Re: "Fork Me" on GitHub (was Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache ShardingSphere (incubating) as a TLP)

2020-03-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
There's probably a designer who can make this into a feather or a octofeather... http://tholman.com/github-corners/ Martijn On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:05 PM Harbs wrote: > Sounds good to me. > > If there’s agreement on this, I’d suggest someone come up with some CSS > which can be popped into

[DISCUSS] Podlings are part the Incubator Community

2019-06-20 Thread Martijn Dashorst
fect your project: it might be that in a couple of weeks the discussion *will* affect your project. So interacting with the IPMC will invariably train you for life beyond the incubator. Make the best effort and you will thrive once graduated. Martijn Dashorst -

Re: [VOTE] Drop incubating requirement of Maven artifacts

2017-01-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Late to the party, but having a long think about this is sometimes beneficial. +1 to drop the -incubator/-incubating version attachment for any artifacts (not just Maven). My reasoning is the following: Source code lives longer than any community. Long after a podling has gone through the incuba

Re: Omitting "-incubating" suffix in Maven artifact version attribute for FreeMarker

2016-12-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
open mind and don't look only for the bits that support your position, but try to understand the other side as well. Martijn On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Martijn Dashorst < > martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote: > &

Re: Omitting "-incubating" suffix in Maven artifact version attribute for FreeMarker

2016-12-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
You are trying to fix the wrong thing. The whole idea of the -incubating moniker is to communicate to end users that the project is inside the incubator, and can fail incubation. The only and best way to get rid of the -incubating scheme is to *graduate*. Don't remain in the incubator hiding in yo

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Geode (incubating)

2016-11-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
And here as well, with the precise specification of at a minimum 3 independent committers: > The project is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there are at > least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or > entity that is vital to the success of the project

Re: Ease of release process and exit criteria

2016-08-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
For Wicket I've crafted a release script that not only creates the artifacts to vote on, but also generates the messages needed for voting and announcing, and scripts to either promote or rollback a release. https://github.com/apache/wicket/blob/master/release.sh It uses the aforementioned settin

Re: Releases during incubation?

2015-11-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
It has to do with intent: is your intention to release outside of the Incubator and the ASF because you don't want to do the work to make them compliant, or are you releasing for the benefit of your existing user base so they don't have to rewrite their code (package rename?), or get some security/

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > On 11/05/2015 12:02 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> Committership is the right to do work on the project. PMC membership is the >> right to participate in governance. People left in the nebulous state >> between >> committership and PMC membership fo

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
> PMC membership has nothing to do with technical mastery of the codebase, > which is why I cringe every time I see people talking about what "the bar" > should be. It's about trust. If you trust someone to work the gears on a > release, > that has considerable impact on the well-being of a proj

Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its graduation

2015-10-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
-1 on requiring all projects to do this exercise. It is not policy, and frankly as a volunteer organization we can let the communities themselves determine whether this is something they want to spend their time on. I thought we were a community for/over code, not a bureaucracy for/over code. If/

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The biggest issue with mentor disengagement IMO is that when incubation starts to take longer than 9 months it is hard to maintain focus and engagement if you are not a user/member of the incubating community (and its code). So while we can start measuring AWOL mentors and try to fix that by addin

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Would the discussion on the dev@groovy list be enough 'evidence' for the intent of the community to move to Apache? Then it would possible be sufficient to archive those messages for posterity (but I'm no lawyer) Martijn On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > So ultimately

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Great initiative! Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? Martijn ---

[IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
In my opinion it is always a failure of a podling when they can't get a release out of the door, or are unable to vote in new committers. "The future is not something we enter. The future is something we create." --Leonard I. Sweet As a podling is waiting for its release to be approved, I sure ho

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > +1 to Marvin's "I hope that most projects won't bother" although there > needs to be something a little more than a blank piece of paper. > > The best approach, IMHO, is to simply make it official that the project > adopts the same byelaws as p

Re: The podling initial committers issue

2013-09-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Plus, since the ASF did not watch how Usergrid > was handled when it was external, we (the ASF) has no idea > how "meritocratic" it was... I have no idea how that is important for *entering* the incubator. One of the core tenets of incubatin

[IP CLEARANCE] Wicket Free Guide by Andrea del Bene

2013-08-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
passed by lazy consensus after 72 hours as stipulated by the IP clearance policy. Many thanks for checking. Martijn Dashorst VP Apache Wicket

Re: Process, policy and best practice

2013-04-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Because 150+ people tasked with oversight, documentation of processes and procedures of podlings, TLPs and themselves, discussing different views of the past, present and future might not be able to agree to anything, but a small team tasked with just documenting process might get the job done with

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll edit it. http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org F

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Etch podling from Apache Incubator

2012-12-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
[X] +1 Graduate Apache Etch podling from Apache Incubator (binding) Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Some missing things for the December report

2012-12-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these > have been fixed. > > etch: no signoffs Just did my signoff and added a personal observation: The processes in this podling are really like trying to pour molasses thro

Re: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> The Chukwa community has voted to retire the project. > > -1 The community vote [1] was far from unanimous. I'd expect the > community being retired to have greater consensus (or, as is

Re: key signing

2012-10-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > Which is why we link to the .md5, .sha, .asc, and KEYS files on our severs. > Unless you're assuming a MITM along the request/response path to apache.org, > in which case all bets are off anyway. No? Which is why I have my release vote messag

Re: Etch, Isis, NPanday and Wave missing reports

2012-09-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I don't think a report for Etch is coming this month. Please reschedule for next month. Martijn On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Please report ASAP so there's enough time for review. > > If you won't have the report ready by tomorrow, let us know so we can > postpo

Vote or embedded in discussion? (was Re: [VOTE] Retire AWF from incubation)

2012-07-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Roger Schildmeijer wrote: > The AWF community has voted to retire the project. > Following the retirement guide [1], I now call the Incubator PMC to > vote on confirming this decision. (Will be open for 72 hours). As a drive-by interested party in the incubator (w

Re: June reports in two weeks

2012-06-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I figured I'd sign off on my Etch podling's report, but the report is either set to read only, or I lost my mojo to modify the wiki. Martijn On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > I'm hoping to complete the Incubator report by tomorrow evening (US > time). It would be gr

[DISCUSS] Graduate Etch from the incubator

2012-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
ve. If so, I'll start the preparations for graduating Etch. Martijn Dashorst - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > Citrix is pursuing patents based on prior CloudStack work and expects to > continue to do > so in the future.  Citrix is getting these patents to protect the CloudStack > user community. > Consider the case where some other entity states that

Re: Etch status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "March2012" by michaelfitzner)

2012-03-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Given the situation, I wonder how much more value the Incubator can > give to Etch. It sounds like all the currently active people already > understand the Apache Way and our policies, and that the only problem > is that there aren't enough o

Re: Etch status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "March2012" by michaelfitzner)

2012-03-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
of the 5th International Conference on Communication System Software and Middleware [1] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2016563&dl=ACM&coll=DL&CFID=89538345&CFTOKEN=83544989 On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jukka Zitting

Re: Etch status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "March2012" by michaelfitzner)

2012-03-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> More generally, looking over the last quarter in Etch I see ongoing >> technical work mostly by Michael Fitzner and Martin Veith but only >> occasional input from others and not much f

Re: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project

2012-03-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 for Jukka and +1000 thanks to Noel. Martijn On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > +1 > >        --- Noel > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands

Re: [VOTE] Retire HISE from incubation

2012-02-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1, retire (I don't have a better opinion to throw at the problem than the owning community :) Martijn On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > As discussed earlier and now shown below, the HISE community has voted > to retire the project. Following the retirement guide [1]

Re: [DISCUSS] eliminate vetoes on personnel votes

2012-01-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 31 January 2012 00:06, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> It is clear that with all the turmoil of late and people >> lightly tossing around -1's that the notion of having veto >> authority over personnel matters makes little sense on this >> PMC.  T

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Leo Simons wrote: > But I guess it does meet the minimum size. If 3 is not enough, what > number is? If it does become a problem, there's an attic process. The project is already in the process of adding another committer. I have every intention to put him on the

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
"incubating" is hampering its attractiveness. It will > become a swim or sink challenge as TLP, but doubt the forecast is any > better of staying here. > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:39 PM, ant elder wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst >>

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Just an FYI: I have posted a status update on Etch on general@, hoping it doesn't fall on deaf ears with all the discussions going on: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201201.mbox/%3ccab63y-dsjkbkeljkhuvkbdlmsjwvfvixo0fnxexofhq1v4m...@mail.gmail.com%3e Martijn On Sun, J

Re: On Etch status

2012-01-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Just as an aside: I intend on staying with the PMC to provide oversight as a Member (and being a familiar Mentor), provided the Etch community wants me to tag along. Martijn On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independ

On Etch status

2012-01-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent framework for building and consuming network services. The Etch toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, and binding libraries for a variety of programming languages. It currently supports C, C# and Java. Supp

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, sebb wrote: > This specifically says that a majority is NOT required. > This does seem odd. This does mean that a release (for example due to a security issue) cannot be held back by any entity or block of committers. Martijn

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Empire-db Podling

2011-11-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
of which 3 were also IPMC members > (Benson Margulies, Martijn Dashorst and Thomas Fox). > > I would like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. > > [  ] +1 - I approve of the Empire-db graduation > [  ] +0 - I have no opinion > [  ] -1 - There's an issue with graduation a

Re: Incubator Status

2011-11-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Michael Kelleher wrote: > Is there a plan for promoting this project to top level status?  If so, is > there a projected timeline? Unless you specify which project you aim to graduate, I can only assume it is the incubator itself, which is already top level. > Do

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating empire?

2011-11-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > It's a technical minimum, I agree, but I wouldn't accept graduating a > project with only 3 PMC members. > > 5 looks like a more realistic minimum to make sure the project can > actually get 3 votes when needed. Depends on what is expe

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.2.0-incubating (rc1)

2011-10-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > fyi - we already have one binding +1 (Benson) vote from our PMC vote > round so we need one more +1 > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Thomas Fox wrote: >> +1 >> >>  Thomas >> >> >> -

Re: Projects failing to repoirt for October - appropriate actions?

2011-10-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:24 AM, wrote: > Can you please clarify what our responsibilities in fact are, as far as you > understand it?  If we are once again expected to report every month, we'd > appreciate receiving appropriate notification to that effect. The expectations are that you report

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, sebb wrote: >> Thats exactly what I mean with a mess. Hope it clarifies a bit, b/c I >> thought about it a pretty long time. > > I agree that the LHS menu is confusing and messy, but for me, the RHS > list is simple and useful. For me the RHS list is not useful at

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-22 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, sebb wrote: >>> Do PPMCs have chairs? >>> If not, then maybe the Champion fulfils that role until eventual >>> graduation; otherwise they fulfil the role until the PPMC elects a >>> chair. >> >> I really thought PPMCs have chairs!  Otherwise how does the Incubator

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> champion |ˈCHampēən| noun >> 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, >> esp. in sports: >> 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else: >> >> The correct usage is of course de

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Why must the name be "Champion" and not just "Mentor"? Because Champion is an aptly name for the role. > champion is just another term for the first potential mentor who steps up. It is the correct name for that role: champion |ˈCH

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-20 Thread Martijn Dashorst
IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance of the podling into the incubator. For example the champion for Wicket was not a singular person, but both Alex Karasulu and Upayavira were both very instrumental in smoothing our transition into the incubator. general@ can be v

Re: [vote] Graduate OGNL as a subproject to Apache Commons

2011-08-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Dear all, > > the Commons Community and the OGNL Community (which is overlapping > heavily) would like to see OGNL graduated. > We don't see any risks in graduating OGNL. Most of the OGNL committers > are already ASF committers, or

Re: Incubator Etch Receipts of ICLAs, CCLAs

2011-08-20 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I just forwarded a grep of iclas.txt for these accounts to private@. cclas.txt didn't have any mention of the account names, and grants.txt listed a svn entry for etch. Martijn On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Michael Fitzner wrote: > I kindly request the current receipts of ICLAs, CCLAs and SGA

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf wrote: > Hi everyone, > > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. > > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and > developers are changi

Re: Etch Status?

2011-06-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > What is preventing Etch from graduating? A diverse, active, growing community and building releases. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apac

Re: watching the commit profile

2011-05-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I typically use markmail archives of the commit mailing list. Shows nice graphs of the most active committers. You can filter on a particular committer as wel. Another option would be to use the github mirrors of our repositories (I used that recently to see how active wicket committers were), and

Re: questions on proposal I'm championing

2011-05-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Nigel Daley wrote: > Hi, I've agreed to champion an incubator submission.  It's my first time > doing this.  I have a few questions. > > 1) The project has been open sourced under ALv2 for a while and has had a > number of releases.  When it comes to the incubato

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Imperius Podling

2011-05-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] starting the CMS migration process

2011-04-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 for moving to the new CMS. Having written some docs for the Incubator, I find it quite cumbersome to do that in XML and I rather prefer the markdown syntax. Martijn On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 09:26:38 -0700: >> If there ar

Releases and IPMC votes

2011-03-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I was under the impression that *any* mentor is an IPMC member, has a binding +1 vote for releases and could therefore approve of releases without having to go through general@ While I find it very helpful and valuable for first time releases (and first time release managers) to go to general@ the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.7-incubating (rc2)

2010-12-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > Hi, > > The Apache Empire-db community has approved the 2.0.7-incubating > release and we are now looking for approval of the IPMC to publish the > release. *As we only have two mentors left we will need at least one > extra vote.

Re: [VOTE] Aries Graduation to TLP

2010-11-22 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: > Hi IPMCers and Incubator community, > > The Aries community has been discussing graduation and we feel we are > ready to graduate to a new TLP [1]. We subsequently voted [2]. As a > commnunity we were unanimous in deciding to graduate to

Bylaws paragraph in TLP resolutions

2010-10-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > added one para about bylaws/particiption). Where did you copy your original > from > before search/replace? I'd like to fix that source material. AFAIK, the bylaws paragraph was scrapped from the template because it was deemed no longer necess

Re: [VOTE] Thrift to graduate from the incubator

2010-10-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Bryan Duxbury wrote: > All, > > Thrift has been humming along nicely lately. We'd made several releases and > added several committers. The Thrift community thinks now is a good time to > consider graduation. > > Please let me know if this resolution is insuffi

No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >>... > >> *Mailing Lists* >> >> kitty-dev >> kitty-commits >> kitty-user >> > > Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the > community across dev/user does not make sens

Re: [VOTE] Isis to enter the incubator

2010-09-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Dan Haywood wrote: >  The Isis proposal has now been updated with a champion and several new > mentors (thanks again guys), and is ready to be voted on. > > The proposal is at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IsisProposal , the text > is also copied below. > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP

2010-08-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I fully second this sentiment. +1 and godspeed as a TLP! Martijn On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > +1 > > You have worked hard to get to this point, having survived the release > process, two name changes, and community building exercises. > > I have no reservations about

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Stuart Monteith wrote: > If I am to offer a suggestion, I would suggest that there be a clear release > process documented in a single location, with the rational for each of its > steps > included. Is this what you'd want? http://incubator.apache.org/guides/re

Stop the vitriolic name calling please.

2010-08-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
As a Member, and mentor, I take offense at being called a hawk, lunatic, drive-by-shooter, process-obstructor, etc. There is absolutely no reason to conflate changing the dynamics of the Incubator by adding this kind of bile to the discussion. I feel disempowered and insulted by the consistent bi

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I'm +1 for TLP. No need to start creating more umbrella projects. If finding a chair is troublesome, I'd be more than willing to fill that gap (although I'm not on the RAT ppmc, nor have written a single line of code for it). As a mentor and user I love the utility, so keeping it around and making

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.6-incubating (rc4)

2010-05-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Congrats! Martijn On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > The vote passes as follows: > >   +1 Martijn Dashorst >   +1 Ant Elder >   +1 Craig L Russell >   +1 Thomas Fischer > > Thanks for all your support and reviews! I'll push the release ou

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.6-incubating (rc4)

2010-05-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (again). Could someone from the IPMC take a look at the release? The team is eager to release it, but lacks 2 +1 binding votes. Martijn On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Rainer Döbele wrote: > > +1 > > Rainer > > Francis De Brabandere wrote: >> re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.6-incubat

Re: Incubator blog at blogs.apache.org?

2010-04-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
is infra issue? How do you see > this IPMC vetting? > > Cheers, > Francis > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Martijn Dashorst wrote: >> >>> As several podlings have issues publicizing themselves and finding >>> venues for

Incubator blog at blogs.apache.org?

2010-04-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
As several podlings have issues publicizing themselves and finding venues for publicity, would it be a good idea to have an incubator blog at http://blogs.apache.org where we allow podlings to publicize themselves? The content should of course be vetted by the IPMC, but IMO it would be a nice outle

Re: [VOTE] Termination of WSRP4J podling

2010-04-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > The Portals PMC as Sponsor of the WSRP4J podling as well as the project > community itself has voted [1,2] positive [3] to terminate the podling due > to lack of interest to continue the project. > > I would like to call the Incubator PMC to

Re: [VOTE] - Graduate Log4PHP as a subproject of Logging project

2010-03-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Congrats! Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2010-02-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Apache UIMA as a TLP

2010-02-22 Thread Martijn Dashorst
[x] +1 to recommend UIMA's graduation Good luck! Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Incubator PMC Membership Status Check 2010

2010-02-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I received mine, apparently minotaur's short day off caused the delay... Martijn On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> Didn't get that. > > Still not?  The e-mail should be flowing now.  You ARE on the roster, and > were on the e-mail. > >      

Re: Incubator PMC Membership Status Check 2010

2010-02-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Didn't receive one. Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: incubator group membership for tfischer

2010-02-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Thomas Fischer wrote: > Can someone please add me (tfischer) to the incubator group so I can update > the incubator's webste from svn ? I am member of the incubator PMC. You are already in the incubator group, I'm not sure what goes wrong. Martijn --

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+0.9 I agree that the site update process is cumbersome, but it also gives podling folks an incentive to log on to p.a.o and learn to use that system to their advantage. Moving to svnpubsub would take that away. That said, I think that most committers never have to go to p.a.o in any case so perh

Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > can I as a new mod see what messages are still in the mod queue? I don't know the command and if it is possible. I do know that the marvin messages have expired already (they do so after a week iirc). You can read more about ezml h

Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
AFAIK those were added after 1 januari (6 januari iirc), which is when the notice was sent out. Martijn On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Gav... wrote: > > >> -Original Message----- >> From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, 19 Ja

Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The notification was sent but got stuck in moderation with no moderator for the dev@ list. Martijn On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere wrote: > As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification. > > Cheers, > Francis > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Shindig as an Apache Top Level Project

2010-01-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Siveton wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the positive feedback on the proposal to graduate Shindig > as a TLP [1]. > > I would like to start an official vote to recommend the graduation of > Apache Shindig as a Top Level Project to the Board. > To that end

Apache Click: still in reporting schedule

2009-12-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Even though Apache Click has graduated from the incubator (and still hasn't landed on http://click.apache.org), they are still in our reporting schedule. I've removed them from the 2009 report wiki. Is there something else that needs to be taken care off? Martijn -- Become a Wicket expert, learn

Re: [VOTE] Recommend OpenWebBeans graduation to an Apache TLP

2009-12-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: > Hi; > > After  over  one  years  in  the  incubator  with   providing   three   > releases > OpenWebBeans community with  the  support  of  our  mentors  feel  that  we   > are > ready  to  propose  to  the  Incubator  PMC  to  graduate

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-11-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: >> The Apache Pivot community feels that it is ready to graduate into the >> "Apache Pivot" top-level project. > > +1 from me! > > cheers, > > Leo > >

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > Actually, the vote was kind of withdrawn to update it to new descriptors. > Thus, its not available yet.   In anycase, no need to spam all the PMCs, > especially those not using Maven.   Just keep an eye on the annou...@maven > list.   When av

Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
As long as the community is not divided on the issue whether to practice RTC vs CTR, I see no blocker for graduation. That is: as long as RTC was not installed to mitigate problems inside the community. If that is the case, the community may still be broken, with the underlying issue mopped under

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > LOL > > Well... the problem is that an "svn mv" from /incubator/subversion/ to > /subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is > actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is very > important to us). Sounds lik

Re: How to shorten the duration of incubation (Was: Insanity...)

2009-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I like the proposal of 3 steps prior to releasing... In Greg's words: it teaches instead of hinders. It divides the arduous process of cutting a release in more manageable steps and would make passing the actual release easier/faster. Martijn On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > We certainly have no intent to bring Bad Code into the ASF! I am sure you do. However that is not the issue I'm going against: when Good Code is brought into the ASF in a Bad Way or in a Good Way with Bad Reasoning. I actually like the way you

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > This is where I think the Incubator has gone awry: the claim that you > are an IPMC member implies that you have merit on a project (in the > form of a binding vote) is false. Not sure if I am looking at the same incubator as you are. I a

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence to our policies which you and others have crafted. *All* podlings have to ensure they have the correct licensing headers, notices and other bits in place before

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and > necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole. Nope... The whole IPMC has been tasked with oversight. The mentors are proxies for the whole IPMC. > The IPMC as a >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Click as an Apache TLP

2009-10-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1, congrats and good luck! Martijn On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Bob Schellink wrote: > Hi all, > > The Apache Click community has voted to request graduation from the > Incubator as a new TLP [1][2]. > > I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click as > a Top Lev

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Lucene.Net as a subproject under Apache Lucene

2009-10-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, George Aroush wrote: > > [x]  +1  Graduate Lucene.Net as a sub-project under Apache Lucene. > > > Cheers > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > > I  live

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