Re: Time Machine backups in wrong folders

2012-04-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Sean Carroll wrote: > Why the different folders for each computer if TM is not equipped to keep > track accordingly? Even though the backups from both OS's were all > incorrectly lumped into the MiniLion folder (presumably because of my own

Re: Time Machine backups in wrong folders

2012-04-09 Thread Sean Carroll
ank you. I have erased and partitioned. An academic question (or two) to help me understand Time Machine better: Why the different folders for each computer if TM is not equipped to keep track accordingly? Even though the backups from both OS's were all incorrectly lumped into the

Re: Time Machine backups in wrong folders

2012-04-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Sean Carroll wrote: > Done right, it would appear that there should be no problem using the > same external drive partition for Time Machine backup for 2 different > Macs. Correct me if I'm wrong. You're wrong. When connected to a single volume, time machine uses the

Time Machine backups in wrong folders

2012-04-08 Thread Sean Carroll
Done right, it would appear that there should be no problem using the same external drive partition for Time Machine backup for 2 different Macs. Correct me if I'm wrong. My problem is that some backups are in the wrong folder. What I should see in column view is: TM Partition>Backup.ba

Re: Recommend USB UD for backups

2012-02-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
recommend using CCC or SuperDuper for your real backups. As an another anecdotal non-data point, I have NEVER seen this happen, and I've set up dozens of time machine disks for various folks around the college, and myself. We have had issues where the drives died, but never an issue of

Re: Recommend USB UD for backups

2012-02-02 Thread John Carmonne
On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Bill wrote: > Hello all, > > The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via > Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount. > > I have tried everything to get it to show up on the Desktop under > 10.4.11 and 1

Re: Recommend USB UD for backups

2012-02-02 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 17-01-2012 16:02, Bill ha scritto: > The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via > Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount. AFAIK, some WD external drives have been known for having issues with Macs. You might do some Google researc

Re: Recommend USB UD for backups

2012-01-29 Thread Dan
At 7:02 AM -0800 1/17/2012, Bill wrote: [eliminated the goto by moving this stuff to the top] Quicksilver G4, Two internal HDs, Leopard, Tiger, and OS 9. The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount. I have tried

Recommend USB UD for backups

2012-01-29 Thread Bill
Hello all, The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount. I have tried everything to get it to show up on the Desktop under 10.4.11 and 10.5.8 but to no avail. Can someone recommend a reliable USB Hard Drive that I

Re: Go run your backups! NOW!

2011-08-12 Thread Dan
At 12:09 PM -0400 8/12/2011, Dan wrote: You heard me -- GO RUN YOUR BACKUPS! NOW! Well, the sentiment is right but as you can see this email went out before it was finished... sigh. One of those days... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received

Go run your backups! NOW!

2011-08-12 Thread Dan
You heard me -- GO RUN YOUR BACKUPS! NOW! DON'T WAIT! It's the beginning of the month -- GET IT DONE! Is that subtle enough? :) yea yea yea... Ok... Running backups... FWIW, this is how I do my weekly and monthly full backups: 0. Quit all applications. We're gonna d

Happy New Year! Now get to work - run your backups!

2011-01-01 Thread Dan
What? It's the beginning of the month and you're just sitting there staring at the screen again?! Get a move on -- RUN BACKUPS! DON'T DELAY! DO IT NOW! NOW! Carbon Copy Cloner (our fav) <http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html> or SuperDuper! (good, but not as versati

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-12 Thread Dan
At 1:30 AM +0200 11/13/2009, Baha Ata wrote: >I never trusted tapes... hard to protect them... I had lost 50 GB >(lots of tapes) 5 years ago... Magtape is quite reliable - if cared for properly. That means they have to be kept in a temp and humidity controlled environment, and "spun thru" once

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-12 Thread Baha Ata
ply). It looks interesting! > > > > >I've used Retrospect since about version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the > > >move to EMC may have wrought. > > > > It isn't pretty. > > > Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or > &

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-12 Thread t...@io.com
h > bloatware now. ...I'm just starting to look at Zmanda (the open > source solution Bruce mentions in his reply). It looks interesting! > > >I've used Retrospect since about version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the > >move to EMC may have wrought. > > It isn&#x

SuperDuper: Was; Backups? !!!

2009-11-11 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dan wrote: > > all > new!". > > Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or > SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning > during the day, use Time Machine *also*. > > -- Seeing

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-11 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:28 AM, t...@io.com wrote: > Is Retrospect out of the running? I'm quite behind the times with the > switch to OSX. My main machine is still running 9.1, but my partner's > and son's machines are on OSX and I really should have started a > backup system for them a couple o

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-11 Thread Dan
to the Mac. I think that shipped in March 2009. Here it is Nov and it's still being marketed as "all new!". Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning during the day

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-11 Thread t...@io.com
On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Dan wrote: > The two frontrunners these days are CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) and > SuperDuper!. My current preference is for CCC. We've had quite a > few threads on the LEM lists discussing these products. If you're > interested in them, you should search first. Is Retrosp

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
hmmm... i might try it... if i can... i will report it 2009/11/11 Bruce Johnson > > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > > > Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it > > will be > > my last question. > > Big enterprise solutions like Arcserve offer Mac clie

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it > will be > my last question. Big enterprise solutions like Arcserve offer Mac clients. I did find this open source enterprise backup: which has an OS

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
thanks bruce and others... i am a noivice in Apple world, just seriously using this machines for a year (even i smiliar with them since 1988). Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it will be my last question. 2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson > > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:52 A

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, iJohn wrote: > > What advantage is there to using these other apps beyond what Apple's > Disk Utility would provide? CCC lets you schedule copies and maintains an up-to-date version, only copying files that have changed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Dan wrote: > > At 6:56 PM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: >> are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? > > So far you and Bruce are the only two folx I know that haven't had > major TM fooage. By "major" I mean that TM farks so badly that it

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread iJohn
>On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bruce Johnson >wrote: > > Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very > easy to recover form a failed HDD: just boot from your backup. > To create a bootable clone copy of an OS X partition I've always just used the confusingly named (t

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Dan
the whole backup volume. That being said AFAIK, there are no products except Time Machine that fully hook into OS X to provide the event driven incremental backups. All other backup products simply do their incremental work (take a snapshot) at the time you schedule (run) them. The two fron

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
up and use. It's main disadvantages are that it does not produce a bootable backup, although it can be used as a total restore. It is also difficult to set up with an off/on site rotation of backups. Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very easy to recover

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? 2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote: > > > > > At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: > >> I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB > >> External nowadays... > > > > Have

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: >> I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB >> External nowadays... > > Have you had any problems with Time Machine? I've been running it since I updated to 10.5 and haven't hand more

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Yeah, part of my point. Little content other than a push toward > favored > solution sellers. I did mention my media studies, right? Had the > article > been thick with logic and reasoning I would have thought the intent > reall

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Dan
gt;favored solution sellers. The article points out the basic blunders. The included links are to product review articles. I really don't see a problem with that. >Had the article been thick with logic and reasoning then its point would have been totally lost, because the people th

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
Perfomance problems, other than that... i tried small restores... i never tried full restore... There are other people probably here might have deeper experiences... I was generally type of guy until last disaster of mine 2009/11/10 Dan > > At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: > >I use

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 7:24 PM -0500 11/9/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >But look at the page that was backlinked. Look at the links off of that. > > > >But do we really need to be told this by an ad filled with ads > >disguised as a magazine? > > > >Layers of

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Dan
At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: >I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB >External nowadays... Have you had any problems with Time Machine? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Dan
At 7:24 PM -0500 11/9/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >But look at the page that was backlinked. Look at the links off of that. > >But do we really need to be told this by an ad filled with ads >disguised as a magazine? > >Layers of irony like those of an onion were at play when I saw that

RE: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Stewie de Young
an IT pro just an enthusiastic amateur who seems to be the fixit guy for friends , neighbours etc ) that have no backups in place and they include a couple with twenty to thirty employees ! Stewie From: fluxstrin...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:24:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Backups? !!! To:

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
egment of the industry. > ___ Bruce,Bruce, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce! tongue in cheek ( even when rather true) is lost here right? Of course we need backups if we have data to protect. That is a given. But look at the page that was backlinked. L

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Baha Ata
ite temp & > humidity sensitive. > > >A bit too far you think > > No. Sounds like a decent strategy to me. > > Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just > stashed in a friend's sock draw

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Baha Ata
> No. Sounds like a decent strategy to me. > > Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just > stashed in a friend's sock drawer. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~--

RE: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Dan
ke a decent strategy to me. Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just stashed in a friend's sock drawer. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a m

RE: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Stewie de Young
. Stewie > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:22:52 -0500 > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > From: dantear...@gmail.com > Subject: Backups? !!! > > > Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done! > > <http://www.macwo

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Dan
At 10:59 AM -0700 11/9/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: >The key questions to ask yourself: > >How much is my stuff worth to me? > >How much will it cost me to recreate all of it? considering both your time and your cash. >If your answer to the second question involved financing research into >practi

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > Mac users need to all buy more drive hardware. The industry needs a > cash > injection. > > That's what I saw. Ummm... I have witnessed irrevocable data loss from each and every one of those scenarios. The key questions to as

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Dan wrote: > > Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done! > > <http://www.macworld.com/article/143572/2009/11/botchedbackups.html> > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emer

Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Dan
Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done! <http://www.macworld.com/article/143572/2009/11/botchedbackups.html> - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because y

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: > I have always had it connected to > an UPS, usually APC. Buy a new one every couple years when the battery > goes. (Not worth it to ship a battery methinks.) If you have a chain like Batteries Plus in your neck of the woods, they sell

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > I'm tempting the LEM "endless idiotic UPS thread" curse here, but one > of the best investments you can ever make for your computer system is > a good, professional-grade uninterruptible power system, one that also > conditions the power (you'll

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > >> I guess I will still need to run them OCCASIONALLY on my work Mac >> running 10.4.11 since I shut that down every night. > > This is another problem that was bigger in earlier versions of OS X. > In 10.1 and 10.2 pe

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > I guess I will still need to run them OCCASIONALLY on my work Mac > running 10.4.11 since I shut that down every night. This is another problem that was bigger in earlier versions of OS X. In 10.1 and 10.2 people were finding their systems s

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Len Gerstel
On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >>> >>> I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run >>> DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > > On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >> I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run >> DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I >> said, OS X is robust. Leave it the heck alone and it

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Len Gerstel
On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run > DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I > said, OS X is robust. Leave it the heck alone and it usually runs > pretty well all by itself. Since you do no

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
y and power brick system comprise, in essence, both parts of a power conditioning UPS) I maintain current backups via Time Machine and that's it. I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-26 Thread Bill Christensen
At 10:09 PM -0400 4/26/09, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: >On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >>>1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and >>> >>>then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and >&

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Davis
On Apr 26, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: > On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >>> 1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive >>> and >>> then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-26 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> 1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and >> then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and >> the system does something weird, wouldn't it be better to have a

Re: CCC and Backups

2009-04-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
bad, files just copied over > to the new iMac very well. > > I just downloaded CCC - coupla questions: > > 1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and > then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and > the system does something weir

CCC and Backups

2009-04-25 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and the system does something weird, wouldn't it be better to have a system to revert to? 2. Can CCC do this? 3. Does CCC copy things in a way that I can look

Chronosync & bootable backups

2008-10-05 Thread diane
An update to Dan's post to me on ChronoSync's non-bootable backup issue. I am working with version 4 beta and it does seem to be doing the job. First thing I did was a complete fresh install on new 500gb drive #1, then clone it to drive #2. Boots and operates fine. As I am reinstalled apps

Backups, Intent and practice, missing info.

2008-09-22 Thread Charles Davis
On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > snip > I agree, but I would like to see more discussion here of Time Machine > and Time Capsule. It seems that this technology is not yet fail- > safe. There have been recently, comments about "Time Machine" problems [various]. I.E it's NOT an

Backups, Intent and practice was --> Re: Thoughts on external firewire booting

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Davis
On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > snip > I agree, but I would like to see more discussion here of Time Machine > and Time Capsule. It seems that this technology is not yet fail- > safe. There have been recently, comments about "Time Machine" problems [various]. I.E it's NOT an