Re: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:19:43 -0700 (Subject: XMLBean project creation request) Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ ~ V. Message Trailer[X] yes [ ] no ~ (a). [EMAIL PROTECTED] =(CUT HERE)== -

Re: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:58:51 +0200 (Subject: RE: XMLBean project creation request) Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:57 PM By the way, I think this url http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ is not yet

RE: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Sander Striker
From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:08 PM On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:58:51 +0200 (Subject: RE: XMLBean project creation request) Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 if it is outside of apache.org. How about PHP's case? PHP is an historical

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeans project )

2003-07-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Steven Noels wrote, On 29/07/2003 18.50: On 29/07/2003 10:41 Berin Lautenbach wrote: Steven Noels wrote: and see to bring XMLBeans where people can actually help them out. Apart from Nicola's apparent efforts in keeping the Incubator alive, most of the real action is done by infrastructure

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re:xmlbeans project )

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 7/29/03 4:41 AM, Berin Lautenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Noels wrote: But being careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water. I would have said there is real value in the Incubator defining and fleshing out a process that is used by the various PMCs for incubation. It

Re: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 7/29/03 9:57 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:19:43 -0700 (Subject: XMLBean project creation request) Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I think this url http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ is not yet taking effect. How about asking

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re:xmlbeans project )

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 7/29/03 1:01 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm the Incubator! 1-to-1 mapping! ;-P I'm afraid this is actually true, even if it is not technically the case. I take this as evidence of its failure for which it was actually doomed. I applaud your efforts though. . I

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeansproject )

2003-07-29 Thread Ted Leung
On 7/29/2003 10:33 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 7/29/03 1:01 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After spending considerable time off-list with Cliff preparing his proposal, I'm getting a bit weary with all this rules stuff ASF is incorporated. We have certain rules to

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeans project )

2003-07-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I've no issue with rules, except when we say we have rules but can't articulate them. Example #1. What should the names of the mailing lists and CVS be? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't have that rule. Nicola Ken suggested creating such a rule. My opinion is that we will

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeansproject )

2003-07-29 Thread Paul Hammant
Folks, It seems there is enough discord over XMLBeans here, to warrant letting one slide for the sake of the peace. If CVS is set-up, let it be as is. If Mail lists are set-up, let them be as they are. - - - For future projects the PMC has decided that whilst in incubator, how about the

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re:xmlbeans project )

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 7/29/03 2:11 PM, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/2003 10:33 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 7/29/03 1:01 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is an excellent idea. Why are you blaming the XMLBeans guys for your not having your act together? It's all