Hi Jim,
For what its worth I am just as stumped. I've got a laptop here with an
up to date copy of Windows 7 64-bit and I'm not experiencing this issue.
I've also tried them with the Windows 8 consumer beta, and its not a
problem. Plus every idea I can think of just seems to not to have any
Hi,
Sorry, but I am just totally stumped. The sapi speech is working as are the
arrow keys and the enter key with the VB6 input, but not with the DirectX
input. I can only get it to act like that using the enter key on the num pad,
but you said that your friend is using the enter key by the
Hi,
No, that wouldn't be an issue here. Windows 7 comes with the latest
version of directX 8, and when Winkit is installed it adds the proper
Visual Basic libraries as well. So DirectX isn't the issue here.
On 4/3/2012 6:48 PM, Paul Lemm wrote:
Hi,
It may have already been mentioned but on
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I mentioned several but was told they don't require the same things to run
them that Kitchens Inc games goes.
-Original Message-
From: Phil Vlasak
Sent: Tu
I mentioned several but was told they don't require the same things to run
them that Kitchens Inc games goes.
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From: Phil Vlasak
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
Hi MomaPeach,
The Kitchen game
It is just so weird, I am running the same, windows 7, 64 bit and all works
for me. Oh well, I just don't know.
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:15 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
Hi,
Weather the game is inst
Hi,
Weather the game is installed or not probably doesn't have anything to
do with it. Keep in mind the RS Client and Quentin's Playroom are not
written in Visual Basic. I think whatever is wrong with your friend's
games probably has to do with a Visual Basic compatibility issue with Win 7.
Hi MomaPeach,
The Kitchen games use your default SAPI voice.
My other question is can he play any other games?
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
He is usi
e because a lot of
this is over my head, but it just seems like he is missing something that is
needed. I have never heard of this happening before though.
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From: john
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
H
He can hear the text to speech voice, whichever one it is. Just can't hit
enter once he has chosen a game.
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From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:02 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
If that was the is
He is using whatever Kitchens Inc games start with, he hasn't change any of
the sappi voices.
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From: Phil Vlasak
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:53 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
Hi MamaPeach,
Can your friend play any games?
D
Clicking does mean hitting the enter key.
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From: Sid
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
hey, what do you mean by clicking on it? you should press enter then it
might work!
- Original Message
Have you, by any chance tried another keyboard? I'm kind of
grabbing at straws here, and I don't really see how that would be
the problem, but it might be worth a shot.
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From: "MamaPeach" Okay, I had him try to run the actual .exe file of a game in the
Program
Files
Unfortunately, that won't work as Jim's games are set up to allow
very easy management. If the application for the game isn't in
the folder with the winkit files, it won't show up on the list of
games to play.
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From: "Ron Schamerhorn" I think I recall what the issu
I can confirm this. It doesn't matter when you quit.
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From: Thomas Ward Hmmm...It shouldn't matter If he quits Jaws before or after the
game
starts. Once Jaws is unloaded it frees up the keyboard hooks it
uses to
monitor keyboard input and DirectInput can acquire ful
[Audyssey] Game Help
Hi MamaPeach,
Can your friend play any games?
Did he try Shades of Doom?
It could be that his SAPI voice is not set correctly to play Jim's games.
Does he use Microsoft Anna?
Phil
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hey, what do you mean by clicking on it
Hi MamaPeach,
Can your friend play any games?
Did he try Shades of Doom?
It could be that his SAPI voice is not set correctly to play Jim's games.
Does he use Microsoft Anna?
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hey, what do you mean by clicking on it? you should press enter then it
might work!
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Yep, that is where I had him i
Okay, I had him try to run the actual .exe file of a game in the Program
Files X86 Jim Kitchensinc folder and he still cannot click on the menu
options. He can arrow through them, but when he hits the enter key, nothing
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I wish, but he uses the enter key next to the letters, not the one on the
numpad.
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From: Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:55 PM
To: MamaPeach
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
Hi,
Ok, since the arrow keys are working, it is definitely not the Jaws thing
I haven't had him try that. I will get with him later today and give it a
go.
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From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
And, if you launch the games directly from thei
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Thanks but I remembered to do that because that is the only way I got them
to work for me when I installed them. He can see all of the games in the
game menu and he can click on the na
Hi,
Ok, since the arrow keys are working, it is definitely not the Jaws thing. How
about, in many of my games you must use the enter key next to the letters, not
the enter key on the number pad. Both will work in my game menu program and
some of the games but not others.
I hope that might h
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> From: Ron Schamerhorn
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
>
> Hey Mama Peach and all
>
> I think I recall what the issue might be your friend is having. Since
> Jim's games aut
, like
start game, exit, change voice, change rate, nothing.
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From: Ron Schamerhorn
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hey Mama Peach and all
I think I recall what the issue might be your friend is
's in should be. I just
remembered someone else having a similar issue. All that needs done is to
just copy the game files into the other folder.
HTH
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:40 PM
Sub
Hi,
Hmmm...It shouldn't matter If he quits Jaws before or after the game
starts. Once Jaws is unloaded it frees up the keyboard hooks it uses to
monitor keyboard input and DirectInput can acquire full control of the
keyboard. Although, it might be worth a try to test this just to be
sure. Ho
That is, in a word, bizarre. I've never encountered that problem on any
of my computers. Not even my newer laptop which has an AMD64 processor
and Windows 7 on it. I've even run several of Jim Kitchens games on my
Linux computers using Wine, the Windows emulator, without experiencing
that iss
list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
The only thing that springs to mind immediately is that Jaws or
another screen-reader might be interfering. If your friend can put the
screen-reader to sleep or just unload it while he plays, that would
likely do the trick. Just be certain that you
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
The only thing that springs to mind immediately is that Jaws or
another screen-reader might be interfering. If your friend can put the
screen-reader to sleep or just unload it while he plays, that would
likely do the trick. Just be certain tha
othing in the folder.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Shiny protector
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
>
> Maybe that might be the problem.
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> From: &
What, that he deleted it? This problem was happening before he deleted that
folder, plus there was absolutely nothing in the folder.
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From: Shiny protector
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Maybe that might be the problem.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Okay, he check to see what was in the Program Files 86 folder and it ended
up be
Okay, he check to see what was in the Program Files 86 folder and it ended
up being empty so he just deleted it.
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi,
It might be a problem
I am not sure, like what?
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From: Shiny protector
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hello,
This may sound stupid, but does this fellow person you are talking about
have something in his system
Okay, I just had him unload jaws and then start the game and still nothing.
The same thing happens, not able to click on menu options. I just don't
understand this at all.
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From: "MamaPeach"
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Yep, that is where I had him install them to. Here is what happened when
he tries to play.
He clicks on Kitchens Inc
.
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From: Pitermach
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:42 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi,
Maybe that person is running JAWS, and they don't quit or put it to
sleep before playing the game? That seems to cause issues with most
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
Please
Hi,
May I ask, does your friend start my game menu program and choose the game
to play from there?
Some of my games use Direct input and others just use the VB6 input. I am
just wondering if the game menu works for him.
Thanks
BFN
Jim
You just
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The kitchenSink games need to be installed under program files (x86) since
that's the sort of backward compatibility installation path for windows7
etc.
HTH
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body
at we have installed so
far, he can't go past the menu options because he cannot hit his enter key
with any results. The game just sits there..
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From: Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:36 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Please
Hi,
May I ask, does your friend start my game menu program and choose the game to
play from there?
Some of my games use Direct input and others just use the VB6 input. I am just
wondering if the game menu works for him.
Thanks
BFN
Jim
You just get used to life being a bitch, an
Hi,
Maybe that person is running JAWS, and they don't quit or put it to
sleep before playing the game? That seems to cause issues with most games.
On 3/31/2012 11:54 PM, MamaPeach wrote:
Hi Gamers,
A friend of mine is having a problem with a couple of games. We both
have installed the two gam
age -
From: "MamaPeach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Me either. It makes no sense. I noticed something when we were looking
around on his machine which is weird to me because my machine doesn'
administrator?
> This choice is found by using the context menu key, which is to the right of
> the space bar between the alt and control keys.
>
> Phil
>
> - Original Message - From: "MamaPeach"
> To: "Dean Masters" ; "Gamers Discussion list&quo
Hi,
It might be a problem. By default Windows 7 comes with Program files,
where 64-bit apps goes, and Program Files (x86), where 32-bit apps goes,
and the other directory shouldn't exist. I recommend he check what was
installed to Program Files (86), and then try and install them to the
prop
files 86
and the other is program files X86. I only have program files and program
files X86. Why would his have three and would this matter in any way?
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game
He does quit Jaws. Jaws is not even running.
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi,
Ok, I think I know what the problem might be. Is your friend running a
screen reader like
Hi,
Ouch! That blows my theory out of the water.
Apparently Michael had the same thought. I haven't a clue what to try next.
On 4/1/2012 11:17 PM, MamaPeach wrote:
He actually unloads Jaws all together so it isn't even running when he
tries to play these games.
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Hi,
Ok, I think I know what the problem might be. Is your friend running a
screen reader like Jaws. If so the way Jaws handles keyboard input it
conflicts with Microsoft DirectInput. The only way to resolve this
problem is to A, quit Jaws, or B, put Jaws to sleep while the game is
running. Th
He actually unloads Jaws all together so it isn't even running when he tries
to play these games.
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From: Michael Taboada
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi,
This is just a hunch, but
unday, April 01, 2012 9:59 PM
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Okay, here's an update on what is going on with this issue I wrote about
before. I had him install winkit from Kitchens Inc games along with all of
the games, because he wanted all of them installe
Okay, here's an update on what is going on with this issue I wrote about
before. I had him install winkit from Kitchens Inc games along with all of
the games, because he wanted all of them installed, and he installed the
Shades Of Doom demo and he is still experiencing the same problem. When he
Hi,
Yes. One of the easiest ways to get all or most of the Visual Basic
dependencies is to install Jim Kitchen's Winkit. So if you have
installed Winkit and he hasn't that would explain why you have most of
the dependencies and why he does not.
Cheers!
On 3/31/2012 11:52 PM, MamaPeach wrot
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi MamaPeach,
Did you install games on your computer that he hasn't installed on his?
If so, tell him to install them.
Another example is Swamp.
The instructions are a little complicate but it
tions make
the process easier.
Phil
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From: "MamaPeach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
But like I said, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit and they both work perfectly
fine o
what is needed to play some of the other games that are out there, such as
the things you mentioned, if he just installed the game?
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:12 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi
Hi,
That's not stupid at all. As long as you install from the primary
account and if UAC is disabled then you are running as an administrator.
You only have to use the "Run as Administrator" option if UAC is enabled
or you are attempting to install something from a standard account.
HTH
O
Hi,
Not necessarily. While Windows 7 comes with most of the DirectX 8
libraries the file dx8vb.dll was removed from DirectX quite some time
ago and does not ship with Windoews Vista, Windows 7,or Windows 8. So
confirming he has installed and registered that library manually would
go a long w
Hi,
Does he have all the required dependencies. By that I'm specifically
asking if he has installed the Visual Basic 6 and DirectXS 8 legacy
runtime libraries. If not that would be a good reason to fail. As as
Windows Vista Visual Basic 6 support libraries do not ship with newer
Microsoft Wi
is to the right of
the space bar between the alt and control keys.
Phil
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From: "MamaPeach"
To: "Dean Masters" ; "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
I am hoping tha
t: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
Hi,
It could be that those games were written in a language that isn't supported
by windows anymore such as Visual basic 6.
Some game companies have added vb6 libraries to their game installations
that fix that problem.
If you downloaded and installed Shades
ht of
the space bar between the alt and control keys.
Phil
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From: "MamaPeach"
To: "Dean Masters" ; "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
I am hoping that is
Well, he rebooted, and still is unable to click on anything in the main
menus of either Top Speed 3 or River Raiders. This is just baffling to me
and very frustrating for him. I have never encountered this kind of problem
before so I am not sure how to help him.
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Sometimes I have had this problem. I would restart my PC and then things
would work. So I guess it refreshes the ram enough to play the games.
Dean
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From: MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:54
Sometimes I have had this problem. I would restart my PC and then things
would work. So I guess it refreshes the ram enough to play the games.
Dean
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From: MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Game Help
Hi Gamers,
A friend of mine is having a problem with a couple of games. We both have
installed the two games, River Raiders and Top Speed 3. I am able to use the
games just fine. He, on the other hand, for some crazy reason, can't click
on a menu option to start the games or anything. Any idea
Hey the other night I downloaded AudiOdyssey from www.gambit.mit.edu.
It said that I could use a Wii remote to play the game instead of just
using the arrow keys on the keyboard, however the game works good with
the keyboard but when I connect my remote to the computer the game said
that no Wii
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