Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Gary Schiltz
Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. Incredible how much things can change in such a short time (including the differing perceptions of what constitutes "

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Gary - Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) You and me both (56)... I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. In my Private Investigator days (late 70s) I carried a fully analog pager and had a

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
You want to feel old? Try interacting with the Android development community. The average age of the CyanogenMod community, for example, appears to be about 14 years. I actually heard one of the CM devs refer to one of their "senior" developers, who turns out to be 30 years old. --Doug On Wed,

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-28 Thread Arlo Barnes
Going through some old emails and completing and sending drafts I had. >I voted for Obama more because he was young than because he was > not-white. > He is young compared to most presidents, but JFK and Teddy Roosevelt outflanked him, and nobody can go younger than 35 (I don't believe the 30

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-28 Thread Steve Smith
Arlo - I voted for Obama more because he was young than because he was not-white. He is young compared to most presidents, but JFK and Teddy Roosevelt outflanked him, and nobody can go younger than 35 (I don't believe the 30s-40s barrier has been breached yet). Not that it m

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 04/28/2013 05:50 PM: > The second argument is that while > generations in the sense of a labeled X, Y, Z or "greatest" is a bit > trite and seems contrived, there is often (maybe more historically than > contemporarily) a natural oscillation between parent and child. The old >

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
alf Of glen Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:14 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40 Steve Smith wrote at 04/28/2013 05:50 PM: > The second argument is that while > generations in the sense of a labeled X, Y, Z or "greates

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Nicholas Thompson wrote at 04/29/2013 12:57 PM: > The behaviors that we identify with “intent” tend to > occur in the context of justification, whereas the behaviors we identify > with “behavior” tend to occur in the context of action. I'm not so sure. Generally, I like and agree with your perspe

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - It also seems (anecdotally) true that parents try to give *their* children what *they* didn't have... again leading to an oscillation in many dimensions with a time constant of roughly the age of reproduction. I often wonder how much of this is perceived oscillation versus actual oscillat

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote at 04/29/2013 01:59 PM: > It is always assumed (at least by me) that (at least my own) anecdotal > observations are not just at risk of selective attention, confirmation > bias and motivated reasoning, etc. but almost *defined* by it. This > might seem like a huge admission or

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-29 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - It is always assumed (at least by me) that (at least my own) anecdotal observations are not just at risk of selective attention, confirmation bias and motivated reasoning, etc. but almost *defined* by it. This might seem like a huge admission or dismissal of my elaborate offerings and

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
OK. We don't really disagree. But I'll push the point just a tiny bit further and see if it goes anywhere. On 04/29/2013 03:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > On the other hand, I'm not setting out to *prove* my concept of what is > generational, but rather to explain or illuminate it. > > [...] > > I

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - OK. We don't really disagree. But I'll push the point just a tiny bit further and see if it goes anywhere. On 04/29/2013 03:31 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On the other hand, I'm not setting out to *prove* my concept of what is generational, but rather to explain or illumin

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread glen ropella
On 04/30/2013 12:07 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > (how many books do you/father/grandfather own? how > much personal correspondence do each of you maintain? how many journal > entries (words, lines, pages?) do you average? etc.) I think I can gather some data. I already have a number of questions I as

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - I guess at this point, I've proposed a model that is not particularly well validated (by me)... but then that is usually what this level of discussion consists of doesn't it? Speculation about what models *might* have some validity and how they *might* be tested and maybe some anecdotal d