the time! 8^) I think those dastardly elites call it "Socratic". On 12/08/2016 02:49 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > It sounds almost

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
"If we assume Trump is the master of ambiguous linguistics Lakoff thinks he is, then he already understands this, at least tacitly. Trump (under this idea) purposefully forms his expressions so that there are unbound variables that are likely to be bound by the listener." I think it is more

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen (Marcus) - I could see that would be useful to model politics (esp. high school popularity contests), but it can already hard to model complex things with pairs never mind many body terms. I suspect someone like Trump really is pairwise in his interactions. It works because no one in

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread glen ☣
On 12/08/2016 11:43 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > What I mean is that there can be sufficient disequilibrium in the global > system such that an agent could be reasonably well aware of the impact of the > system on them and their impact on the system, and nonetheless act in a way > that decreases

Re: [FRIAM] Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses

2016-12-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
"Social justice diversifies the type of energy barriers on which to cut our teeth." Yep. "Well, I was arguing narrowly against the idea that simulation doesn't "get at" the question of why a selfish individual should care about the efficacy of the biosphere. Video/VR games directly target