Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-17 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1. Sanjiva. On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 08:48 +0200, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to the Incubator for

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Irving
Alex Karasulu wrote: ... I'm fine with this option as well. Let's give it a try. Do the rest of you guys agree with this approach? ... I think moving asyncweb within a Mina TLP would be very healty for the project. One thing I would like to discuss though is identity AsyncWeb

Felix, Confluence and Graduation

2006-07-17 Thread Upayavira
Felix is using a Confluence wiki at SafeHaus. We have a dump which we would like to import into the ASF Confluence. However, SafeHaus uses 2.2, ASF 2.1.5. Would it be acceptable for Felix to consider graduation without having migrated the wiki yet, on the basis that it will as soon as the ASF has

[VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-17 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi, So far we have 8 binding votes and I was wondering what the official time period was for the voting window? Is it 72 hours as it is for everything else? Just want to move on to the next phase of the process if that is permissible at this point. Here are the votes that have been cast

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/17/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So far we have 8 binding votes and I was wondering what the official time period was for the voting window? Is it 72 hours as it is for everything else? AFAICT there is no official position or consensus on this. see this thread:

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread peter royal
On Jul 17, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Dave Irving wrote: One thing I would like to discuss though is identity AsyncWeb currently has some form of identity in its own right as a project (and is already bundled as a standalone http transport in a couple of OSS projects). Is this likely to be

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Irving
peter royal wrote: I was thinking of a similar relationship to MINA and Directory.. AsyncWeb would *not* be renamed MINA HTTP. Sounds good to me :o) Dave -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-pre-proposal--AsyncWeb-tf1931092.html#a5359859 Sent from the Apache

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-17 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 17 Jul 06, at 7:47 AM 17 Jul 06, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/17/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So far we have 8 binding votes and I was wondering what the official time period was for the voting window? Is it 72 hours as it is for everything else? AFAICT there is

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Trustin Lee
On 7/17/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 17, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Dave Irving wrote: One thing I would like to discuss though is identity AsyncWeb currently has some form of identity in its own right as a project (and is already bundled as a standalone http transport in a

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Irving
Trustin Lee wrote: One possibility though could be that MINA HTTP codec provides only encoder and decoder implementation for HTTP messages and AsyncWeb is built on top of it to provide more tighter integration with existing webapp frameworks and more HTTP-friently asynchronous APIs. Yep,

[HttpNIO] MINA and AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread peter royal
(resending since i think my first try didn't get noticed by the httpclient-dev moderators) howdy! I'm writing to see if there is interest in collaborating in a larger effort to develop HTTP code that utilizes NIO. MINA http://directory.apache.org/subprojects/mina/ is a framework here at

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Trustin Lee
On 7/17/06, Dave Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trustin Lee wrote: One possibility though could be that MINA HTTP codec provides only encoder and decoder implementation for HTTP messages and AsyncWeb is built on top of it to provide more tighter integration with existing webapp

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Irving
Trustin Lee wrote: It makes total sense. I'd love to see everything becomes real, though we need to draw a line between generalization and specialization when we generalize AsyncWeb because MINA already has its role to provide a generic network application framework. Absolutely.

[Proposal] Blaze

2006-07-17 Thread Carl Trieloff
Attached is the Blaze project proposal for incubation consideration, we welcomes your feedback. The proposal has also been posted on the wiki at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Blaze Text copy of wiki. = (Blaze Proposal) = == RATIONALE == Blaze provides multiple language implementations of

July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
As Noel enjoys belittling projects that don't have a 3 month collective memory... I'm preempting his opportunity to bash your project and sending you all a quick reminder of your status reports due this month; http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2006 If your project is listed, ensure its

Re: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey Bill, adffaces I saw the project status list yesterday and added adffaces. I didn't know that this list is only for projects that don't have a 3 month collective memory..., since we posted last month a status report. I think it is ok to add a status to that wiki, isn't it? Or only for

Re: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Ah, according to [1] the next report must be submitted in Sept. :) -Matthias [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule On 7/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Bill, adffaces I saw the project status list yesterday and added adffaces. I didn't know that

Re: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Matthias, I would think you can either move your reporting back one cycle if you like, or simply See June report. Of course, if your report was after the June reports were forwarded to the board (after the deadline) then you better dup your last month status to July. Bill Matthias Wessendorf

Re: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Bill, I already removed adffaces from that page :) We'll wait for next cycle, which is in September. Internally we track our status with the SVN based status file and *move* it to the homepage, when some *important* changes happened, so that it needs a *public* reflection. -Matthias On

RE: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: I didn't know that this list is only for projects that don't have a 3 month collective memory... I suspect that he was making a bit of a joke, along the lines of C'mon folks, how hard is it to remember to get your [EMAIL PROTECTED] report in every quarter?! we

Re: July Status Reports Due ASAP

2006-07-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: I didn't know that this list is only for projects that don't have a 3 month collective memory... I suspect that he was making a bit of a joke, along the lines of C'mon folks, how hard is it to remember to get

RE: [doc] Roles and Responsibilities Update Needed [WAS Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier?]

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy, Thanks. So let's clarify some of these issues (out of order from your reply). [The need for a Mentor to be an ASF Member was] imposed by no other agency than the Incubator PMC, itself. A need imposed by the board when it created the Incubator with a given purpose that cannot be

[DISCUSSION] Requirements for a Mentor

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
For prior discussion, see the thread [doc] Roles and Responsibilities Update Needed in our archives. Based upon various discussions we have had lately, I am putting for the following as what I consider a reasonable attempt to build a consensus: An Incubator Project SHOULD have at least

Incubator Reminders

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dave, Sending reminders to me for the Incubator PMC report isn't terribly helpful, since we report every month. But what WOULD help would be if you could generate reports for all of our projects. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule, but it is just like normal Board reports.

Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
We have several projects that appear to be dormant, so let's discuss what that means in terms of operational mechanics. I'd suggest that the PMC declare a project as dormant, with the effect being that we set the SVN ACL to read-only. If people want to wake the project up, we can change the ACL.

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have several projects that appear to be dormant, so let's discuss what that means in terms of operational mechanics. FWIW, It's merely the lack of a clue as to what needs to be changed that's kept me from closing down lucene4c. Well,

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest that the PMC declare a project as dormant, with the effect being that we set the SVN ACL to read-only. If people want to wake the project up, we can change the ACL. +1 I'm not sure what would be best for the mailing list. If

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or do we just turn them off, with a bounce notice that people interested in resurrecting the project contact us on [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's probably the easiest thing to do. -- justin

RE: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Garrett Rooney wrote: FWIW, It's merely the lack of a clue as to what needs to be changed that's kept me from closing down lucene4c. That, and Agila and a couple of others, prompted my e-mail. I'd suggest that the PMC declare a project as dormant, with the effect being that we set the

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: FWIW, It's merely the lack of a clue as to what needs to be changed that's kept me from closing down lucene4c. That, and Agila and a couple of others, prompted my e-mail. I'd suggest that the PMC declare a project

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread Matthieu Riou
The interest around the BPEL implementation in Agila has mostly moved to Ode and the workflow part isn't evolving so declaring the project as dormant sounds fair enough. As for the policy, wouldn't it be possible to do a two step thing? Like: 1. Make svn read-only and the mailing-list subscriber

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We have several projects that appear to be dormant, so let's discuss what that means in terms of operational mechanics. Usually a project requests to change their status to abandoned/dormant, but a gentle ping if we don't see two status reports over two months, or any