Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-28 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:59 PM Justin Mclean wrote: >... > > It appears there is general consensus that "right to distribute closed > source" would be the main and potentially only blocker for podlings. > > That is not the case (re this is a blocker) I suggest you read that legal > thread

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Recall that with other PMCs, the PMCs themselves are directly responsible for > the development of the code. Not so with the IPMC. Where is this documented? Where has the board granted this? It’s not in the IPMC's policy or in it charter. IMO Until that happens it always going to be a

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > An "exception" would be a potentially permanent allowance of non-compliance. Exceptions when given have been temporary and not permanent. > It appears there is general consensus that "right to distribute closed > source" would be the main and potentially only blocker for podlings.

[VOTE] Release Apache Flagon (Incubating) v2.0.0

2019-06-28 Thread Joshua Poore
Hi Folks, Please VOTE on the Apache Flagon 2.0.0 Release Candidate # 2. About Flagon: http://flagon.incubator.apache.org/ We require +2 binding votes from PMC to proceed with the release. Our community and mentors have voted on this release with the

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/27/19, 10:57 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: But VP legal said as much the other day. "we can NOT allow any relaxation of the ASF release policy for a TLP.” I interpret that to mean that a TLP must eventually get around to fixing non-compliance. A TLP cannot stop attempting to

Re: LGPL dependency

2019-06-28 Thread Myrle Krantz
I've said it on dev@weex, and on private@incubator, but I wanted to make sure and say it here too. Weex should cut the release. We'll figure out the rest later. The straw poll on private@incubator also confirms: you have my support and the support of many of the mentors in the incubator. I

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> The Incubator itself is a PMC. > > OK that's sorted. > >> Now let's talk about podling releases... When the IPMC votes on accepting a >> podling release, and it passes, my opinion is that the Incubator takes on >> the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 > On Jun 27, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > I’m not quite sure what to do. If I don’t hear by tomorrow I’ll close this > vote as passing. > >> On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:34 AM Justin Mclean >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
This speech policing is starting to get quite on my nerves. Especially when it ignores the intent behind such things... 99% of the time the smiley is there to say "Yeah, I know that sounds harsh, but it's a little joke". It is an attempt to replicate in text what is natural in "real life"...