gEDA-user: what does holding ctrl mean while drawing lines?

2007-12-02 Thread Ben Jackson
I noticed EnforceLineDRC bugs out if control is held, so I figured it would let me join rogue vias and so on. Instead, holding control seems to prevent the line from being displayed as I move the mouse, and when I ultimately click I get one segment at an arbitrary angle. What's the deal? --

gEDA-user: big bug in group move fixed (pcb)

2007-12-02 Thread Ben Jackson
I just fixed: [ 1753280 ] sometimes you can't move a line up/left from start Which turns out to actually be a much more general problem when you drag groups containing only lines, arcs, texts and polygons. The region you were restricted to was wrong. It was most obvious before you

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Dan and all, On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: Werner Hoch wrote: Yes, but I'd still would like to have a standard binary format. hdf5 would be nice. http://hdf.ncsa.uiuc.edu/products/hdf5/index.html How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out

Re: gEDA-user: big bug in group move fixed (pcb)

2007-12-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:47:10 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: I just fixed: [ 1753280 ] sometimes you can't move a line up/left from start great! :-) This bug was really bad, indeed. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology update

2007-12-02 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi DJ, Looks good so far, keep on doing the Good Thing (tm) ;-) IMHO, the last sentence in Terminology:DRC is a bit harsh on the first time users we are trying to encourage. OTOH, it is a realistic scenario to encounter (done that, been there as a first time user). However, it is better to

Re: gEDA-user: printing solder layer only, mirrored

2007-12-02 Thread tj
Yea, after I printed it mirrored and looked at it I realized I didn't want it mirrored, duh. First time at trying this and learning every step of the way. tj Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 13:20 -0500, tj wrote: How do I print only the solder layer mirrored? I don't need to

Re: gEDA-user: always build a prototype!

2007-12-02 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thursday 09 August 2007 09:01:28 pm Bob Paddock wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:35, DJ Delorie wrote: I hooked up the bigger OLED to the protoboard today, and it didn't work. Just found a note that Osram will no longer be making the OLED displays I'm using. Sigh. Yeah, that is

gEDA-user: [PCB] DRC - why is it modal?

2007-12-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
Is there a reason why PCB's DRC pops a modal dialog for every violation and refuses to move forward? That is... ummm tedious... Would it be difficult to re-engineer DRC to operate in a batch mode? What I would like to see is a new DRC reports window that all of the violations are posted

Re: gEDA-user: www.gedasymbols.org unreachable?

2007-12-02 Thread John Coppens
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) Michael Stovenour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else having trouble reaching http://www.gedasymbols.org/? I was just on it this morning, but now it appears unreachable. Yep - won't work here either. John

gEDA-user: www.gedasymbols.org unreachable?

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Stovenour
Anyone else having trouble reaching http://www.gedasymbols.org/? I was just on it this morning, but now it appears unreachable. Oh, that looks like it is on DJ's network. I've read so much about gEDA this morning that I think my head will explode anyway. Time to go put out Christmas

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: iverilog and Xilinx 8.2

2007-12-02 Thread Stephen Williams
Daniel O'Connor wrote: [moved to -user] On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Stephen Williams wrote: 2) This looks like a problem long since fixed. Version? I originally had 0.8.5 - I tried 0.8.6 but no change. [inchoate 13:55] ~/projects/verilog-0.8.6 iverilog -V Icarus Verilog version 0.8.6 ($Name: $)

Re: gEDA-user: www.gedasymbols.org unreachable?

2007-12-02 Thread John Griessen
Michael Stovenour wrote: Anyone else having trouble reaching http://www.gedasymbols.org/? It's up now, (1:01PM central). From TX. JG -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: always build a prototype!

2007-12-02 Thread DJ Delorie
http://www.osddisplays.com Yay! Also, it turns out that one of my fellow local woodworkers works for Sylvania Osram, so he took a bunch of photos of my alarm clock to give to the OLED folks. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] DRC - why is it modal?

2007-12-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Is there a reason why PCB's DRC pops a modal dialog for every violation and refuses to move forward? That is... ummm tedious... Because nobody had change it yet. We've talked about creating a drc layer that's populated by the DRC engine and then managed through the GUI. Would it be

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread KURT PETERS
Dan, All that is required in JRE 1.5 or higher... gjc is not JRE 1.5 or higher, 1.4.2 is not JRE 1.5 or higher. The funny thing is that a dependency of KJWaves is jfreechart which is releases under, guess what, LGPL -- seems like others can accept dependence on a single distributer of the

Re: gEDA-user: always build a prototype!

2007-12-02 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sunday 02 December 2007 02:03:52 pm DJ Delorie wrote: http://www.osddisplays.com Yay! Also, it turns out that one of my fellow local woodworkers works for Sylvania Osram, so he took a bunch of photos of my alarm clock to give to the OLED folks. To encourage to make more of them I hope?

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread KURT PETERS
Al, I just checked again. Where is it requested? I checked both bug reports and feature request. Don't see it under either. Under features, I just see (most of which are already supported): Several Y axis for plot differents waves with different range, for example I(0-10mA), V(0-10V),

Re: gEDA-user: www.gedasymbols.org unreachable?

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Stovenour
Ah. I use lm-sensors for that. Also tells me when I have a fan go bad. - Original Message From: DJ Delorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; geda-user@moria.seul.org Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2007 1:07:43 PM Subject: Re: gEDA-user: www.gedasymbols.org unreachable? Anyone else

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] DRC - why is it modal?

2007-12-02 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 09:35:33AM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: Is there a reason why PCB's DRC pops a modal dialog for every violation and refuses to move forward? That is... ummm tedious... It's actually a non-modal dialog, DJ changed my snarky quote. If it were modal, you wouldn't be able

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] DRC - why is it modal?

2007-12-02 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: Is there a reason why PCB's DRC pops a modal dialog for every violation and refuses to move forward? That is... ummm tedious... Because nobody had change it yet. We've talked about creating a drc layer that's populated by the DRC engine and then managed through the

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] DRC - why is it modal?

2007-12-02 Thread DJ Delorie
If you can figure out what to do with the results, probably not. Not sure I understand your comment. I was referring to the GUI aspect of it. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread evan foss
On Dec 2, 2007 7:40 PM, Peter Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 15:10 +, Peter Clifton wrote: Here is another teaser.. http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/gerbv_translucent.png And another... This is getting less useful, but more pretty..

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread John Griessen
Peter Clifton wrote: This uses Cairo to render into a memory buffer, and then we use that on a GL context created with GtkGLExt. I mainly knocked this up to play with some OpenGL coding, and as a test for a 3D SpaceNavigator joystick (6 axis, used for navigating 3D objects / worlds).

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread evan foss
Do you have the option of disabling the opengl code at run time if you want or is it compiled in? -- http://www.coe.neu.edu/~efoss/ http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 19:18 -0600, John Griessen wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: This uses Cairo to render into a memory buffer, and then we use that on a GL context created with GtkGLExt. I mainly knocked this up to play with some OpenGL coding, and as a test for a 3D

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 20:42 -0500, evan foss wrote: Do you have the option of disabling the opengl code at run time if you want or is it compiled in? Not only is it compiled in, the board size is hard-coded. (Its a demo so far..) I wanted to see how fast it might work with different rendering

Re: gEDA-user: gschem, howto prevent generation of .sch~ backup files?

2007-12-02 Thread al davis
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Peter Clifton wrote: I'm not sure I wholly agree here. /tmp is often cleared by the distro on bootup, and an auto-save backup ought to survive a power-failure incident. If /tmp is might be cleared on the next boot, we should avoid saving such important files

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out 30,000 node voltages and be able to pick out one to plot without it taking a long time?  I don't know the answer, but it seems like a binary format could have advantages there.

Re: gEDA-user: gschem, howto prevent generation of .sch~ backup files?

2007-12-02 Thread Nathan Kohagen
Dave N6NZ said the following on 11/29/2007 06:56 PM: ... It may be possible to add an option not to make them though -- please file a feature request. The OP suggested eliminating them. But while I agree with the OP that they are obnoxious, I agree with you that they should exist. I will

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread evan foss
On Dec 2, 2007 9:47 PM, Peter Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 20:42 -0500, evan foss wrote: Do you have the option of disabling the opengl code at run time if you want or is it compiled in? Not only is it compiled in, the board size is hard-coded. (Its a demo so

gEDA-user: min annular ring vs drill to copper distance

2007-12-02 Thread Ben Jackson
Apparently min annular ring is applied to the surface layers and drill to copper distance is applied to inner layers. Their literal quote: Comment: When a plated hole is too close to copper features the plated hole may short to the copper feature. The plated hole to

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv - not reading format

2007-12-02 Thread Julian
Frank, It looks like the RS274x manual has sloppy code in it. The G04 code in line 1 is supposed to end with a * at the end of the line to signal it is finished (see section on G-codes in the manual). gerbv keeps reading until it finds a *, which made it advance past the FS statement in the

Re: gEDA-user: min annular ring vs drill to copper distance

2007-12-02 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 08:55:17PM -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: On the other hand it could just indicate an error in their DRC that's interpreting the negative layer wrong at that step. Eg for thermalled vias, it's showing an error where there's thermal relief... Or it COULD be that I set the

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-02 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Peter, On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 02:39 +, Peter Clifton wrote: I do have the urge (but not time) to find some 3D models for components. I do happen to have made some 400+ 3D models of components with Autocad for the purpose of just being able to check on height dimensions, the models can