Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/11/15 23:57, a1 so eloquently wrote: I am utterly fed up with what Google did to Reader, (snip) Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain reliable with Tiger. I use Google Reader to Synch NetNewsWire MP PB and avoid the changes Google made to Reader, I don't even

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread dc
On Nov 15, 12:21 pm, Jesse jesselorenstj...@gmail.com wrote: So what are the best drives and cards for scsi? I agree with Dan, a SATA PCI card and 10K SATA (Raptor) drive is fast and reusable in G5, MacPro, and PC machines. I do think SCSI drives are cheaper right now. There are ATTO UL2x and

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread dc
On Nov 15, 9:01 pm, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for Christmas.  If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot buttered rums and counting birds,

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Geke
I’m using Apple Mail with gmail without problems since a long time already. I’m also using browser mail for gmail (in Camino, Firefox on a G4, and Ten4Fox on a G3 ibook) but I have set the account to basic html. Some time ago, there was some havoc with Google posting a message to upgrade my

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Nestamicky
On 15/11/11 8:21 AM, Bruce Godfrey wrote: dc, do you have any data on how much difference a fast SCSI drive makes in a MDD or similar G$ Mac? I just installed one and I have used Disk Speed Bench X to test the transfer speed. I find 80MB/sec. My original IDE Hitachi Deskstar on the ATA100 bus

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Nestamicky
On 11/11/11 12:43 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Perhaps my perspective is different, or perhaps distorted by a space-time continuum. ..or perhaps you're being asked to put forward evidence of what you're saying; hardware or cheat sheet -- You received this message because you are a member

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Jesse
Sent from my iPhone 4 On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:57 AM, a1 arichic...@gmail.com wrote: I use Panther and Tiger on my G4 and other macs, usually switching between Omniweb, Camino and sometimes Opera. I gave up on Firefox and 10.4 Fox simply because I dont want to do jumping jacks simply in

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
I have never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail. What do you mean? I use Apple Mail to work with gMail and it works very good. What is it doing or not doing? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
On 11/16/11 2:54 AM, dc wrote: On Nov 15, 9:01 pm, Stephen E. Bodnarsbod...@gci.net wrote: I'll keep my ears open. We live up on Purtov now and have a pretty active feeder, but Switgard and Lars will be over in Germany for Christmas. If somebody wants to sit in our kitchen drinking hot

Upgrade my Quicksilver

2011-11-16 Thread Gene Henley
I am trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 733Mhz. I`m open for most suggestions EXCEPT Get rid of it and buy a G5. PLEASE! I have Tiger,and 1 gig of memory. I was given a 1 gig QuicksilverCPU,unknown reliability. I have a SATA internal drive which I have been advised will give me a faster computer

Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver

2011-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Engle
This card will not work in your machine as it is PCI-e. You need a card that is PCI. On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Gene Henley wrote: Highpoint Rocket SATA PCI-Express 2.0X1 controller Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: I have never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail. What do you mean? I use Apple Mail to work with gMail and it works very good. What is it doing or not doing? Me as well; I've used Gmail with OS X since 10.2 with

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:57 PM, a1 wrote: Do people use Terminal for email or any way around the suffocation of the upgrade curve? pine works with OS X and any imap provider, which gmail is... http://www.washington.edu/pine/ as does it's successor alpine

Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 17:09, Gene Henley ha scritto: I am trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 733Mhz. I have Tiger,and 1 gig of memory. I had a very similar G4 (G4 DA 667). IMHO, 1GB Ram is enough for common use, but it's not if you're using heavyweight apps (Adobe InDesign and Photoshop, and the

PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Barnes
Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 7:57, a1 ha scritto: Hardware: I am either going to radically upgrade the G4 or buy one of the G5's I see flooding the market here. Dollar-wise, I suggest you going to the G5. I did (from a G4 1.4GHz to a G5 2.7 DP), and I'm happy. Speed more than doubled. :-) Am I really

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:22, Alex Barnes ha scritto: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 I'm no hardware expert, but I think the short ones are 32-bit, and longer ones are 64-bit. Actually there are at least

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher depending on chipset

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 There are multiple standards for the PCI spec, and some long cards. The slots in the Mac fit both, the PC ones don't.

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:32 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 PCI-X - its fully backwards

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto: The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this with Mactracker - there's 4 PCI-X

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:45 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto: The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Hall
According to this from Apple, no G4 has PCI-X: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3082 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: PCI question Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41,

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread JohnV
I ran into this recently trying to get a ppc G5 MOTU audio card. even with a long detailed conversation on teh phone with a MOTu tech advisor, we STILL got teh wrong card shipped to me. PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:41 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: No. The long slots in a G4 are NOT PCI-X. The original PCI slot spec allows for a long version that requires the extra slot length. Uh, I think your confusing full length cards and regular length cards. Both of which could be PCI or PCI-X. Card

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread peterhaas
Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 The early, low integration PCI cards needed all the space which could be provided by the original IBM specification for the PC. Still, even on a late Mac PPC, long cards

Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
This works like a charm to fix Weather Widget in 10.5.8 1. Have access to 10.6.x 2. Compress System/Library/WidgetResources, to move to desk top. 3. Replace 10.5 System/Library/WidgetResources with 10.6 System/ Library/WidgetResources 4. Also swap weather widgets from 10.5 and 10.6 5.

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Justin Porterfield
These are 64bit PCI slots, not PCI-X, there is a huge difference. There was an early G5 PowerMac that had PCI-X slots but no G4 ever did. Picture of a G4 MDD showing the PCI-X slots on the left hand side:

Re: Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread David W. Morris
Can you explain exact step by step for number 4 below? Also, must step 2 be compressed to move it to the desktop? Can all of this be done by putting the 10.6 Install DVD into a G4 PowerBook, or do I need to do these steps on my Intel MacMini and transfer the files with a USB stick to the

Re: Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:32 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: This works like a charm to fix Weather Widget in 10.5.8 WeatherBug Alert is a simple menu bar extra. Doesn't eat resources or cause problems like some widgets. http://weather.weatherbug.com/desktop-weather/weatherbug-mac.html -- You

Re: Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:08 PM, David W. Morris wrote: Can you explain exact step by step for number 4 below? Also, must step 2 be compressed to move it to the desktop? No it doesn't. But it is handy to keep it all together in case you need to replace it. Can all of this be done by

Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver

2011-11-16 Thread JoeTaxpayer
The eBay Listing I see says QS as you noted, but P/N 820-1452-A which looks like an MDD board. I added a SATA card to my MDD and am happy I did it. Extra RAM can't hurt. On Nov 16, 11:09 am, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: I am trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 733Mhz.  I`m open for most

Re: Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread Roger Hodge
Also worked on my G5 with Tiger... :) Thanks On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:08 PM, David W. Morris wrote: Can you explain exact step by step for number 4 below? Also, must step 2 be compressed to move it to the desktop? No it doesn't. But it

Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

2011-11-16 Thread Applemac G3,G5
Unnecessary tweaking of browsers is one of the more aggravating ways that online content providers have of making old computers obsolete. I'm running a Powermac G5 with 10.5.8 and really have no issues at this point, but keep in mind that the G5 line of towers logged an early reliability record

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Godfrey
I have a 15k U320 SCSI drive booting my system now, whereas before I had the slower of the two IDE drives in that position. The computer is definitely more responsive now. Applications open faster and documents save faster. Overall boot up time from being turned on isn't much different, but

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Bruce Godfrey wrote: As for YouTube, I have a question about that - How much difference does the video card make in playing Flash stuff? Very little. Flash is almost entirely CPU bound. It's faster on your G4 versus your G3 because the G4 is faster. -- Bruce

Re: hacking for a slimmer world

2011-11-16 Thread broosg
I like the SATA drive idea as well. A couple of weeks ago I found out you can have it both ways. There is a simple cable adapter made that you connect to the 68-pin SCSI card and it leads out 4 SATA cables. I have not found anyone who has tried these, but the discussion on this web page

Re: Weather Widget fix 10.5.8

2011-11-16 Thread JohnCarmonne
On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:08 PM, David W. Morris wrote: Can you explain exact step by step for number 4 below? Also, must step 2 be compressed to move it to the desktop? No it doesn't. But it is handy to keep it all together in case

Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver

2011-11-16 Thread Wayne Stewart
Yes, that's a MDD CPU On Nov 16, 12:30 pm, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: The eBay Listing I see says QS as you noted, but P/N 820-1452-A which looks like an MDD board. I added a SATA card to my MDD and am happy I did it. Extra RAM can't hurt. -- You received this message

Gig-E and Digital Audio question

2011-11-16 Thread rtowsley
Does anyone know if the front panel power on / IO boards are the same for these? I know the power supplies are the same. Thx BobT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Re: Gig-E and Digital Audio question

2011-11-16 Thread rtowsley
Google was my friend :-) Same for both Gig-e D/A -Original Message- From: rtowsley rtows...@aol.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 3:27 pm Subject: Gig-E and Digital Audio question Does anyone know if the front panel power on / IO boards are the same