Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-12-02 Thread shaun everiss
Will we be able to write our own scripts. Since we are on screenreaders, you told me earlier you were going to do this for linux, make a distro something called pro speech, I guess this is along the same lines. At 03:12 PM 12/2/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Sky, If you mean my screen reader

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-12-01 Thread shaun everiss
true tom. However I fail to see why ms releases xp and vista in the same year. I'd rather get xpsp3 and then later sp4 rather than vista. Would be different if ms just said xp was going to die real soon, but its life has been extended. And by the time xpsp4 dies if xpsp4 actually comes out, there

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-12-01 Thread shaun everiss
I will be interested to test and maybe help develop the reader, maybe learn how to script. I have all sdks I just havn't got round to reading the manuals for things. At 03:26 PM 12/1/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Fortunately, for me I am working on a screen reader which I will replace the

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Sky, If you mean my screen reader project I am developing it for Windows 2000, XP, and Vista. Right now it isn't much better than Windows narater , but it is coming along slowly. Btw. when it is ready for 1.0 release I plan to offer it as a free download, and unlike Thunder I plan to script

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, How about we move the screen reader discussion over to the USA Games discussion list since it is or will be one of my products. However, since I have this email open here is a little blurb about it. The screen reader right now isn't to the point I would replace Jaws or Window Eyes

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, short answer is because it is Microsoft. They need a good reason to have everyone pay for an upgrade and get features they probably don't need or want. If you stick with XP and get SP3 which is f ree Microsoft isn't getting any money out of that. Therefore Vista is what you will end up

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Fortunately, for me I am working on a screen reader which I will replace the expensive screen readers with, and once I am able to actually get my hands on vista I can test how much of the access API MS broke and I need to fix. However, my screen reader project here isn't stable all

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-30 Thread Sky Taylor
Will it work on XP? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Shaun, Fortunately, for me I am working on a screen reader which I

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-29 Thread Ari
PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? The answer is simple. MS is doing what it always has. Look at the current Windows. XP has been out for some time now, yet there were still service packs for Windows 2k which

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ari, Thanks for the post. This was a very good one, and I am glad to here the news. It is something posative in favor of vista. Ari wrote: I've eventually found some articles. Have selected some interesting parts below. However, one feature that hasn't racked up many column inches is the

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah, and given a choice I would probably still pick 2K over XP except most of the development stuff for .NET is geared for XP and Vista. Raul A. Gallegos wrote: The answer is simple. MS is doing what it always has. Look at the current Windows. XP has been out for some time now, yet there

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Snip the vista interface if thats like ie7 with toolbars that can't turn off and search boxes that are core components, I wouldn't upgrade, I'd rather get xp... End Snip You are getting the point. The Vista interface is basically a fully integrated Internet Exploder 7 which is

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah, that was funny. I was in college then and I remember when that happened. I also remember evaluating 98 1st eddition at campass to see how it worked with access. Answer was noth very much, and it crashed on the test machine constantly. Bryan Peterson wrote: I just thought it was

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, A caution. Much of what has been said is informed speculation. Meaning speculation compiled based on information those known or asumed to be true. We won't know the status until someone gets Vista and starts putting the games to the test. Although, I will scope out the DirectX 10 sdk

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yeah, with sp3 for XP on the way and someday perhaps a sp4 XP should still have quite a bit of life in it. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Yohandy
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Shaun, Yeah, with sp3 for XP on the way and someday perhaps a sp4 XP should still have quite a bit of life

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread shaun everiss
well its disgusting. Since xp will stay around for an age yet I'm not to worried. However For now I hate the ie7 interface, I really do. We will see in the next little while when I spend the dough on screenreaders. At 05:54 AM 11/29/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Snip the vista interface if

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread shaun everiss
original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Shaun

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread shaun everiss
This ofcause puts the question why ms is releasing vista at all when there are 2 more or at least 1 definate service pack of xp coming. This should give everyone time to adapt to vista, who knows maybe we will be passed vista by then. Maybe someone will find ways to make the more anoying

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
The answer is simple. MS is doing what it always has. Look at the current Windows. XP has been out for some time now, yet there were still service packs for Windows 2k which in many ways was even more stable than XP itself. Releasing Vista is no different. MS will support XP for a while yet

[Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Ari
Hi guys, I don't know whether this has been discussed while I was away, but I'd like to tell you guys about this interesting article I read in a computer magazine about gaming on Windows Vista. First, DirectX 10 will only be made to support Vista. Another thing is that, not knowing if I

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ari, Mind you not all of what I am about to say here I am totally sure about, but I've been looking over the beta sdks for Vista and it is going to prove to be quite a bit different from the 98/2000/XP era of Windows. First major change, from a programming standpoint, is that most of the

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Ari
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Ari, Mind you not all of what I am about to say here I am totally sure about, but I've been

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ari, The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Liam, Yeah, I usually wait as well. I wait for the dust to settle and for the issues to be discovered to upgrade. As I recall I used Windows 2000 up until late 2003 or early 2004 before I went XP, and it had already been out a while so I usually don't rush in to upgrades. Especially what

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread Bryan Peterson
the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Liam, Yeah, I usually

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread shaun everiss
no I havn't heard anything. However if this article rings true it means that games for the blind will have to stay at dx9 level for now. Either that or have dx9 and 10 support for backward compatibility. I doubt that I will upgrade to vista and in deed upgrade for a few years yet. Its taken me 4

Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista?

2006-11-27 Thread shaun everiss
don't blame microsoft for not supporting it in Vista. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? Hi Ari, The entire problem with Vista