Doug,
Ah! Now this is the sort of topic we used to discuss: when does complexity
lead to stability and when does it lead to chaos?
One of the remarkable things we discovered in the EVO DEVO group that met a
couple of years back is how the genome has been designed to be stable under
change
Bend a thread? Perish the thought. Please, continue on with the
complexities of Windows 7 systems administration.
I don't use it myself, so the less I know about it, the better. But that's
probably just be me.
It just might be, however, in the grander scheme of things, time for the
degenerate M$
To repeat, Windows for my 3D graphics development purposes has been far
more stable than either Mac or Ubuntu Linux.
Bruce
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
> It just might be, however, in the grander scheme of things, time for the
> degenerate M$ genome to expire, no longer
Windows what: XP? If so, it had better be stable. It's been around since
2001!
On Feb 7, 2013 10:55 PM, "Bruce Sherwood" wrote:
> To repeat, Windows for my 3D graphics development purposes has been far
> more stable than either Mac or Ubuntu Linux.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Do
The VPython history is Windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, XP, Vista, Windows 7. I
haven't yet tried Windows 8. VPython got started in 2000, but at the time
there were still machines around running OS versions as old as Windows 95.
Bruce
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
> Windows w
On 2/7/13 10:54 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
To repeat, Windows for my 3D graphics development purposes has been
far more stable than either Mac or Ubuntu Linux.
Windows is the biggest market for gamers. 3D innovation has
historically always been first on WIndows.
If all you want a computer to do
I'm not claiming that Windows has all the answers for all possible goals.
What I am pointing out is that in the case of a quite non-trivial
application there has been remarkable stability that has been missing from
both Mac and Linux environments. I haven't seen Microsoft being given
credit for thi
On 2/8/13 8:32 AM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
What I'm objecting to is the facile assumption in computer-savvy
circles that "obviously" Windows and Microsoft are hopeless (roll the
eyes). That's not the whole story.
I agree with that. The operating system is solid, and the development
tools are
Although it might seem that I would have a similar view as Bruce since we both
support 3D graphics for educational purposes, my experience is exactly the
opposite of Bruce's. I have to support thousands of mostly CS students and
various professionals every year. Windows is an absolute nightmare
The difference is indeed that users of VPython (not me!) have no
involvement with C/C++, and no involvement with any kind of compiling.
Almost all of the VPython C++ code is platform-independent, thanks to use
of OpenGL, with no use of DirectX, and as I've said, the platform-dependent
code (make a
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
> In the case of 64-bit Python on Windows, that compiler is a rather old
> version of Visual Studio which required arcane edits of various Visual
> Studio configuration files on my machine.
>
> Bruce
>
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*Doug Roberts
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Edward Angel wrote at 02/08/2013 08:02 AM:
> Although it might seem that I would have a similar view as Bruce
> since we both support 3D graphics for educational purposes, my
> experience is exactly the opposite of Bruce's. [...]
Perhaps it's my own abstraction run amok, but this whole discussion
It is indeed an eye-roller. But it's more a Python eye-roller than a
Microsoft or Windows eye-roller. If I remember correctly, it was Owen who
some months ago pointed out some unfortunate aspects of the Python ecology.
On the one hand, Python is very open to adding modules written in compiled
langu
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