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Ha, ok. It would take a couple of hours or the better part of a weekend to make something aesthetically satisfying. I rather like how the compositeSort turned out :) -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied

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20 1:57 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny. Nick, Running my Haskell model produces an output to the screen that one can view as doing the thing we expect, but I doubt it will tell you anything you didn't already know. It could have been written in many different ways, bu

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Nick, Running my Haskell model produces an output to the screen that one can view as doing the thing we expect, but I doubt it will tell you anything you didn't already know. It could have been written in many different ways, but I choose to separate out the details of the implementation so that

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Nick, Nick, > One little scrap I can grasp at here, and perhaps make a contribution. > There is a subtle point, perhaps a weakness in Peirce, to which the term > "believable" points. Note the mode. "believable--that which is readily > believed." But Peirce is pointing not to that but to

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--Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:08 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny. Thought of another way, I can interpret Peirce-truthiness in terms of alethic operators. Let's say that an apt-belief is Peirce-tr

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Thought of another way, I can interpret Peirce-truthiness in terms of alethic operators. Let's say that an apt-belief is Peirce-true if it belongs to the collection of everyone's potential apt-beliefs, in other words, they will be found to be necessarily apt-believable (□). This leaves the

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Sunchokes are very tasty. Do they grow easily out where you are? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

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Jon - Thanks!  I think I followed all (most) of that...   I wanted to comment on your introduction of rhizomal vs arborescent from another post/thread but got tangled in trying to untangle how much of those two "modalities" derive from their naming metaphors and how apt they are since they

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Ha, yeah. Originally, I had only meant to compare two (potentially hallucinatory) modalities that I find myself humoring. On the one hand, an arborescent ordering of my world (universal grammar of belief), and on the other something more like a nomadic exploration of a rhizome. As a sort of side

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Jon - JZ> Maybe underfitting? Would you mind fleshing out the connection, more? I misread your second message to be a restatement/elaboration of the last line in your first...  I was identifying "short run agreement at the expense of long-run agreement" as overfitting but I see now you said

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Maybe underfitting? Would you mind fleshing out the connection, more? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

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Jon sed: > Further, if we only take what we will agree to in the long-run as truths, > then it is very likely that we all aptly believe things that can never be > true. this seems like a specific example of overfitting?   - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied

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> FWIW, I'm not trying to *assert* collective intention (or higher-order > intention). The idea that a collection of intentions exhibits a relatively > closed "floor" or "logical layer of abstraction" below ... so that the > structure of a collective of intentional agents may well be

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Further, if we only take what we will agree to in the long-run as truths, then it is very likely that we all aptly believe things that can never be true. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

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For the record, Dave, I believe Chomsky agrees with you :) Still, my concern persists even when we identify 'universals'. There may be whatever universals and yet remain 'apt beliefs' that we exploit for profit that can *never* be extended to be believed by another. This is to say that in the

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I would be skeptical of the possibility. Studies in Neuro-Theology and Cognitive Anthropology might discover (and have)discovered) "universals:" e.g. suppression of activity in a specific brain location decreases one's sense of separation from the Universe; Xenophobia; etc. Other studies show

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One extreme reason is that the intersection may be empty, excluding all individual beliefs (even those that give rise to profitable action, ie. an apt belief[*]) from being true in the Peircean sense. [*] From the paper Glen posted: "A belief is apt if and only if it is successful (i.e.,

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Why tragedy? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 12:05 PM jon zingale wrote: > FWIW, I occasionally entertain the idea of a *Universal Grammar* for > belief[⍦]. > The idea being that there may be some genetic component

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FWIW, I occasionally entertain the idea of a *Universal Grammar* for belief[⍦]. The idea being that there may be some genetic component of the belief faculty, and that by analogy to universal grammar, one acquires competence in one's own beliefs through performance[⌂][◇]. At any moment, a person

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FWIW, I'm not trying to *assert* collective intention (or higher-order intention). The idea that a collection of intentions exhibits a relatively closed "floor" or "logical layer of abstraction" below ... so that the structure of a collective of intentional agents may well be self-organized in

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Somehow this post reminds me of George Bataille's "L’informe": "A dictionary begins when it no longer gives the meaning of words, but their tasks. Thus formless is not only an adjective having a given meaning, but a term that serves to bring things down in the world, generally requiring that each

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haha, yeah, and perhaps something analogous to Twitch crates. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

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en to the Biden campaign? >> >> Nick >> >> Nicholas Thompson >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> Clark University >> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> >> https:/

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I didn't verify Last's claims either. But it's not the truth or falsity of it that matters so much as it *triggers* in me an emotional response (the hope that Trump loses, is indicted, and maybe seeks asylum in Russia to wallow in rotten offal like Seagal and Depardieu). That's the mechanism of

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nd of his life into the present? >> >> ramble, >> >> - Steve >> >> >> On 8/4/20 4:57 PM, cody dooderson wrote: >> >> Could one level be a tea party level? Maybe Glenn Beck could be the Mad >> Hatter? >> >> Cody Smith >>

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ould one level be a tea party level? Maybe Glenn Beck could be the Mad > Hatter? > > Cody Smith > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:19 PM wrote: > >> Could each "shot" be a penny given to the Biden campaign? >> >> Nick >> >> Nicholas Thompson

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> Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam

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Glen - All video-game/bobblehead tangents aside, this was a fascinating complementary pair of links. I didn't fully verify your Bulwark link, but my first impulse was to think it was an Onion or Borowitz article. 

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sychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:46 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That'

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t: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:46 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny. Nick, you have just outlined the dream. The hope was to sell these at 99 cents per download. The market for such disposable distractions appears to be firmly established, and potentially profitable. Furthe

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Wow. I thought it was new. It was new to me. Thanks, R. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 2:58 PM Alexander Rasmus wrote: > Frank, > > Garry's Mod came out in 2004. It is roughly speaking a mod of half-life 2, > and

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Frank, Garry's Mod came out in 2004. It is roughly speaking a mod of half-life 2, and it allows reskinning. Best, Rasmus On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:08 PM Tom Johnson wrote: > Gee, thanks Steve. I think. > TJ > > > Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com >

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Gee, thanks Steve. I think. TJ Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) *NM Foundation for Open Government*

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> Steve, > > Amazing! In the early days of crack codes for Doom and Quake, I would reskin > my fps's and loved designing my own environments to play friends. I had > never thought to use kangaroos, though :) The Kong-Mario 2D would be a > wonderful choice for the trump game. As far as the

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My 8 year old grandson seems to keep current with the latest trends in games somehow. I think Youtube Is involved. His latest obsession is Garry's Mod or GMod. The graphics are spectacular. I wonder if it supports different skins. I wonder what it's a mod of. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle

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Steve, Amazing! In the early days of crack codes for Doom and Quake, I would reskin my fps's and loved designing my own environments to play friends. I had never thought to use kangaroos, though :) The Kong-Mario 2D would be a wonderful choice for the trump game. As far as the bobbleheads, now I

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dpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:19 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny. > > During the 2016 election, I tried to convince som

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Nick, you have just outlined the dream. The hope was to sell these at 99 cents per download. The market for such disposable distractions appears to be firmly established, and potentially profitable. Further, to pull a variant of a Moby, redirecting the profits to one campaign or another could

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o: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OK. That's funny. During the 2016 election, I tried to convince some programmer friends to help me make an android game in Unity. The premise was to be a 1 level rip off of the Jurassic Park video game from the 90s. The main character would throw bott

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During the 2016 election, I tried to convince some programmer friends to help me make an android game in Unity. The premise was to be a 1 level rip off of the Jurassic Park video game from the 90s. The main character would throw bottles of suntan lotion at a T-rex with Trump's head. Trump's face

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Ha! That sounds more like an evil Boss in a video game ... one where you try to kill them 100 times and when you finally do, you leap out of your chair and break your headset because you're so excited. On 8/4/20 9:29 AM, jon zingale wrote: > Wow, it occurs to me that forming a D like campaign,

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Wow, it occurs to me that forming a D like campaign, set in the modern world, where the player characters are an adventuring party formed of Snowden (wizard), Depardieu (bard), and Seagal (barbarian) would be amazing! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -..

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Trump’s New Ad Is Amazing https://thebulwark.com/trumps-new-ad-is-amazing/ We can only dream that Trump will be indicted and tried for treason. It's interesting to speculate whether he'll seek asylum in Russia. Snowden seems to be OK, but not thriving: