[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Aug 9 23:52:54 2006

APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

Re: IRC Channel?

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 18:12 -0700, Igor Vaynberg wrote: > in wicket we use irc quiete a lot. we dont post all transcripts to the list > because in general they are too noisy to be of any use to anyone. we do have > them available for browsing on the web [1] though. we also have a search > engine th

Re: Jini?

I'd like to point out that Apache does have tolerance for "brand names" coming in from the outside, in particular "J-word projects" from Sun. Java(TM) Data Objects a.k.a. JDO is an official Apache project [1]. JDO is not trademarked but the name is well-known in its space. The Apache JDO p

Re: IRC Channel?

folks have been chatting about ideas and then you see the summary on the mailing list. If you want to go see the IRC log in question you can: http://dev.rectang.com/logs/codehaus/%23cxf/20060809.html I think accountability is actually promoted by logging the channel because if people notic

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

URQPD. Craig On Aug 9, 2006, at 2:14 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: AMQPD -Brian On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. Carl Trieloff wrote: +1 for Kyma easy to say, read and use

Re: IRC Channel?

i think in general it works out well. we formulate and refine ideas on irc for a couple of hours and then post a summary to the devel list. after a few hours of real time communication the idea is usually flashed out enough to be a good base for a longer/slower-paced discussion on the list. I se

Re: IRC Channel?

Hi, On Aug 9, 2006, at 6:06 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Has anyone ever considered making IRC chats available (on some basis) as an Apache archive? Seems that Apache (myself included) doesn't like IRC so much because it is not available to those of us who because

Re: IRC Channel?

in wicket we use irc quiete a lot. we dont post all transcripts to the list because in general they are too noisy to be of any use to anyone. we do have them available for browsing on the web [1] though. we also have a search engine that indexes our mailing list, wiki, irc logs, and a few select w

Re: IRC Channel?

Craig L Russell wrote: > Has anyone ever considered making IRC chats available (on some basis) as > an Apache archive? Seems that Apache (myself included) doesn't like IRC > so much because it is not available to those of us who because of time > zone or other reasons can't attend. No - mostly bec

Re: IRC Channel?

Has anyone ever considered making IRC chats available (on some basis) as an Apache archive? Seems that Apache (myself included) doesn't like IRC so much because it is not available to those of us who because of time zone or other reasons can't attend. If it's added to an Apache archive, it

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

There is even a song about that :) Mvgr, Martin Thomas Dudziak wrote: On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. or Qupid Tom --

RE: Glasgow - new name proposal

> Pharos (lighthouse) -1 Already the name of a software (GPS) company. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)

Igor Vaynberg wrote: > pardon me for being so ignorant, but all i know of apache is what i read > online and what i have observed from this list. That is fair enough - we all start somewhere. > it seems to me that there are a few recurring concerns about these items, > even in the short period th

Re: Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)

pardon me for being so ignorant, but all i know of apache is what i read online and what i have observed from this list. it seems to me that there are a few recurring concerns about these items, even in the short period that i have been subscribed. the incubation, the releases, and the user list

Wicket again (was Re: incubation process for open development open source projects)

Igor Vaynberg wrote: > personally i am fine with "incubation takes as long as it takes" statement. > it is your organization and it is up to you whether or not you want to let > the project into the incubator and into graduation. i also understand the > "need to observe open development style on ap

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. or Qupid Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

AMQPD -Brian On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. Carl Trieloff wrote: +1 for Kyma easy to say, read and use in code. Archit Shah wrote: More name ideas for Glasgow (and maybe f

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. Carl Trieloff wrote: +1 for Kyma easy to say, read and use in code. Archit Shah wrote: More name ideas for Glasgow (and maybe for others as well): Bernoulli (messages flow) Cumin (spice) Kyma (w

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

megha (cloud) - Message ExchanGe Hyper Architecture (or some something else equally lame :) -- dims On 8/9/06, Archit Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More name ideas for Glasgow (and maybe for others as well): Bernoulli (messages flow) Cumin (spice) Kyma (wave) Leno (an open-woven fabric) Linu

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

+1 for Kyma easy to say, read and use in code. Archit Shah wrote: More name ideas for Glasgow (and maybe for others as well): Bernoulli (messages flow) Cumin (spice) Kyma (wave) Leno (an open-woven fabric) Linum (flax) Pharos (lighthouse) Subito (at once) -- Archit Shah ---

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

More name ideas for Glasgow (and maybe for others as well): Bernoulli (messages flow) Cumin (spice) Kyma (wave) Leno (an open-woven fabric) Linum (flax) Pharos (lighthouse) Subito (at once) -- Archit Shah - To unsubscribe, e-m

Re: Jini?

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > Thanks, Mark, for following up with some of the thinking. +1. > I am unclear on what the process is... can someone shed some > light? As far as the naming goes: >- how can we determine if the "Jini" name is acceptable to Apache? With Ma

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

I think we should maybe try get 3 or 4 top picks for names, and then check that these meet the incubator sniff test and then do a trademark search on those, which will most likely narrow the search to 1 out of the 4. Carl. Kim van der Riet wrote: In the acronym dept., how about: AMQE (Adv

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

In the acronym dept., how about: AMQE (Advanced Messaging, Queues and Exchanges), pronounced "am-queue". EMQE (Enterprise/Extensible Messaging, Queues and Exchanges), pronounced "em-queue". Kim On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 20:17 +0100, Joyce, Sean (Sam) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > As we appear to n

Re: Jini?

Besides the 'name question' -- are there any other questions or issues associated with the JiniProposal that we could be discussing? For reference, the submission from the incubator archives is at: I

Re: Jini?

Thanks, Mark, for following up with some of the thinking. I am unclear on what the process is... can someone shed some light? As far as the naming goes: - how can we determine if the "Jini" name is acceptable to Apache? - whether contributing the TM would be welcomed? - whether use of "Jin

Re: [vote] Accept Glasgow (revised vote)

Carl Trieloff wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Last and final objection, I want to make sure I am not missing >> something... >> the contract between the spec participants is or is not public? If >> public, >> was there a link I missed? If so, can it be added to the proposal for >> complet

Re: [rant] seperate policy change from proposal discussion

On 08/08/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The latest example is all the debate surrounding whether or not the "glasgow" name is appropriate. Up until about a week or two ago, it certainly was accepted practice (just look around), and now 'suddenly' there's messiness. Its ok if opinions

Re: Can't access Glasgow/AMQP subversion

Read Only access to the source code can be done with userid - etpguest password - guest Wiki is also updated with this change, to fix Paul's access issue. Carl. Carl Trieloff wrote: I thought I had fixed this, will get guest reset shortly Carl. Paul Fremantle wrote: Hi Glasgow Proposers

Re: Axis2 inclusion of Woden incubator podling

I guess the question is - What if any disclaimers/notices/readme stuff has to be in Axis2 distribution to warn users about jars from projects under incubation. thanks, dims On 8/9/06, Guillaume Nodet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeremy Hughes wrote: > Hi, > Axis2 are starting to get ready for

Re: Axis2 inclusion of Woden incubator podling

Jeremy Hughes wrote: Hi, Axis2 are starting to get ready for a 1.1 release. Since 1.0, it has a new dependency on the Woden incubator podling. This is a similar issue to Geronimo including ActiveMQ back in March [1]. Except, unlike ActiveMQ, Woden was never a project existing outside the ASF.

Re: Can't access Glasgow/AMQP subversion

I thought I had fixed this, will get guest reset shortly Carl. Paul Fremantle wrote: Hi Glasgow Proposers I tried to check out the AMQP code from the Redhat website: svn checkout https://etp.108.redhat.com/svn/etp/trunk/blaze/ --username guest with the empty password for guest as described

Can't access Glasgow/AMQP subversion

Hi Glasgow Proposers I tried to check out the AMQP code from the Redhat website: svn checkout https://etp.108.redhat.com/svn/etp/trunk/blaze/ --username guest with the empty password for guest as described on https://etp.108.redhat.com/servlets/ProjectSource#cmdlinesvn And it didn't work. I can

Axis2 inclusion of Woden incubator podling

Hi, Axis2 are starting to get ready for a 1.1 release. Since 1.0, it has a new dependency on the Woden incubator podling. This is a similar issue to Geronimo including ActiveMQ back in March [1]. Except, unlike ActiveMQ, Woden was never a project existing outside the ASF. Does anyone know of any