Re: [VOTE] Accept CouchDB for incubation

2008-02-10 Thread Leo Simons
: * a REST API using JSON for data transport, * a JavaScript view engine based on Mozilla Spidermonkey, * a GNU Autotools build system supporting most POSIX systems * a built-in administration interface * experimental fulltext search with Lucene snip/ cheers! Leo Simons

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:20 AM, David Reiss wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: git could be an issue. Can you explain what the issue is with Git? Probably not very well :-). Basically, we know how to do the apache- style open source process using centralized version control, we don't quite know how

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet - Pluto

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Endre Stølsvik wrote: this isn't exactly some court Exactly. Now, if I look through http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=pluto#query:pluto+page:1 +state:facets pluto does not seem a problematic code dump project, and it also definitely isn't a single

Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet : Link Error - please use this link

2008-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard questions! Nah, it's mostly because the mail threading on this thingie was broken a few times. It makes things hard to follow. Simon -- please use that reply-to button in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: Mark Slee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone have feedback? If no objections are voiced, when would it be appropriate for us to move forward with a VOTE thread on this? Sorry for not responding. I flagged the email when I first saw it but didn't

Re: Release Oversight

2007-12-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 29, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: i'm a little worried about oversight of dist/incubator. incubator is a big group and there are lots of podlings. Yeah, I share the concern. I think we have 25 incubating projects at the moment. We *have* to fundamentally change how

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:50 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. That'd be a different rule; it's a tiny bit less

Re: [VOTE] Approve release Apache UIMA 2.2.1-incubating

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 10:37 AM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...So it is a new requirement and I don't think we should be making up policy during a release vote +1, that's even part of the policy! It is just *so* annoying that this

freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 16, 2007, at 5:24 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Marshall Schor wrote: We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... While that's a good (and standard) practice, it's not quite a requirement. There can be good

Re: [PROPOSAL] Shindig, an OpenSocial Container

2007-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
yay! Looks good. On Nov 9, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: The initial core developers are all Ning employees. We hope to expand this very quickly. Given how new this area is, and how much buzz OpenSocial seems to be gathering atm, you can probably count on quite a bit of

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

2007-10-22 Thread Leo Simons
have always lived as open source projects. Plexus has 17 Apache committers, Pico has 4 so most of the participants are already familiar with projects here. [ ] +1 Accept Composer project for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : cheers, Leo Simons -- http

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 12, 2007, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sebor wrote: After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we are ready to propose to the Incubator PMC to

how to close down / put into dormant mode an incubator project / podling

2007-10-10 Thread Leo Simons
lists -- examples INFRA-1377, INFRA-1378, INFRA-1379, INFRA-1380 cheers, Leo Simons -- http://www.leosimons.com/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TripleSoup going into dormant mode

2007-10-07 Thread Leo Simons
that starts at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-triplesoup-dev/ 200709.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] What else do we have to do now? It seems we don't have a guide for how to go dormant. Does someone have or can produce a checklist of how we've done this before? cheers, Leo Simons

Re: Incubator Proposal: Pig

2007-09-20 Thread Leo Simons
consider forming a podling according to the proposal. ... Pig is a platform for analyzing large data sets. +1, looks cool! ...seems like your biggest challenge here is attracting a diverse developer community, and hopefully the apache incubation process will help you there... cheers, Leo

Re: September 2007 Incubator Board Report

2007-09-17 Thread Leo Simons
a vote about just that (on the private mailing list) at the moment. cheers, Leo Simons -- http://www.leosimons.com/blog/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vote] Accept JRS project for incubation

2007-06-30 Thread Leo Simons
connection to those remote services. JRS is currently a community source, internal project at American Express. This proposal is to develop the JRS code and community at the ASF. ... cheers, Leo Simons -- http://www.leosimons.com/blog

Re: STDCXX progress to graduation

2007-06-25 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 25, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Martin Sebor wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I just finished a sweep through our sources and updated those that still needed it. The record of the changes is here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STDCXX-457 So, does this mean that there's files in any of the tarballs

Re: STDCXX progress to graduation

2007-06-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Martin Sebor wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I also believe/hope the status file might need an update or perhaps two: In progress Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been updated to reflect the new ASF copyright. I'd hope

Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 24, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: This is a proposal to develop a Java-based interface response capture/playback tool. Interesting proposal. Seems useful. Documentation - Documentation is available on request. See below. Initial source -

Re: Apache Wicket has graduated!

2007-06-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 20, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: We just received confirmation that the Board has established Apache Wicket as a project. I would like to thank the Incubator PMC and all the others that have supported Wicket during the incubation for their guidance, effort and time. THANK

Re: STDCXX progress to graduation

2007-06-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I think the community, as-is, can manage itself for now. ... I believe stdcxx is a nice, small, healthy little community doing what the committers are interested in - producing a world-class STL implementation under the ALv2 with our

Re: [Graduation Apparel] Words

2007-06-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 18, 2007, at 6:37 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: opinions? improvements? alternatives? Somehow I missed this t-shirt/apparel effort so far. I think all of them are acceptable, I liked both of the logos I saw, and its just in general really really really cool we're doing this! Go

Re: Incubator reports due

2007-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 18, 2007, at 7:13 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: This is due to board@ with PMC oversight/feedback 12 hours from now. Oversight implies at least three reviewers of each report. According to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule and already recorded in

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed May 30 23:55:31 2007

2007-06-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 4, 2007, at 3:05 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I've deleted the file from SVN. Please remove the crontab that sends these emails. You don't feel that it had any value if updated? When it comes to status, I believe unknown is better than outdated which is better than

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed May 30 23:55:31 2007

2007-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
I've deleted the file from SVN. Please remove the crontab that sends these emails. Thanks! - Leo On May 31, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*- indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun,

Re: [site] Introduce a 'Building a community guide'?

2007-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 2, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: I'm working on the graduation guide, and noticed quite some text regarding community building. I think this contains enough material and is important enough to warrant a separate guide. Basically I want the next text [1] migrated from the

Re: [VOTE] Retire Heraldry from incubation

2007-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:15 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote: This is a vote to move the Heraldry project from active incubation to 'retired' status. +1 I want to thank all the committers and mentors +1 (and other contributors, too) - Leo

Re: PPMC guidance on new committers

2007-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
Thanks Craig. Some suggestions/comments: On May 31, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Voting in a new committer If a developer has contributed a significant number of high-quality patches, is interested in continuing the contribution, and has demonstrated the ability to work well

Re: Sending proposal to board: how to?

2007-05-28 Thread Leo Simons
On May 28, 2007, at 12:54 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: The graduation guide is a bit vague and incomplete on one point: sending the resolution to the board. It is mentioned in the process description to send a message to the board (to board@), but there are of course no example messages to be

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Wicket from the incubator

2007-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 24, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: The Wicket podling respectfully requests the Incubator to consider its graduation to a Top Level Project. Please vote on recommending the attached draft board resolution. +1. - Leo

Re: Todo or not todo: cc'ing podling-private@ when sending message to private@

2007-05-21 Thread Leo Simons
On May 21, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: On May 20, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: In more general terms: is it considered good practise to CC both parties with 'official' communication between the private@ and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Generally, I'd say that it might be

email is great for offline-ness (was: Re: [VOTE] Change Mentor to Mentors in Incubator Policy)

2007-05-21 Thread Leo Simons
On May 21, 2007, at 8:26 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Just an FYI - I haven't followed the jira flow terribly well, mostly because it takes an order of magnitude longer in time to parse a Jira incident rather than approve a patch posted to the list. If you could at least attach the

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-15 Thread Leo Simons
On May 15, 2007, at 12:26 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Quick question (I hope). I was thinking about what will happen if the NMaven podling would like to add a committer, make a release, etc. Would votes by Maven PMC members (As the sponsoring project) be considered binding in this case, or should

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-07 Thread Leo Simons
On May 6, 2007, at 1:57 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones I don't understand the

Re: [discuss] graduation: what is the 'hand over'?

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
On May 3, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: I am in the process of going through the graduation guide (graduation.xml in the guides directory of the incubator website), wow, that's pretty detailed. It's also not linked from the main menu. and I came across a TODO: section and didn't

[suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
Jo! The whole jira-patch-commit workflow for the documentation seems annoying. At least it annoys me -- in particular the patches don't show up in my email so I have to visit jira which I try and avoid as much as possible :-). Suggestions: 1) create

Re: [suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
On May 5, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Michael Wechner wrote: what about a CMS with a workflow, which would sit on top SVN accessing both branches (staging resp. draft and live) and hence would allow devs still accessing it through other SVN clients and also allow updating the live site as static SVN

Re: [VOTE] approve release of CXF 2.0-incubator-RC

2007-05-01 Thread Leo Simons
+1 looks good to me. Grats! - Leo Two minor things (not big enough to hold up the release I think): NOTICE file says This product includes software developed at Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). which should be This product includes software developed at

all licenses go into the LICENSE file (was: Re: [VOTE] approve release of OpenJPA 0.9.7)

2007-04-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007 11:55, Patrick Linskey wrote: * OpenJPA includes software developed by the SERP project Copyright (c) 2002-2006, A. Abram White. All rights reserved. The All rights reserved. means that it has not been properly

Re: Missing reports

2007-04-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 15, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: ... PS. The TripleSoup and UIMA reports are missing the incubating since information. I have added this information for UIMA. I added for TripleSoup and provided the specific date for UIMA. /LSD

Re: Mentors and members

2007-04-12 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: I'm confused. I can imagine. I think everyone is confused. That's what you get when you try and write these process descriptions so formally, since the actual process is not as formal. The A mentor is... a permanent member of the [ASF]

Re: discussion of release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-12 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 4, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On 4/4/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there have been changes since the release was cut, a new release must IMHO be created, so that people can vote (on the wicket lists first, and then come back here) on the correct one.

please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Leo Simons
Oi! On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Ted Leung wrote: So I'm bringing this back to the Incubator PMC for discussion and ultimately, a vote. I would really appreciate it if we could all try to keep [VOTE] tags in subject lines restricted to things that actually need a vote (e.g. yes/no/+1/-1)

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:23 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: Two parts to the vote: ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). [ ] +1 [ ] -1 [X] think decision should be made together with infrastructure team TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. [ ] +1

Re: March Board reports due

2007-03-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Mar 14, 2007, at 2:22 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This month's ASF Board reports should be written up on the wiki at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2007 River and Woden are not nearly detailed enough. We need status, issues required for

Re: ip clearance process (was Re: Tuscany is still a podling ...)

2007-03-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: ... I vetoed the codedump for two main reasons. The first is that the IP clearance process is not being followed: there is no record of the code here http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html and there

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: One thing that seems to have been forgotten is that an approved release must be in the form of SOURCE CODE and must be placed in the associated PMC's public distribution area under http://www.apache.org/dist/ The second must there in that

Modifications to incubator SVN checkout

2007-02-18 Thread Leo Simons
Can whomever edited /www/incubator.apache.org live without changing the SVN contents please fix that up? Thanks! - Leo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] svn diff projects/synapse.html Index: projects/synapse.html === --- projects/synapse.html

Re: REMINDER: BOARD REPORTS

2007-02-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: And because naming and shaming works: ... XAP ... Only projects that are current on their board reports should be allowed to release. Now that's a big stick! :-) - Leo

Re: [VOTE] Terminate log4php

2007-02-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 14, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Curt Arnold wrote: There is no reasonable expectation of log4php satisfying the exit criteria. snip/ Here is my +1 +1. Thanks Curt! Sorting this out is never fun... - Leo - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] log4net graduation

2007-02-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Curt Arnold wrote: The log4net-dev community appears healthy and I believes warrants graduation from the incubator and has my +1 as mentor and incubator PMC member. +1 - Leo - To

Re: [vote] mod_wombat ip clearance

2007-02-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 15, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 1:43 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: for IP clearance, i don't see how the IPMC is able to do anything other than just check the documentation: a pure paper exercise. we have no choice to trust that the PMC has read,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Uniform Project Procedures

2007-02-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Curt, On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Curt Arnold wrote: The recent discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bylaw paragraph in TLP resolution, 2007-02-07), the comments in the Graduate OFBiz Podling thread (http://www.mail-archive.com/ general@incubator.apache.org/msg11758.html) and log4net

Re: [Vote] Graduate mod_ftp (to an httpd subproject)

2007-02-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:45 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Votes to graduate mod_ftp from the incubator? +1 from me. Go, go, go! - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

[VOTE] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
with that database, and a REST [4] web interface to talk to that database using SPARQL [5], implemented as an apache webserver module. {{{ Target:TLP Sponsor: Incubator PMC Champion: Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mentors: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Hyde [EMAIL

Re: Change to Board reporting process

2007-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I wonder if anyone other than me is reading everything before or even after it is submitted. I tend to read all board reports, and read the ones for which I'm on a PMC, or previously was a (formal or not) mentor for, completely. I

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:52 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would avoid creating a -user list until it's actually proven necessary. In the beginning keeping user questions on the dev list makes sense to me. Me too. One less mailing list to deal with is

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: If there's significant XML processing involved there'll have to be some eventually! Can't do RDF without RDF/ XML...and can't do SPARQL without sparql result sets... For now I guess we sort-of plan on just using redland whenever we do

Re: Board response to January Report on Heraldry

2007-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Ted, Bottom line: there's some issues with the heraldry community to fix, it's their responsibility to fix it, looks like you guys did a good job of that so far to me, we should give heraldry some more time to try and fix things. On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Ted Leung wrote: Paul and

[proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-29 Thread Leo Simons
with that database, and a REST [4] web interface to talk to that database using SPARQL [5], implemented as an apache webserver module. {{{ Target:TLP Sponsor: Incubator PMC Champion: Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mentors: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Hyde [EMAIL

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-29 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 29, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Will it do anything with either Derby, ApacheDS or JackRabbit, in terms of potential collaboration? Sounds like it's all C Yep, that's the plan for now at least. In java land, there's two sizeable platforms for doing

Re: PPMC docs query

2007-01-28 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 26, 2007, at 2:26 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 1/25/07, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only votes cast by (P)PMC members are binding. If the vote is positive, the contributor formally becomes an Apache committer. So to confirm I have this right... A PPMC can vote

Re: Write-up on release signing/verification

2007-01-25 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 25, 2007, at 8:07 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 1/25/07, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what do you propose? please go ahead and create a patch :-) yay! We always need more (capable!) people to maintain these docs :) The apache website is maintained in xdoc form using

Re: Making a non ASF project, ASF friendly

2007-01-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Chris Howe wrote: The purpose of the other project is to be a sort of impromptu venue for collaboration of things related to the ASF project. The ASF project in question (The Apache Open for Business Project - OFBiz), has a history of being relatively stable in SVN.

Re: Making a non ASF project, ASF friendly

2007-01-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 6, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Chris Howe wrote: I am currently in the process of setting up a project that will hopefully complement the Apache Open for Business Project and help get some community newbies down the learning curve a bit faster than is currently possible with the tools available

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Cayenne to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-12-01 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 1, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: I am asking for a vote of the Incubator PMC on graduation of Cayenne that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that purpose. Please cast your votes. +1. Good luck! - Leo

[policy] where incubation notices should live (was: Re: [VOTE] Apache CXF 2.0-M1 Incubating Release)

2006-12-01 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Martin Ritchie wrote: On 01/12/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: What Jim pointed out was docs/release_notes.txt -- it should probably include the

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-22 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 21, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote: However, I *would* like clear guidance about what to do. Do what makes most sense for your developers and your users. It sounds like you know what that is. Is this going to cause problems with incubator approval of the 0.9.6 vote that's

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:12 AM, David E Jones wrote: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate OFBiz Podling [ ] +0 Abstain [ ] -1 Do not Graduate OFBiz Podling I think this time I'll ignore all procedural thingies and just enthousiastically vote +1 great work, peeps! Do let me know if I

Re: wikis

2006-11-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 9, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Allow me to make this clear. snip/ Lol. Wow, that's a lot of opinions in one paragraph. Heh. Well, this was where the problem was then: we thought confluence was going to be supported, but was kind of in the beta phase. Anyone use gmail?

automate everything! (was: Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process)

2006-11-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 11, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: (On a side note: To be perfectly frank, it makes me cringe to see this horribly effort-intensive and error-prone process being used by the ASF. IMHO, all this stuff should be regularised and normalised and maintained via Web forms. If

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-26 Thread Leo Simons
(in order of votes cast) : snip/ +1 Leo Simons(Incubator PMC/mentor) snip/ Please send in your +1/0/-1 to approve/abstain/disapprove. +1. LSD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

How to read and write e-mail @ apache (was: Re: [VOTE] graduate harmony podling)

2006-10-23 Thread Leo Simons
Change the subject line when you change the subject...done. Don't top post...failed! Keep it short...failed! Oh well...as for the rest...going by example... The preface --- On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:39 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Oct 21, 2006, at 3:24 AM, Leo Simons wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Xavier Hanin wrote: After several weeks of discussion with our user community [1] and with several Apache members, I am proud to present a proposal [2] for the open source project Ivy to join the Apache Incubator. Cool. Ivy is cool. Actually, it's not *that*

[VOTE] graduate harmony podling

2006-10-21 Thread Leo Simons
This is *not* an actual vote. The vote is on harmony-dev; see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/ 200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail is only for archival purposes (Geir's first note about this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is part of a long thread). cheers, Leo

Harmony doing a release now would be busy work with no utilty (was: Re: Checkpoint on Harmony (Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation))

2006-10-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 20, 2006, at 1:24 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On 10/19/06, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 19, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: ... I'd like to ask that those who have asked for a release to assuage concerns about community health and capability to please read

Re: OFBiz: we need help to complete the NOTICE and LICENSE files

2006-10-20 Thread Leo Simons
IANAL. I believe we still don't have definitive templates for these files :( On Oct 20, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ofbiz/trunk/LICENSE I think this looks good. and NOTICE

Re: Harmony doing a release now would be busy work with no utilty

2006-10-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 20, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Greg Stein wrote: snip/ Look. You guys are freakin' nuts. snip/ sarcasm Assuming this refers to me, given the choice, I think I like the qualification silly better. /sarcasm Sheesh. Get over it already. snip/ +1, and you too! Let's all go do some actually

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: I don't have a binding vote, but my thought is Harmony has the same issue as Felix: namely they haven't done a release or provided even a test release to the IPMC so the IPMC can be sure the podling knows the proper way to do a release and

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: A snapshot doesn't require any thought. I'd be happy with a vote on a release plan, myself, or even just a trial run. Something to indicate that folks understand what it is that a PMC is supposed to do in real life (i.e., make releases while

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 18, 2006, at 8:04 PM, Mads Toftum wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:10:37PM +0200, Mads Toftum wrote: On the surface everything appears fine to the point of graduating minus the proving that you can do a release. But given past experiences with graduating large projects too fast,

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Don Brown wrote: Agreed. I don't think it is fair to be making up graduation requirements right when a project is about to graduate. The graduation requirement is that a majority of the PMC members agree that

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 18, 2006, at 10:42 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 18, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play with your project. Is there a specific

Re: New Name for UIMA Podling?

2006-10-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 16, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Adam Lally wrote: We've been trying to think up a more fun, non-acronym name for UIMA that fits in better with the spirit of the ASF. Note UIMA is a fine name for an apache project. We have projects like APR and BSF and the like, too. But +1 on fun :) 1)

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: I have never liked this explicit champion role, and I don't like adding responsibilities to it, making things even more explicitly

Re: Release Requirements

2006-10-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 12, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can we agree that regardless of which style one might prefer the packaging, there are multiple valid approaches, and that this level of difference should not be a release criteria for the Incubator? ASF release processes work because people

Re: Question about mixed source documentation

2006-10-10 Thread Leo Simons
Hi Eric, From the ASF point of view, it is your responsibility to ensure you can contribute the thing you're contributing (under CLA and/or CCLA). From your employer's point of view, this is probably a good question to ask your lawyer / legal people. Basically you need to make sure there

Re: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Martijn, do keep sending these e-mails. Less replies doesn't mean that its less valuable. On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:38 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Just to pose an outsider view, being new to the ASF and not to hijack the discussion on the CFX/CeltiXFire, I would like to share my views on the

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Mark Little wrote: On 5 Oct 2006, at 14:54, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Mark Little wrote: On 4 Oct 2006, at 23:20, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: You will, of course, infer and interpret events as you choose. It's pretty obvious to me, a complete outsider, that

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Leo Simons wrote: 2) The mentors for CXF (well, until recently) have accumulated loads of merit. Enough to be allowed to be mentors, and then some. The guy you're disagreeing with has accumulated so much merit he has difficulty passing through airport security

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-10-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 27, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: issues addressed in this release: 1. updated proposal included 2. The first paragraph explains it to a layperson 3. OASIS issue addressed Thanks Ian. +1, Leo [ ] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Mark Little wrote: Redhat were one of the supporters of the Celtixfire incubator project and discussed with the proposers to add Kevin Conner and myself to the list of initial commiters. As part of this, our names were included in the proposal. Both Kevin and I

Re: [VOTE] Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hmpf. On Oct 1, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Taken from the Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire thread: - The Incubator PMC sets the Mentors, who form the initial PPMC - The PPMC (Mentors) elects additional PPMC members - The PPMC elects Committers I would say this is

Re: Rat tool, Apache header and different file types

2006-09-28 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: My question is, should all these [source] files get the ASL headers? All source files should have appropriate headers. If its apache-owned, ASL-licensed source, it should have the ASL header. This would be a hard hit for the embedded

Re: what are required for contributing to release management

2006-09-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:10 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: snips throughout/ it is very rare for a non-committer to act as release manager. Yeah, I can't really remember ever seeing that. Of course, it happens quite often that downstream repackagers aren't committers. if the CXF community

Re: [VOTE] OFBiz Test Snapshot Release: 4.0.0 TS3

2006-09-25 Thread Leo Simons
Yes! Actual Feedback! Whoohooh! On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:24 AM, David E Jones wrote: The OFBiz podling (PPMC and community) has reached a consensus internally approving the 4.0.0 TS3 test snapshot release. We are now requesting a vote for review and approval from the general Incubator group

Re: [doc] call for feedback for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html

2006-09-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 18, 2006, at 11:13 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html is currently a draft document. i think that it's strong enough to push towards promoting it (and putting it in the indexes). +1. Good work. but in particular please reply with feedback

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