and what your mileage
is ;-)
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uting.net is
> > pretty awesome.
>
I still have issues with examples/LED.pcb getting imported without tweaking,
the dsn exporter should work straight "out-of-the-box" without massaging
quotes and other tweaks.
> Great!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --
> Pe
Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover
> http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de
> -> not happy with moderation of geda-user mailinglist
>
>
>
Got pcb-20110916-2.exe zooming too with:
- Keys "z" and "Z"
- Pull down menu
- Scroll wheel
Thanks guys.
Kind regards
> A better solution would be to use locale agnostic string
> processing routines here.
>
>
> --
> Peter Clifton
>
> Electrical Engineering Division,
> Engineering Department,
> University of Cambridge,
> 9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
> Cambridge
> CB3 0FA
>
>
er tool-specific details needed (just defining copper
> areas/pads, pins/holes, solder mask and paste, silk screen lines).
>
> Regards,
> Colin
>
>
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rday evening I looked into this for a couple of hours, without coming
up with a solution.
Just tested your commits, it's a confirmed fix.
Did you include LP bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/844635 or are
these patches still standing ?
As a side effect I see that I can now add more new styles, dunno how much
that was before yoru commits though.
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Seems a silly
> detail to me, but that's how it's set up on github.
>
>
Yes, you're right, I accedentally gave the git clone URI.
Sorry if I wasted some of your spare cycles.
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tch to scratch could put something up on github today.
>
>
Some of us have been there, done just that, and for some time:
https://github.com/fruoff/pcb-fruoff.git
https://github.com/jaredcasper/pcb.git
https://github.com/peter-b/geda-gaf.git
https://github.com/bert/pcb.git
And maybe som
changes in upstream
pcb git-HEAD.
I will try to look into it and get it to compile against at least the latest
stable release 20100929.
Patches are welcome @ https://launchpad.net/pcb-plugins , or better, include
them plugins in upstream ;-)
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
in using "Z" or "z".
2) No transparency (GL) supported.
3) When loading a layout the file selector only displays the icons for the
top 1 or 2 files/directories and the remaining entries only when hovered
over (having focus).
4) the big font issue ... (probably solved in t
er an inside layer is on the same side as "[solder,
component] side" by accident.
See pull down menu: File --> Preferences ... --> Layers --> Groups
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not changed for the better.
No need to spend time/effort for the geda-devs to fix a broken "dead end".
Better create a non-modal popup dialog when neeeded, instead of a tear-off
menu.
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
I think tear-offs are very useful in cautiously selected GUI designs a
wpsoftware.net
> Web: http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/
>
>
Looks nice ;-)
I assume that "ground" is the active layer ?
BTW, we could truncate layernames in buttons:
"solder mask"--> "mask"
"rat lines" --> "rats"
"pins/
without "rectangles" is the
improvement we are looking for, and we should exploit screen real estate
more aggressively and maybe even go as far as truncate layernames to 6..8
chars.
Whatever we change, we should keep the (shortened) layernames in the button
to assist our colourblind users.
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googled for a datasheet and found one from Diodes, page 4 gives 1.39 mm by
1.40 mm for the "left" and "right" pads, so this "FreeRotateBuffer()"
Heisenbug should go away by itself.
Oh, and the marker is not in the Centre Of Gravity, so no easy
pick-and-place part from a 5000 units / tape & reel ;-)
@KMK: there are no "half bugs", bugs are boolean by nature, so either "0" or
"1" should do ;-)
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c.
There happens to be a app for this at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicladder/
I've made some ladder diagram symbols for use with gschem:
https://github.com/bert/gschem-symbols/tree/master/ladder
Have fun ;-)
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>
>
>
Hmm,
ftp://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/pub/grace/src/devel/gracegtk-0.3.1_2011_03_
29_10h08.tgz
Has a date: 03/29/2011 09:20 2,554,540
gracegtk-0.3.1_2011_03_29_10h08.tgz
Seems to need 2.12 < gtk <2.16 so YMMV
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>
>
FWIW, I have saved this shell script for generating schematic pages into
symbols.
To be found at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/downloads/geda_sch2sym.tar.gz
#!/bin/bash
# gEDA - GNU E
g to code a pcb footprint plug into the existing Kicad module
editor "fped"
Have a clone at:
https://github.com/bert/fped.git
It's currently still a work in progress: I have to split up the multifile
Kicad modules and cross check the whole thing over.
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
regarding fped can be found here:
http://people.openmoko.org/werner/fped/gui.html and here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/PCB/fped
The source lives here:
http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/eda/fped/
I'm trying to code a footprint wizard myself at:
https://github.
Clifton
>
> Electrical Engineering Division,
> Engineering Department,
> University of Cambridge,
> 9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
> Cambridge
> CB3 0FA
>
> Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)
> Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)
>
e
are not mandatory, I think the devs like to work without pressure of
calender deadlines ;-).
The positive side effect can be that it keeps traffic on both geda-dev and
geda-user low, and ideas can be tracked for progress.
Just my EUR 0.02
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
_
orums before.
>
>
>
Nice that you start up your own things in such a short time.
Maybe it's an idea to look into minor and major grid lines or dots, as was
introduced in gschem some time ago.
This, and the nice font rendering, are
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>
If the "lock" mechanism is not broken, please do not try to fix it ;-)
This is a great opportunity to create all sorts of "Heis
tasheets from vendors.
One of Tom's "issues" that is to be kept in pcb are most of the mil grids
because of the bazillion perf board and mil based parts on the market, to be
bought for cheap by hobby-ists, or for "Quick-and-Neat" proto boards (we
don't play or do dirty ;-).
Just my opinion on the subject.
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t; > calculation and newer ones has thermal specification in file?
> >
> > This opens discussion how/what to specify.
> >
> > Martin Kupec
>
> Is there a way to support both compatibly? If the data is to
> be specified, it will need to be stored in the design
15 11
gnucap-2009-12-07-tools.tar.gz 1021-118 14
(incomplete)
IMHO:
1) the 147 k D/Ls looks like a (realistic ?) number of total D/L for all
gEDA related packages and files ever.
2) SF math s*cks !
I hope Launchpad does it's math better.
Just m
e,
> Cambridge
> CB3 0FA
>
> Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)
> Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)
>
>
Maybe we are targetting the "wrong" OS ;-(
Maybe the unofficial windows ports are more important th
mmited".
Could anyone please give some clarification ?
Let us avoid unnecessary rework on the status of bugs before these bugs drop
out of sight.
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users IDs, existing on both systems (LP + SF), a merge needs to
be confirmed from SF in some unclear way.
- maybe add a short list what status means what in LP on a wiki page
pointing to LP / or on LP itself, we do not all speak English as a native
language.
Or should I report these in the LP bug
DA-user: Wiki cleanup?
>
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
> > Would it be possible to
> >> provide the pages on gpleda.org itself?
>
> > That can be done, it's just a couple of MB to upload.
>
> Question to the maintainers of gpleda.org(*):
> Would it
Hi Kai-Martin ,
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of
> Kai-Martin Knaak
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:30 PM
> To: geda-u...@seul.org
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Wiki cleanup
ating power pins with pn numbers in the file/link
name:
http://www.luciani.org/geda/util/util-index.html#create-np-symbols
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> Regards,
> Mark
> markra...@gmail
> --
> Mark Rages, Engineer
> Midwest Telecine LLC
> markra...@midwesttelecine.com
>
>
Which reminds me I have to upgrade the pcb dox at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/gaf/dox.html
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>
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
> >> pcb feature request: Please put all the gerbers in a dedicated
> >> subdir of the working directory by default. The name of the subdir
> >> should be configurable.
> >
> > Is doable.
> >
Hi Kai-Martin,
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of
> kai-martin knaak
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 4:32 AM
> To: geda-u...@seul.org
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values
Hi devs and users,
Subject says it all.
Patches can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3148827&group_id=73743&atid=
538813
Or here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/downloads/pcb-dutch/
Kind regards,
Be
o not delve into SF to see the names that
could/should be mentioned.
Think of evolution, not of revolution ...
Many small steps may be even better than one big leap.
Just my EUR 0.02 on the subject.
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d with distributions like Ubuntu? If
> not, then it may be easier for people to install the whole
> gEDA package than to get such a short ruby script running. :-(
>
> Best wishes for the new year,
>
> Stefan Salewski
>
Congrat
th zero
length pins.
The possibilites are endless as gschem offers great flexibility ;-)
IMHO Users should take care of the needed "content" for thier own purposes,
the gEDA suite itself only has to offer a basic set of symbols/footprints to
get users started, and encourage sharing "
oporouter
> crashing in GIThead on seemingly simple circuits)
>
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
> > Why not create a wikibook ?
>
> Great idea!
> I am in for starting such a book.
> Also count me in for tips and tricks of wikipedia formating.
> My "other" co
flow will fail
> somewhere down the road with unspecific symptoms. This is a
> nasty, but long standing newbie trap that really should be
> defused one way or another.
+1
> Please comment.
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---
> --
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> Öffent
he lab!)
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>
>
>
Why not create a wikibook ?
So everybody can join in on the fun, and add their tidbits.
Have a look at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Subject:Electrical_engineering
gEDA could be ahead of the "competition
ubject: Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random
> thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]
>
> On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:46 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
> >
> ...
> > your personal dev-blog), on-line editing files, etc etc --> Github
> > rocks,
> ..
1's) could "git cherry-pick" from these forks (after discussion,
prodding, tweaking etc. and final agreement) with a couple of mouse clicks
that would be nice
Github has automated pull requests, fork queues, an integrated issues
system, configurable post commit hooks
chining time down to less than 50%.
>
> Yes, this would be a very welcome addition. Is there a pure C
> library with this stuff available somewhere? Java or C++
> isn't an option for inclusion with gEDA.
>
http://www.qhull.org
There happens to live a git repo her
se.com/thing:3559
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3372
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3363
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2982 Printable RC filter redux (should have
been done with pcb)
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2360
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1904 Parametric QF Breakout Board (should
have been done with pcb)
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1716
Just my EUR 0.02
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o though ;-)
Nah, thanks, I think it's a bit too expensive on memory and IMHO vertexes
resemble "minced meat" --> try putting it together to get the original cow
;-)
I'd rather have 3D primitives like cubes, cylinders, spheres, toroids etc.
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Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53
>
>
Have a look at:
http://openscad.org/
And the beginning of an OpenSCAD exporter for pcb, on top of a recent
(current) clone of the pcb git repository:
https://github.com/bert/pcb-opensca
ck easy copying mostly,
> not very good for revising designs.
> They mostly use STL. Reprap is the group that's been
> promoting openscad lately.
>
> I prefer HeeksCAD for the python interface. I'm adding a
> feature to that python interface to
ers by definition
extrude (possibly non-conductive) plastics).
OTOH, there is Blender, BRL-CAD, HeeksCAD to name a few.
3) I there any insight where to place the bet for our pcb monies (and coding
time) ?
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> Richard
>
FWIW, a large amount of graphics memory is one thing, my 256 Mb graphics
memory is shared memory which is contributing to the total performance
equation.
I still have to start the prcess of fine tuning modelines and BIOS to get
the max performance wrung out of the HW.
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Bert Timmerman
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:35 PM
> To: 'gEDA user mailing list'
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers
ease test)
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 14:35 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote:
> > I tried the above and ran into trouble with the requirement
> of gtkglext-1.0:
> > there seems to be no such RPM package available for Fedora 13 ;-(
>
> I'm running Fedora 13 and h
ignal in the lab!)
> Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)
>
>
>
I tried the above and ran into trouble with the requirement of gtkglext-1.0:
there seems to be no such RPM package available for Fedora 13 ;-(
So I will try to find (or build) and install a pa
x. 31 person years effort (http://www.ohloh.net/p/gEDA)
Pcb approx. 32 person years effort (http://www.ohloh.net/p/pcb)
The difference in LOC is not much larger:
gEDA approx. 126k LOC (excluding blanks and comments).
Pcb approx. 127K LOC (excluding blanks and commen
://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53
>
Avoiding the command line won't help you on the gschem --> simulation work
flow.
Loosing potential users due to a command like thing is probably something a
lot of *nix apps and tools suffer from.
I can't help people
t the bend of a through hole
resistor.
Chip capacitors and resistors are easy: just some cubes ;-)
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Evan Foss
> Sent: Saturda
http://github.com/bert/openscad
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Bert Timmerman.
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of
> Vanessa Ezekowitz
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 5:56 PM
> To: geda-user@moria.seul.
OK,
I'm corrected and happy for us ;-)
Anyone volunteering for the difficult part ?
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Bert Timmerman.
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Jones
> Sent: Friday, O
al CAD I would rather put
my money on IDF.
Maybe Blender, OpenSCAD or BRL-CAD should become our 3D-friends ?
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie
> Sent:
I try to work out a proof-of-concept board to investigate the feasibility.
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10
Export layout... // here follows the Brady bunch of all available
exporters ;)
--
Close layout Ctrl-W // if and when multiple layouts are supported ;-)
Close all layouts // if and when multiple layouts are supported ;-)
Exit Alt+X //
But it isn't, so it's just my EUR 0.02 on the subject.
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ile-filter in open-dialog
>
> Hi Bert,
>
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
> > Commit message says it all:
> > Apply filters to load filechooser dialogs. [1988982] [2686963]
> >
> > Applies filters to the filechooser dialogs when
> loading layouts,
> &
o the
> sourceforge-patch-tracker now because I think, this Patch is
> not really essential. If it is easier for you if I send all
> my patches to the tracker, please send me a message and I
> will add this one (and all later patches)!
>
Commit message says it all:
Author: Bert Ti
much better general tool.
>
> Rick
>
>
For a pcb FootPrint Wizard have a look at:
http://github.com/bert/pcb-fpw
For the sources (git).
A manual with screenshots can be found at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/pcb-fpw/user-manual.html
I
element defining the height.
Something like: Attribute ("element_height=", "5 mm")
And write a plugin for parsing all elements and exporting this (and other)
attribute as key-value pairs to whatever file (format) you can think of for
further processing (mechanical DRC).
Kind
ds here),
2) placing parts op [top, bottom, buried components] in the keepout area for
reasons of clashing with mounting holes, other parts courtyard (real
estate), underlying stripline antennas, diff pair traces and other EMC
reasons.
Just my EUR 0.02
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
stment
> capability (fill
> in thickness, stray capacitance and desired impedance, and
> the width is
> adjusted to satisfy the conditions).
>
> * Integrated footprint lookup and fetch from gedasymbols.org.
>
>
> Might be a bit much and a bit difficult, but at least for me,
> it would
> promote PCB from "very good" to "absolutely awesome". ;)
>
>
I got one feature request to add: pad corners with a radius smaller than
(0.5 * trace_width).
And a question: is someone keeping a list of these feature requests on the
gEDA dev wiki page ?
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:todos
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exporter for either XML or IDF ;-)
The same goes for a IPC-356 compliant test point data exporter, a DXF import
plug-in, a DXF exporter and the list goes on and on.
Too much ideas and sparse free time.
Just my EUR 0.02
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ernal file or to be embedded.
The analogy of embedded/unembedded symbols in gschem comes to mind.
I never have applied symbols recursively though (symbols within symbols
within symbols), other than in the form of hierarchical multisheet
schematics (symbols pointing to schematics containing s
Hi,
There happens to be a newer version (1998) of the IDF specification:
http://www.simplifiedsolutionsinc.com/images/idf_v40_spec.pdf
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman
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> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On
ave a "truly" exchangable XML file.
I think that for an exchangable format for schematic capture, pcb layout
__and__ 3D mechanical CAD stuff the "problem" is waaay to big to grasp in a
forthnight and DIY.
And there happens to be a standard of sorts which does just that, named ID
Hi all,
For on-line gEDA developer documentation generated with Doxygen have a look
at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/gaf/dox.html
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
BTW: you all know where to post your patches with Doxygenn comments ;-)
> -Original Message-
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(and usability
> in general)
>
> Bert Timmerman wrote:
>
> > Maybe a single button would do to open a popup dialog to
> alter layer
> > settings.
> >
> > Maybe something like this screenshot from AutoCAD:
> >
> >
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4t
Hi,
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Armin Faltl
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:04 PM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Specification of Rotations for Auto Assembly
>
>
>
> Ri
o open a popup dialog to alter layer
settings.
Maybe something like this screenshot from AutoCAD:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljh4timm/downloads/Layer_properties_manager.jpg
Just the 5 left columns and the right most would do the trick.
Regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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gt; * "Conductor" is of course too specific here, given that we
> have users that design hydraulics with gschem.
>
> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> j...@noqsi.com
>
>
"Conduit" comes close ;-)
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Bert Timmerman.
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> Kai-Martin Knaak
> Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53
>
>
Intermediate Data Format (IDF) may be a viable solution, some main stream
CAD applications use it or have import/export functionality for IDF.
The format is des
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Steven
> Michalske
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:19 AM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report
>
> I
e
stuff)
Tail:
Not enough contributors/contributions to gain any/enough leverage against
the bazzillion parts out there.
I have been there, done that, that is where we are at the moment ;-)
I will see how well this goes, things can only get better, for now I scratch
my own itch with gEDA and any "Automation" I can think of for myself.
Just my EUR 0.02
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Bert Timmerman.
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an further think of (gpinout).
Oh, and I bundled some pcb plug-ins.
All to be found at http://www:github.com/bert
Most of these projects are half baked, you (both the lists) are all invited
to bake the other half.
This because my spare time is becoming "sparse time"
Kind rega
> all the gathering, licensing, testing, and documenting to do.
>
>
Have a look at:
http://github.com/bert/pcb-plugins
And please read README.plug-ins for instructions.
License texts included ;-)
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
BTW: patches are welcome
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is first attempt to code something in C is worth
half that much ;-)
IMHO, it might be better to do the pcb2dxf stuff as a plug-in.
At one moment in time it did actually compile (with a lot warnings) but the
resulting files were wrong, that is, they didn't load into AutoCAD.
I never found e
Hi DJ, and all,
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?
>
>
> > If we want to o
vel, which is two levels upstream. This should be done
by gattrib/gparts.
BTW2: The "transistor" problem has to be solved at the same upstream level
(2). Just call pins "e", "b", "c" in the schematic and let gattrib/gparts
sort out the pin mapping. Users sh
+44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)
> Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)
>
>
5. *all* the impatient geda-users can apply the patches to their local
repository themselves, and have a test drive, without having to poke
sourceforge.
6. *all* impatient geda-devs
of Gene.
Another tactic may be to elongate the reporting interval when the "bike
under thread" remains in a assigned "safe zone" (for bike theft there are no
safe zones in the Netherlands).
It could work with timing intervals of 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2
hours etc.
W
s
without Biketheft Protection Chip (BPC), and EUR 85 with BPC for the same
period.
Maybe you can guestimate the price any consumer in my area would pay for
your device ;-) based on above figures.
Bike theft is one of the most commited (and not resolved) crimes in the
Netherlands.
Kind regards
and
> other (was "Re: gattrib")
>
> Hi,
>
> attached is a 1st version of the table definitions. The file
> should be self-documenting.
>
> Armin
>
Did you have a stab at:
git clone git://git.gpleda.org/gpar
on your own.
It's boils down to "Free and Open Source Software" versus " Controlled
Repositories and Distribution Channels".
More useful features were dropped in the history of GTK, and will be.
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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still have "Clippy" ringing in my ears from some other mail thread
the other day ;-)
If you need artwork to go along with the dialog we can have a contest for
the most pcb-like "assistant".
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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as Microsoft Windows XP (SP3) with a recent
cygwin (new release and build system).
This one has automake-1.11.1 and autoconf-2.65 and AFAICT here things
work as you advocate ;-)
I had to configure with --disable-doc and
--disable-update-desktop-database to get things working here.
I hope
file in the process).
Just my EUR 0.02
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Armin Faltl
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:57 AM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
in the above.
In this mode all sorts of not specific stuff could be ignored and specific
commands could be honed into the exact syntax needed.
Just my EUR 0.02 on the subject :)
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman
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your forkqueue :-)
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hawkins
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:13 AM
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> Subj
ectivity
(nets), adding the right attributes and invoking a scheme backend with
netlist to do your preprocessing and solver stuff (this is the real
challenge, not the schematics).
Just my EUR 0.02
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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> From: geda-user-bo
Hi Bob,
Do not discuss patents here please !
This is highly contageous and attracts law suits.
Without the mentioning of patents the general idea would have come across as
well.
Kind regards,
Bert Timmerman.
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outdo Eagle or any other closed source app, only a
*huge* effort needs to be made.
As it is now we can't even setup a decent mirror system for stuff without
donations, and even donations sponsored source improvements go slow (LF).
The "scratch-your-own-itch" attitu
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