Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes

2011-01-05 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes: I'd prefer a spice-prototype attribute, which would allow us to avoid many of the difficulties without a confusing proliferation of attributes. For the symbol nmos-3.sym, a suitable prototype might be: M? #D #G #S #S $model-name L= W= AS= AD= PS= PD= M=

Re: gEDA-user: PCB bug: invisibly select pads from deactivated far side

2011-01-05 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: The operation is select. PCB doens't know *why* you're selecting, it's just selecting everything in a region. If you select the *element* should it select the *whole* element, or just part of the element? It is possible to make parts of an element

gEDA-user: PCB bug: invisibly select pads from deactivated far side

2011-01-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
PCB 20100929 Debian Sid When selecting elements (whatever) by left-draging a rectangle over the canvas, pads on the deactivated far side are selected invisibly as well. A subsequent ChangeClearSize(selectedpads,...) also changes the invisibly selected pads on the backside. My boardhouse told

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: I created this symbol, it's the 74-series version of the 4066 (4 bilateral switches), called 744066 (as in 74LV4066, for example): Symbol /Symbol The documentation of the symbol can be found at

Re: gEDA-user: PCB bug: invisibly select pads from deactivated far side

2011-01-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: Make the far side hidden before selecting. That's the point, I did! The pads select anyway. Also, see MinMaskGap() to fix solder mask openings :-) Well, I couldn't. I can only use actions that I know about. :-( -- Stephan

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk writes: The slot attribute does not get promoted. Why can't I promote an attribute after placement from the (ee) Element attribute edit window? I just tried this. I placed a symbol, hit e e, right-clicked on the inherited attribute that I wanted to

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 21:14 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: comment=Use 74_pwr.sym for supply I wrote it some months ago... A single 74_pwr.sym can not work for 14 and 16 pin parts, so I really recommend to do not use a 74_pwr.sym at all, but one

Re: gEDA-user: PCB object data and attributes

2011-01-03 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: On 01/02/2011 04:14 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: If you do not use it, why do you care about associating netnames to traces? That's not about auto DRC enforce drawing, it's about searching for parts related to schematic and cross probing

Re: gEDA-user: series of gnetlist backend patches

2011-01-03 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Dan White d...@whiteaudio.com writes: gnetlist: Option sort_port_value sorts spice-IO devs by value=. SF: 3150019 This allows using the refdes' to indicate pinlabel and then using value= to yield a meaningful ordering to a subckt's ports. My symbol generator script uses the refdes for

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-02 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: I wish we were attaching netnames to pcb trace segments as we create them and using that to do auto enforce Please don't! Guess I need to try out that Auto enforce DRC feature -- I've never purposely used it yet Same here. If you do not use it,

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: Den 2010-12-31 02:58:36 skrev Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de: kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: __ | | | |o––– |__| Ah, those box shaped symbols

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: No. That's the wrong conclusion. Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to create symbols in the first place, so I guess things will move very slowly to begin with… Maybe your time is better invested by using a small

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Philipp Klaus Krause p...@spth.de writes: Am 31.12.2010 16:31, schrieb Stephan Boettcher: Maybe your time is better invested by using a small FPGA for whatever you want to build, and learn Verilog to express the logic. Depends how much fun can have from learning such stuff. A deadline

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: Den 2010-12-31 16:31:42 skrev Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: No. That's the wrong conclusion. Well, we'll see what will happen. I am still not 100% sure how to create

Re: gEDA-user: Seeing pin numbers in PCB

2010-12-30 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Oliver King-Smith oliver...@yahoo.com writes: Thank you for the info. Both the Ctrl-M idea from Levente and you suggestion for pin labels worked well for me. A lot of features in PCB are not easily discoverable. Discoverability is a major quality factor with UI software. Info-Key

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-30 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: __ | | | |o––– |__| Ah, those box shaped symbols. Well, I don't like them. So none of them in my lib... Those were invented by bureaucrats at a time when pen plotters had

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-29 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes: A better netlister for simulation is difficult as long as the gnetlist front end has hard-coded semantics, especially for hierarchy and slotting. Last year (June 2009) LWN published a very nice series by Neil Brown about successful design pattern in the Linux

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to support manually- and auto-routing with already specified parameters for traces. Why do you need a gschem

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes: One crazy configuration was to reduce the number of bits/photon to one, and thereby achieve two orders of magnitude better time resolution than most people thought necessary while staying within data transmission restrictions. I'm told that this has been the

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: OK, shame on me for missing that option. But I do not think that this really proves that a gschem rewrite is obsolete. I may believe that writing a second gschem editor is worse use of your time than improving the existing one, but it is not up to me

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-25 Thread Stephan Boettcher
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: Stephan: Merry Christmas! Thanks, Merry Christmas to youself! ... === Make elements small layouts === An element shall be defined as a small layout, same syntax, same semantics. ... That would be great. === Introduce the concept of

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-25 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: All ideas.. I'm not coding anything on this in the foreseeable future ;) ... but, somebody must code the graphics to support new features, e.g., dehilighting all objects that are not part of the currently edited sublayout instances. :-) -- Stephan

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-25 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:27 +0100 Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote: line layer=top ends=round 132 150 132 250 /line I'd add a current netname to copper objects line layer=top ends=round netname=GND 132 150 132 250 /line

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-25 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: Hm… I start to regret that I asked the question in the first place… Please don't. -- Stephan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Christmas wishlist

2010-12-25 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com writes: The thing made post my previous message, is that it is very annoying when unconnected line stays on PCB, and there is no chance to connect anything to it. Even to the net it was formerly connected. Well, that is a question of the HIDs, i.e.,

Re: gEDA-user: Creating new symbols

2010-12-24 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: At http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial the following is written: ”When all the edits are done, it's very important when editing symbols to do a Edit→Symbol Translate to zero before saving. Do that and then save the symbol

Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

2010-12-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Armin Faltl wrote: you suggest it's good for something - what for? Mechanics. These deviant holes may be used to solder the pcb to a brass rod. Anyway, I don't know what use some rocket scientist may find for overlapping holes. PCB can do it,

Re: gEDA-user: bugs, warts and feature requests (3)

2010-12-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: From my notes: • pcb feature request: Please put all the gerbers in a dedicated subdir of the working directory by default. The name of the subdir should be configurable. Any default will seldom be what I'd need, since either the directory

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: Bert Timmerman bert.timmer...@xs4all.nl writes: I don't think it's a Good Thing (TM) that a User Manual is derived from source code files, for this would require a person with gEDA-dev priviliges to push changes into the git repository. I originally

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes: Yet another newbie question then: I tried to enter a value of a resistor (/usr/share/gEDA/sym/analog/resistor-2.sym, my operating system is Ubuntu 10.10) but the position of the value needs to be adjusted a bit. How can I do that? It

Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

2010-12-22 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk writes: On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to fill that in by using the Text tool

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

2010-12-22 Thread Stephan Boettcher
blueeag...@gmail.com writes: I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find it better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot to be desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole, but I need some custom parts. I could use KCAD I

Re: gEDA-user: 200 bugs, warts and feature requests

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de writes: Pick one item a day and present it to the mailing list for comments? Maybe not one item, but one set of related items a day? From your last couple of lines, four of six items are about gschem text. ---)kaimartin(--- PS: This is what the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Rotating components in 45 degree

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com writes: See FAQ for pcb This one? http://pcb.gpleda.org/faq.html On Dec 18, 2010, at 12:01 PM, jeffrey antony jeffrey_ant...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, Is there a functionality in PCB to rotate a component in 45 degree instead of 90 degree

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Rotating components in 45 degree

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Stephan Boettcher wrote: See FAQ for pcb This one? http://pcb.gpleda.org/faq.html No, this one: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips Although the page name says pcb tips, it really contains answers to frequently asked questions

Re: gEDA-user: Text in PCB elements

2010-12-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: Layers in the footprint have to be mapped according to the principle of least surprise. Last we talked of this, I mentioned symbolic layer tags vs physical layer tags. So footprints would have top/inner/bottom layers, boards would have

Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB

2010-12-09 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: If you want to become a PCB committer, the process starts by writing good patches, reviewing other people's patches, and being involved in design discussions. When it gets to the point where the maintainers are just checking in whatever you ask, you're in

Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc

2010-11-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de writes: But if I try to access the produced pdf file with lp -d PDF -t mosfet-node; mv $HOME/PDF/mosfet-node.pdf . the second command seems to act on the state before the print command. If there was no PDF file before, I get: mv:

Re: gEDA-user: mirrored footprint

2010-11-23 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de writes: Hi. I just hit a legitimate use case for mirrored footprints: A layout sketch for dead-bug-prototyping. That is, glue the component with its back to the board and do the wires manually. However, there seems to be no way to mirror a

Re: gEDA-user: exporting single pcb layers

2010-11-19 Thread Stephan Boettcher
chrysn chr...@fsfe.org writes: hi geda-users, in the process of cnc-milling a pcb with a custom shape using pcb2gcode [1], i created a polygon on a separate layer. in the following processing steps, i need a gerber file that contains just that polygon (without holes for the pins, becaus

Re: gEDA-user: Comments on pcb's g-code exporter HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC FOSS program for pcb milling

2010-11-15 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de writes: Exactly. A rectangle, or any number of lines drawing another area. Milled is always a rectangle, though. Hmm, why? The outline layer is especially useful for boards that are not rectangular shaped. -- Stephan

Re: gEDA-user: ANNOUNCE: New gEDA Scheme extension API

2010-11-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: copying scheme files cp: target `./gnetlist.scm' is not a directory Seems like a simple usage problem of the cp program... maybe it goes away the second time through? This looks as if a variable that defines the target directory is undefined or

Re: gEDA-user: ANNOUNCE: New gEDA Scheme extension API

2010-11-05 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk writes: Obviously, since this is an unofficial branch, please don't submit patches or bugs to the official gEDA trackers. ;-) What is the reason why this cannot be merged soon/immediately? From the description is seems to be a clean addition, that should not

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

2010-11-02 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Vanessa Ezekowitz vanessaezekow...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:46:51 -0700 Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote: I code the latter way, writing a good low level API that has a simple command line UI, then I add the GUI on top of it when it is warranted. Which is

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

2010-11-01 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: Rearranging some sets of files' locations is faster by GUI than by commands, since whole swaths of files can be moved at once after a quick selection task done visually. not, when I count the time for cleaning up after fat-fingering a mouse button

Re: gEDA-user: How to connect pads to anything?

2010-10-17 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: What I wanted to say was: Move to current Layer makes not much sense for footprints, because we can have inner layers, it does make sense, sometimes ... but we can not move footprints to that layers. ... pity -- Stephan

Re: gEDA-user: coordinate systems

2010-10-17 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de writes: - Get that thing packaged as soon as a new release is done. Only software developers install from source these days. As far as I can see, Debian and the just released Ubuntu 10.10 still distribute the Nov 2009 release. I am using Debian unstable (sid).

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

2010-10-09 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Rick Collins gnuarm.2...@arius.com writes: To be perfectly correct, anyone who needs more than 84x84 inch boards will need to recompile PCB with 64-bit units. If it is me, I have no idea how to, so I can not. But I don't plan to. If I need boards larger than 84x84 inches, I will hire one

Re: gEDA-user: pcb element with silk on the bottom?

2010-10-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: PCB elements only have silk on the top layer, sorry. But you could place the footprint on the bottom layer, if that helps. -- Stephan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

2010-09-17 Thread Stephan Boettcher
k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes: I would like the file format to be programmable, at least at the footprint level. We had that: M4 footprints. I never liked those, I could not figure out how to use them. But if you drop the parameters, and make a non-parameterized top-level file for

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

2010-09-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
I prefer: # -*- makefile -*- CSA-L%.sch: CSA-1.sch Makefile sed 's,^\(refdes\|netname\)=,L$*_,' $ $@ CSA-N%.sch: CSA-2.sch Makefile sed 's,^\(refdes\|netname\)=,N$*_,' $ $@ FSH-S%.sch: FSH-1.sch Makefile sed 's,^\(refdes\|netname\)=,S$*_,' $ $@

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

2010-09-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com writes: Now we may want to write a parser, and emitter, but that is a good amount of work, to serialize a data structure in the code that could be output be a data serializer that just works. The emitter shall conserve order and formatting (probably not)

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

2010-09-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Phil Frost ind...@bitglue.com writes: I would point out a valid YAML representation of the above is also: {pin: {pinNumber: 2, pinName: rst, x1: 1234, y1: 4321, x2: 2345, y2: 4321, layer: component}} Neither sed nor awk can process XML or YAML the right way in all cases without

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-13 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: But I figure the top/inner/bottom class is what we need for importing footprints. They'd be layered by class, not number, so they can adapt to whatever number of layers the board has. Rigid-Flex boards have pads on more than two layers. There are pads on

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-13 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: And I think the only way to do ... in a non-kludgy way Yet another example of you automatically putting down any idea that isn't yours. Please stop that. Please consider the possibility that someone might come up with a better (or even equally good) idea

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-13 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca writes: On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 03:40:24PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: With flex cable, top and bottom aren't limited to one layer each. Aren't they? No. Different areas of the cable may have extra layers or pcbs attached, changing the number of layers in

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-13 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: Now, the question becomes which is more fundamental?. I think it's geometry. A hole is the same geometry regardless of what level of the heirarchy it's placed at. So let me rephrase: Why have seven geometric holes, one for each layer, when we can have

Re: gEDA-user: PCB format wishlist

2010-09-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes: On Sep 5, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: Yes, the gschem file format is much less accessible for hand/awk/sed-editing than the pcb file format. Huh? gschem format is *trivial* to parse in awk. Use rules like: $1==L { x1 = $2 y1

Re: gEDA-user: PCB format wishlist

2010-09-05 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 09:30 -0600, John Doty wrote: All of this discussion of formats misses the shining example that's already in gEDA: the schematic format. Yes. Recently I begun studying that format and started writing a parser in Ruby -- really

Re: gEDA-user: Subnets

2010-08-18 Thread Stephan Boettcher
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Larry Doolittle wrote: All the cutting, sed-ing and pasting of the subcircuits to multiple instances, with replication of later changes on all copies is pretty unflexible. Agree 100%. +1 Cloning, referencing, or whatever we may call it,

Re: gEDA-user: Subnets

2010-08-16 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: It's not pie in the sky. Some of these ideas to use sets and lists and groups are the easiest kind to implement... Zones in layout are an easy part of what it already does, when we have more layers for intermediate calculations. net attribs plus

Re: gEDA-user: Subnets

2010-08-16 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 10:09 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote: John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes: If there is work put into partitioning a layout, can't we please have hierarchical layout instead? I have still problems to understand the goals

Re: gEDA-user: Method to create symbol for enhanced ICs with many pins

2010-08-04 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Tamas Szabo sza2k...@freemail.hu writes: I would create a schematic symbol for AT91SAM7 device: 64 pins, lots of them with multiplexed functions. 1. I can number pins round, 1 to 64 sequentially: + easily fit to the schematic, 4x16 pin + easy to create the symbol - no functional

Re: gEDA-user: Weird DRC error

2010-06-19 Thread Stephan Boettcher
my...@iae.nl writes: The minimum copper spacing is set to 10.0 mill and the distance between the two polygons is 15 mill. I usually get a lot of DRC violations on planes with multiple polygons, although the polygon spacing is comfortably more than the DRC clearance setting. Moving the

Re: gEDA-user: Diode pin numbers reversed?

2010-06-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Gabriel Paubert paub...@iram.es writes: Now the right solution to avoid having a proliferation of symnbols might be to have a way to specify attributes that map from pin name to pin numbers on every instance. There _are_ attributes available that map from pinseq to pin number. -- Stephan

Re: gEDA-user: Script for converting mm to hundredths of thou

2010-06-10 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: It works, for mm, um, in, and mil suffixes on any number: {FLOATINGMM} { return parse_number(3937.0079); } {FLOATINGUM} { return parse_number(3.9370079); } {FLOATINGIN} { return parse_number(10.0); }

Re: gEDA-user: Source file not found

2010-05-29 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Mike Bushroe mbush...@gmail.com writes: John, Thanks for the clarification. I checked and I have created a unique 'name':'number' for each net attribute, and matched input to output names. If a net is formed for each unique name:number, and all inputs and outputs with that unique name are

Re: gEDA-user: How do I mark the connection point on a pad?

2010-05-12 Thread Stephan Boettcher
timecop time...@gmail.com writes: i'm pretty sure the guy is talking about a situation when 1) new user makes a board not knowing much about the tools involved 2) default via size is set smaller than default DRC check. But isn't that perfect? When you start a new board it is mandatory to

Re: gEDA-user: complete project sample?

2010-04-11 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Luciani jluci...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: I can think of a few uses for your USB GPIO pod!-Patrick I use it mostly for testing out new components. I have added a micro-sd module for it, and most recently it's wired up to a

Re: gEDA-user: complete project sample?

2010-04-11 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Eric Brombaugh ebrombau...@cox.net writes: On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: microSD are not required to support the SPI protocol. Do they usually do? What brands? Interesting. I've tried a half-dozen different brands and haven't had any trouble with SPI support

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
gene glick carzr...@optonline.net writes: This is the board: http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/et/people/stephan/solo/eda/erena/erena.pcb Any idea if it is a good idea to just ignore these violations? Blindly ignoring violations is probably not a good idea. Better to understand them first.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de writes: Thank you very much for you review! I need to go now, when I am back later today I will tell you what the board is supposed to do. I did not dare to ask for so detailed reviews of this board, I just wanted to present a test case where

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 08:57 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: gene glick carzr...@optonline.net writes: This is the board: http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/et/people/stephan/solo/eda/erena/erena.pcb Any idea if it is a good idea to just ignore

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
timecop time...@gmail.com writes: Yep, look for example, at X2/C10 (at X=3426, Y=2381) it is so close to X2/R9 and X2/R5.  How will you avoid solder bridges there? In fact, the solder well, that particular area doesnt matter since they're actually connected together anyway but yeah i agree

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
gene glick carzr...@optonline.net writes: Stephan Boettcher wrote: Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de writes: I did not dare to ask for so detailed reviews of this board, Hi Stephan, Sorry about that - it's a habit of mine. Please keep that habit alive! Your system sounds

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
timecop time...@gmail.com writes: Yep, look for example, at X2/C10 (at X=3426, Y=2381) it is so close to X2/R9 and X2/R5.  How will you avoid solder bridges there? In fact, the solder well, that particular area doesnt matter since they're actually connected together anyway but yeah i agree

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-27 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de writes: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 08:57 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: gene glick carzr...@optonline.net writes: This is the board: http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/et/people/stephan/solo/eda/erena/erena.pcb

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Duncan Drennan duncan.dren...@gmail.com writes: Double-clicking moves the cursor to the violation. Yes, absolutely wonderful. Except, ... it centers the cursor on violating entity, and does not show the second entity that violates the clearance. I've got 14 DRC violations left mostly on the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb DRC

2010-03-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 16:00 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: This is the board: http://www.ieap.uni-kiel.de/et/people/stephan/solo/eda/erena/erena.pcb Any idea if it is a good idea to just ignore these violations? Depends on how close to your fab's

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for my first fab shop.

2010-03-16 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: Sorry, I should have checked. Their domain is genuinely German: http://basista.de ^^ BTW, the website just got a redesign. It looks much fancier than last week. Their pcb service is high quality,though. Last time I

Re: gEDA-user: Making circles in PCB

2010-02-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Vanessa Ezekowitz vanessaezekow...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:57:20 -0800 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:45 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Everything in pcb supports non-90 arcs, except for the ability to create them. Someone needs to come up with a

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv export to png

2010-02-24 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de writes: Julian thepurl...@gmail.com writes: Stephan, Yes, you can do it, however you can't use the project file for the process. Here's how: gerbv --export=png --dpi=600 --foreground=#ffff --foreground=#00ff0088 file1.gbx file2.gbx

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv export to png

2010-02-22 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Julian thepurl...@gmail.com writes: Stephan, Yes, you can do it, however you can't use the project file for the process. Here's how: gerbv --export=png --dpi=600 --foreground=#ffff --foreground=#00ff0088 file1.gbx file2.gbx ...and so on Hope this helps. Cheers--

gEDA-user: gerbv export to png

2010-02-21 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Moin, What I like to do: create an assembly drawing for my new shiny layout. How: Using gerbv to export a PNG image at 600dpi, with the front copper in translucent red, front paste in a little stronger red on top, to better see the pads, the deeper layers in very light colors below, and the

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

2010-02-09 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Dan McMahill d...@mcmahill.net writes: Before switching I was a die hard word user. Word? Wordstar! My first thesis war written with wordstar, on CP/M2.2. Then I switched to LaTeX. And how proud I was, when EMTeX run faster on my new 486DX33 notebook, than the TeX on the VAX at the

Re: gEDA-user: Translations for gEDA 1.6.1....

2010-02-07 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 13:47 +0100, Florian Teply wrote: Right, that would be the case. I just wonder: if one changed the acceleration letters between translation, say from Ne_w to Ne_u (going from english to german), would it still work? Or has the

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

2010-02-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
gene glick carzr...@optonline.net writes: Do you all use Latex for editing docs, or maybe open office or other? I'm getting fed up with the open office bugs and starting to think that Latex is a better alternative. Busy compiling Lyx as we speak. My openoffice use is strictly read-only. For

Re: gEDA-user: ExecuteFile(bob.cmd) question

2010-01-08 Thread Stephan Boettcher
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Re: gEDA-user: blue sky ideas - written down finally

2009-12-28 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net writes: On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:12 PM, gene glick wrote: A schematic represents different things to different people: The technician likes the symbols to closely resemble the physical parts. It makes working on the board easier since he doesn't need data sheets in

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-29 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Link l...@penguindevelopment.org writes: Since I'm hand-fabbing this and will probably be drawing the lines with a permanent marker, all traces should be at least 35 mil wide and have a clearance of 25 mil or greater. I've used that method before; it's a bit ugly, but it works - for very

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-22 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Bill Gatliff b...@billgatliff.com writes: Stephan Boettcher wrote: Remotely related to this topic, I had this idea: Often, there are several choices for footprint, model, whatever attribute that need to to chosen at some point in the flow. We have proposals for a kind of database

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-18 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 17:10 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: What you want is a four-slot-slotted gate symbol, and a separate power symbol. The slots permute across {gate 1, gate2} x {A-B inputs, B-A inputs}. I.e. you can use the slotting to switch gates *or*

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Arc intersection connectivity bug

2009-11-13 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: The file format and internal data formats support it, but there's no way other than editing the file to set width and height to different values. I do like that fact that the file format supports more general features. But in this case I may rather prefer

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL benchmark revisited

2009-11-10 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes: Thank you for coding! Thanks for the feedback - it is the fact that I know others are using the code which keeps me improving it beyond what I needed last time I was designing PCBs. Currently I do not do any layout work, but I'd like to try the new GL

Re: gEDA-user: Alternative subparts

2009-10-31 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net writes: Karl Hammar wrote: n...@arrl.net: Karl Hammar wrote: Is there a way to organize alternative subparts in a project, e.g. a cpu-card for one user will have one kind a bus-connector and for another user another bus-connector, but still maintanable as one

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net writes: Anyway, 80 engg+tech projects are long behind us. I've seen CPU design projects with 350+ engineers and 10's of thousands of sheets of schematics. When gEDA can scale to that, it will be a power tool. Designs of this scale are still done by schematic entry

Re: gEDA-user: Make-sure-internal-order-of-symbols-is-not-relevant-.patch

2009-08-02 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de writes: The fix would have to be applied to each and every affected back-end. May I suggest to study this LWN article for how this kind of problem can be solved in a future-proof way: http://lwn.net/Articles/336262/

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy

2009-06-30 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com writes: pick a small set of some chips you care about. lets say a large family of the AVR series. To the symbol: Add a virtual pin attribute Add the pin map file attribute. pinmap=ATmega16.fpm device=ATmega16 footprint=TQFP44_10 {

Re: gEDA-user: Breadboard drawings with pcb?

2009-05-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes: I'd prefer something more scriptable, since I expect to have _lots_ of circuits. But at a first glance, it looks like the ps/eps outputs are easy to postprocess. Try gerbv, with a .gvp file as script. This allows to order and color the layers as you

Re: gEDA-user: Two pin variable capacitor symbol with 3 pin footprint

2009-04-20 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: I have variable capacitors (trimmer) which two pins as symbol, but the footprint has three pins, pin 1 and 3 are connected internally. [...] - Make a copy of a true 3 pin footprint and rename pin 3 to 1 (this is what I did first.) - Use the 3 pin

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