Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes st...@apache.org wrote: ...Is the wider Groovy community aware that transitioning to Apache is not done overnight? There is no guarantee this will be complete by mid-April, which to me sounds optimistic... The full transition might take some

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Cédric Champeau
Yes the biggest problem is going to be the migration of JIRA. Codehaus only wants to provide a CSV export which is far from being enough for us. I hope someone at Apache has experience on this and will be able to get in touch with Codehaus to provide a better migration path. 2015-03-13 18:33

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 13.03.2015 17:49, schrieb Stian Soiland-Reyes: [...] Is the wider Groovy community aware that transitioning to Apache is not done overnight? There is no guarantee this will be complete by mid-April, which to me sounds optimistic. well, once we are accepted we will communicate that. There is

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Stephen Connolly
(Disclosure Ben works for my employers, so I have slightly more ability to bend his ear. As a result I got him to agree to do two full exports from JIRA, one to let us test the process and a second when we are ready to migrate) On 13 March 2015 at 21:37, Stephen Connolly

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2015-03-13 18:36 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com: Yes the biggest problem is going to be the migration of JIRA. Codehaus only wants to provide a CSV export which is far from being enough for us. I hope someone at Apache has experience on this and will be able to get in

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Benedikt Ritter brit...@apache.org wrote: ...it would be strange to release Groovy 2.4.2 as Groovy 2.4.2-incubating. Do we need to talk about this?.. that can be discussed once the podling is established. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Stephen Connolly
We @ Maven will have a full dump of the Codehaus JIRA and we have a VM set up to test migration... On 13 March 2015 at 17:36, Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote: Yes the biggest problem is going to be the migration of JIRA. Codehaus only wants to provide a CSV export which is far

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 13/03/15 12:13, Jim Jagielski a écrit : community. Forgive me presuming to say this but this seems a contradiction with The Apache Way as written about. Also it is very CVCS/Subversion focussed. In a DVCS world, committers are just the gatekeepers of the central mainline, the judges/jury

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2015-03-13 14:09 GMT+01:00 Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org: Am 13.03.2015 13:28, schrieb Benson Margulies: [...] This has nothing to do with the start of incubation in my view. +1 I really think this point has been made clear by every one. Is really the only discussion point about

[OFF-LIST] RE: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Nice. Great anticipation and risk management. Great to see made visible. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail -Original

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-13 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Thanks for that nice detailed explanation. Perhaps it should be aded to here? [1] or [2] While I thought it common knowledge it doesn't seem to be explicitly written down anywhere in a clear way like that. Thanks

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 13.03.2015 22:38, schrieb Stephen Connolly: (Disclosure Ben works for my employers, so I have slightly more ability to bend his ear. As a result I got him to agree to do two full exports from JIRA, one to let us test the process and a second when we are ready to migrate) ah ok, that

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 13.03.2015 22:37, schrieb Stephen Connolly: We @ Maven will have a full dump of the Codehaus JIRA and we have a VM set up to test migration... you mean more than a JSON export lacking comments and attachements? bye Jochen -- Jochen blackdrag Theodorou - Groovy Project Tech Lead blog:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Thanks for that nice detailed explanation. Perhaps it should be aded to here? [1] or [2] While I thought it common knowledge it doesn't seem to be explicitly written down anywhere in a clear way like that. Justin 1. http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#license 2.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.0.2-incubating

2015-03-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 binding I checked: - signatures and hashes correct - DISCLAIMER exists - NOTICE and LICENSE correct (minor issue see below) Nice effort with the LICENSE file btw, it quite complex and everything check outs. - No unexpected binary files - Can compile from source Minor/trivial issues: -

RE: Wave community may need our help

2015-03-13 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Don't worry Christian. Same thing for me last month, and someone else the month before. Signing the report is not a replacement for actually being involved. Sounds like you are doing a great job. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Christian

Re: Wave community may need our help

2015-03-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Roman, you might have noticed, that one of the mentors (me) were actively asking for this report. I simply forgot to sign it, which does not happen often to me. In example, the last report was signed (Dec). More mentors are always welcome; but its not this podling is out on his own. From

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Russel Winder
I have been reading this thread via GMane with some worry. I have now joined the email list and this post is fortuitous in that it allows me to make some of the points I wish to contribute. On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 08:55 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Cédric

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote: ...I see no point in wanting to reach a target number of committers. Having a large number of quality contributions, more contributors is IMHO more important than people having write access to the repo Once

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 12/03/15 18:59, Marvin Humphrey a écrit : On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal I've read through the proposal (rev 17). It looks

Re: Wave community may need our help

2015-03-13 Thread Upayavira
Apologies for missing the report. My impression also is that Wave will not, ever, make graduation, and should seek an alternative home. There’s still some benefit to the project in being associated with Apache, but I don’t see how it will ever reach a stronger position. From the discussions

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 13 March 2015 at 10:50, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: I have been reading this thread via GMane with some worry. I have now joined the email list and this post is fortuitous in that it allows me to make some of the points I wish to contribute. On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 08:55

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Pid
On 12/03/2015 15:27, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...Easy: we reach out to all the folks who may have a legitimate claim to have contributed to the project in substantial ways and ivite extend an offer to them

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Benson Margulies
JimJag, for years, has written about the cultural implications of DVCS, and the email here supports what he's written. So I think we need to pay close attention. I think that we care about both PMC and committer inventory. I, for one, would not want to see an Apache project that restricted commit

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 13.03.2015 13:28, schrieb Benson Margulies: [...] This has nothing to do with the start of incubation in my view. +1 I really think this point has been made clear by every one. Is really the only discussion point about something that is supposed to happen once we are incubation?

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Russel, On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote: ...I think the language of sustainability and committer status has to change in this discussion... I do agree very much with the overall idea that you're expressing, and I think it matches the spirit of

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
community. Forgive me presuming to say this but this seems a contradiction with The Apache Way as written about. Also it is very CVCS/Subversion focussed. In a DVCS world, committers are just the gatekeepers of the central mainline, the judges/jury as to what meets the quality criteria.

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: I really think this point has been made clear by every one. Is really the only discussion point about something that is supposed to happen once we are incubation? Shouldn't we focus more on the things that get prevent

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 13, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:09 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: I really think this point has been made clear by every one. Is really the only discussion point about something that is supposed to happen

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.0.2-incubating

2015-03-13 Thread Sergio Fernández
+1 (binding) I guess I saw the thread too late at dev@nifi.a.o, so I directly vote here. So far I've checked: signatures and digests, source releases file layouts, matched git tags and commit ids, incubator suffix and disclaimer, NOTICE and LICENSE files, build sources in a clean environment

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: ...Shouldn't we focus more on the things that get prevent the project from entering incubation?... Indeed - the discussions about committers/PMC are useful to the Incubator at large but not directly related to accepting

[VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.0.2-incubating

2015-03-13 Thread Joe Witt
Hello The Apache NiFi PPMC has voted to release Apache NiFi 0.0.2-incubating. The vote was based on the release candidate described below. We now request the IPMC to vote on the release. Here is the PPMC voting result: 6 +1 (binding) 0 = 0 (binding) Two of the +1 votes were from IPMC members.

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-13 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
First of all, this is a great proposal and as a occasional Groovy coder, Groovy would be a very valuable addition to the Apache family. My only concern is with the timing of the below: Groovy 2.4 will be the last major release under Pivotal Software's sponsorship, which is scheduled to end on