Greg,
Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on the files
in /www/incubator.apache.org. It is making it very difficult for others to
update the site :-)
I've 755'd all in my name. I think that is enough..
- Paul
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http://www.thoughtworks.com - The art of heavy
The only disagreement is - should all this dynamically generated stuff
go into CVS or not. It seems silly to put it into CVS - since its
trivial to regenerate the site at any point using Maven. Its worse than
saying lets check every version of a jar into CVS.
One of the reasons for putting
James Strachan asked:
Can the mailing list software automatically detect that the sender
isn't on the list and that they mention Geronimo in the mail and
send an automated reply?
You'd have to ask infrastructure. Hopefully the volume of such requests
will dwindle as people find the project's
On the naming front, IMHO the best we came up with for the same
sort of project back in the days of Olliance was Jarbanzo, but we
eventually settled on something lame like Enterprise App Server. I also
kicked around Orbital (as in, it runs circles around XxxSphere... :)
Geronimo
On Monday, Aug 11, 2003, at 21:05 Europe/Rome, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Noel J.
Bergman w
rites:
If I am working with a package, e.g., Avalon, I might not have the
javadocs
or sources local. I often find references in the javadocs via
Google, which
can be quite
Hi,
I would like to know more about Apache Geronimo and to get involved in
the project.
Thanks
Oreste Luci
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Man oh man... I really hate CVS thinking each new dir is a separate
commit.
Longing-for-SVN,
Call for a vote, or ask James. There seems to be support for trying it out.
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Hi,
As an J2EE Project engineer for 4 years, I'am also an instructor and
toFrench translator for Learning
Tree International, I'am looking forward to contributing to this very
exiting project. I've not enougth time and
skills to be involved in development but can help in the following:
- MacOS
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
No vote necessary. Thw new list is already operational.
All interested parties should subscribe to geronimo-dev@, by sending e-mail
to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] no?
and move discussion to the new list. :-)
--- Noel
James Strachan wrote, On 11/08/2003 13.50:
...
Please do not publish the site directly to the server as we use the
incubator-site CVS for better oversight. We could change this, of
course, but ATM this is the way it's meant to be.
Is there any way around this restriction? Its just so easy to
I like that one, although it does a lot like June. I guess
that's not a problem.
+1
-aaron
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 07:23 PM, tetsuo wrote:
- Jun (japanese for excellence, genius;
pure, innocent; conform to, standard)
Hi,
I'm working at Ford Motor Credit Company, currently working on J2EE Development.
I would love to help you develop in this project. Please include me in the list and
let me know what is your goal and what exactly you want to achieve for this project.
Thanks,
Janak
On Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003, at 08:46 Europe/Rome, James Strachan wrote:
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 08:54 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The only disagreement is - should all this dynamically generated
stuff
go into CVS or not. It seems silly to put it into CVS - since its
trivial to regenerate
Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote, On 10/08/2003 20.59:
...
This whole Elba thing, with LGPL code temporarily being used, seems
to be a kind of favoritism towards Geronimo not available to other Apache projects,
which must
excise all connections to LGPL (and GPL) code.
Just to put this straight, Elba is
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 09:08 pm, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
an awful lot of the 'me too' traffic on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
came from messages i moderated through. in other words,
the senders are likely *not* on the general@ list. i'd like
to suggest that a
Please join us on the Geronimo maillist, wiki new website...
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 12:56 pm, Pathuri, Venkat wrote:
Hi,
I find this really exiting news and so far was wondering why Apache
never
got into J2EE arena.
I am a Sun
More on how close Sun/ASF are:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07802.html
I think ASF and Sun voting the same way when the choice is Yes or No, is
pretty poor evidenc of a conspiracy.
What would you be saying if ASF and IBM had voted No, found a conspiracy
where IBM and ASF
Some of the supplied testcases don't compile.
There are also some that fail--but I am not looking at those yet.
--
They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
? .project
?
On the Jakarta project we are removing a sub-project. Xml.Apache has
others in hibernation and others will surely follow.
Since the incubator accepts new projects, it seems obvious for me to
propose here the opposite. That means possibly taking the responsibility
of also moving the dead
-1 hibernation...to confusing with hibernate (the persistence tool).
Other than that it doesn't matter. My personal preference is
deadprojects.apache.org...but I have this weird love of descriptive/clear
names.
On 8/14/03 4:05 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the Jakarta
We have archive.apache.org, I don't see the need to create a new vhost.
Brian
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
What about:
graveyard.apache.org
hibernation.apache.org
byebye.apache.org
devnull.apache.org
frozen.apache.org
...
Where we can keep
Noel J. Bergman wrote, On 15/08/2003 0.04:
Nicola,
On the Jakarta project we are removing a sub-project. Xml.Apache has
others in hibernation and others will surely follow.
Just out of curiousity, why did you raise this on Incubator?
As it's the opposite of incubation.
The infrastructure team
Let me know the process ...
Jaya
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On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 02:39 am, Ted Schwartz wrote:
Hello,
I'm interested in becoming a contributor to the Apache Geronimo
project and would like to learn more about it. Is there any further
information you can provide me?
We've moved to this website changed mail list...
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 06:36 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
It has been even questioned the need to publish javadocs that can be
done locally by users. More I think of it, more I agree, as doing it
for all Apache projects is an awful lot of duplication and disk space.
If I am working with a
Yes... but some people... like me want to know who is involved in what topic
to avoid work in the same topic nothing more
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003
How does anyone keep up with this flood of mail?
1. tapestry applied for entry to jakarta. there is a very
high barrier
which projects who wish to become part of jakarta have to pass. (if i
understand correctly) geronimo is a board level initiative which will
become a top level project.
susbcribe me please
Thanks and Regards
Shailesh Modi
It is not what the computer can do, It is what YOU can do with it
On 8/10/03 5:30 AM, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 03:46 AM, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
2. tapestry lacked active support from apache members.
That is NOT true.
-Andy
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Custom
Jeff Turner wrote:
incubator-site/build/site/. Forrestbot has proved very handy for
xml-site, which is now 155M and consequently takes ages to update over a
modem connection. It also saves developers from having to deal with
Forrest. As long as the docs validate (using any tool), they can be
What about a word everyone uses already (in incubator):
park.apache.org
Someone could start developing w/it again and ... unpark.
.V
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
On the Jakarta project we are removing a sub-project. Xml.Apache has
others in hibernation and others will surely follow.
Since the
Hi,
As a long time user of Apache and other Open Source Products, and senior
J2EE programmer, I would definitely love to participate :)
Mylene
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it can only be surprising. (Princeton SIP team)
Jack Frosch wrote:
How about swallowing your pride, giving up your aspirations of
controlling every popular, open-source, significant project, and just
embrace JBoss with support, MBean development, etc.?
I have spent the last two years embracing JBoss. It is a great
J2EE container and I
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
(Note: I am not a comitter, but a user)
-1
Here is why:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03376.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03376.html
teasing-flameLinks to conversation between Andrew Oliver and Jon
I think that it will be a good move to let JBoss see it. If they do
have any problems with it, we can get those out of the way now before we
have 100+ people adding to it.
To be safe, I wonder if you should also send a copy to SCO. You never
know. ;)
-Original Message-
From: Aaron
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
What is really interesting about the Geronimo name, which I like BTW, is
that
everyone remembers it. Everyone comments on it one way or another. Its a
good
name. I say we stick with it.
There are plenty of other names. JEEP, JPAE (Java Platform Apache Edition),
Hmmm...this type of reasoning always amuses me. Perhaps everyone should just
give up and join Microsoft.
Jack Frosch wrote:
Open source projects typically solve a problem not addressed by
commercial vendors, even if the problem is just the price being charged
for the commercial solution. Yet
Hello
My name is Henrikh Karpynskyi
I am Sr Software Engineer (REI Systems) with 6+ years
of expirience. Java - 4yrs, J2EE - 3 yrs
I have expirience also with RMI ,CORBA and WebServices
and would be very intrested in participating in Apache
J2EE project.
I could spend for this project at least
Hello,
Fist of all nice to see Apache getting started with a J2EE initiative.
Let me introduce myself as a 6 year java technology veteran, actively
involved into commercial consultation services and personal hobby
developments. I would like to be part of Geronimo initiative. Where do I
get further
Hello,
I'm an IT Engineer with 2 years experience in J2EE projects. I'd like to
be a contributor of this project.
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jason Dillon wrote:
The EJB container is NOT built in to JBoss... it is a set of services
which plugin to the core.
Is the EJB server part of the core of Geronimo? If not, will it
be packaged in CVS as completely external to the core and totally
interchangeable
Thanks for the tweaks, Jeff. I saw those directories get created, but I
wasn't sure whether to .cvsignore them, or to add them. Thankfully, there is
somebody who knows :-)
And same for the link the other day... I wasn't sure that Forrest recognied
mailto: or http:, so I tried using ext:. And
A J2EE container is a little different from an Avalon container. Avalon
is a generic service/component framework. The core Geronimo container
is an optimised J2EE container developed from a great deal of
experience and use of JBoss, OpenEJB mx4j. Its particularly geared
towards EJB
Hello,
I'm an IT Engineer with 2 years experience in J2EE projects. I'd like to
be a contributor of this project.
--
Luis Avila
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Axer Systems S.A.
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Fono: 56-2-235 2747
http://www.axer.cl
What do you say to write an article of Apache Geronimo? ;-)
-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 17:40:28 +0900
(Subject: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News from Incubator sub/projects in July, 2003)
Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, All (Apache Incubator General
Jochen, you wrote:
Quoting Greg Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
However, open process is at least as important as open software.
Agreed. But the ASF has just given a bad example on this (IMO).
Following the discussions on Geronimo in the last days, my
impression is that a lot of decisions
I would avoid any thing so closely related to J2EE... besides Geronimo
is/will be much more than a J2EE server ;-)
I would still like to see us use 'Bliss' or 'Juice', but it took us
long enough to get final vote on Geronimo... so I am not so sure how
likely it will be for the name name to
I wonder if someone should collect the addresses of all the interested
people coming in here with absolutely no clue and send them a
standardized mail with some instructions on how to get involved
(mailing list subscription, incubator site and so on)? They are clearly
asking for further
Hi,
I am also interested to participate in Apache J2EE initiative.
I am working with various technolgies of Java for the past 7 Years.
Do let me know how to get involved in it.
Regards,
Kalu
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From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003
Hi:
I very admire the apache group and your robust and powerful projects.
I was so exciting when heard that the Apache Geronimo project has been
launched. I want to join and contrubute myself to this project. How to do
this? Please tell me in detail.
I have worked 7 years as software
I'm in for Geronimo!
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Sean Hamblett wrote:
Isn't Geronimo something you yell when you jump out of a
plane?
As I said,
Geronimo isn't too bad, though it may be tricky to get the boss to bet
the farm on it.
Though I've never jumped out of a plane before, so I really
wouldn't
I'm willing to help integrate OpenJMS -
I'm not in a position to donate the OpenJMS
codebase, and I'm not particularly interested
in forking it.
-Tim
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From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am very interested in participating in the Geronimo project. I have
previously contributed to the JBoss sources (specifically in the areas
of deployment and XA processing), although my contributions were
relatively minor.
I would also like some way to follow (and possibly contribute to) the
Greg Stein wrote:
Hi all,
Two mailing lists have been set up for Apache Geronimo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- general discussion list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- receives CVS commit emails
These are standard EZMLM mailing lists. You can subscribe to them by sending
email to one/both of the
I'm a programmer and would like to know more about this project and how to get
involved.
Thiago
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What do you mean also politically incorrect? Is naming a project after
something you yell when you jump out of a plane politically incorrect??
As for the origin of yelling Geronimooo! when jumping from a plane,
see this:
http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/bulletin_board/2/messages/175.html
Personally, I
Hi,
I recieved an announcement about Geronimo, the open source J2EE
implementation.
I am extremely interested in participating in this effort in a technical
capacity.
Please tell me how to participate.
Thanks
Sekhar Atteri
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Geronimo has invited contributions from any source, subject to the normal
ASF CLA and approval by existing committers (the normal Apache process).
To be certified it must implement the entire J2EE specification (which
obviously includes JMS) using code that can be released by ASF. If you are
Cheers,
Thanks for the invite... I would very much like to get involved!
Fred Woolsey
Senior Consultant
LTK Engineering Services
100 West Butler Avenue
Ambler, PA 19002
Tel: 215-641-8865
Fax: 215-654-9370
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From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Its natural. He sees the future of JBoss, and its not looking good.
Once the ASF has a solid J2EE product, JBoss will not look so
attractive. Especially if Geronimo gets certified.
Bottom line, would you rather contribute to a project that is led by an
arrogant wanna be dictator or by a
Tetsuya,
From an architectural perspective, I think the logging component should
delegate i8n support to a specialized component. So it makes sense for
log4j to rely on i18n TLP project although more information on the
i18n project is needed to pursue the discussion.
Where can I find more
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:53:44 +0200
(Subject: Re: LOGGING TLP (Re: request for feedback on usage log management))
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tetsuya,
From an architectural perspective, I think the logging component should
delegate i8n support to a specialized component. So it makes
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