[CANCELLED][VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-29 Thread Chen, Pei
Cancelling RC5. -Original Message- From: Chen, Pei [mailto:pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:44 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release Hi, This is a call for a vote on releasing

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 25/01/2013 Benson Margulies wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) What about Apache OpenOffice? I asked this question about Open Office, and I got, more or less, what I typed in above.

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/01/2013 Benson Margulies wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) What about Apache OpenOffice? I asked this question about Open Office, and I got, more or less, what I typed in above. I was puzzled, but there you have it. As I recall, Roy made a remark like 'our

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Benson, On 1/24/13 7:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: It's unfortunate to have this conversation in parallel here and on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-157. Also, this thread is a combo of the discussion of ordinary jars-of-classes (where I'd forgotten the

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Benson, On 1/24/13 7:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: It's unfortunate to have this conversation in parallel here and on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-157. Also,

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Benson, On 1/24/13 7:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: It's unfortunate to have this conversation in parallel here and

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Chen, Pei
] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:52 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/25/13 8:28 AM, Chen, Pei pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu wrote: I am actually glad that it is discussed here so that other podlings or future podlings are aware of these fundamental items (since not everyone may subscribe to legal-discuss). Is this philosophy or policy also true for

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that icons, gifs, jpgs are ok in both source and binary dists. My mental model for source dists is whether the file can do any harm and what the developer would do to verify its safety. For icons, gifs, jpgs,

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/25/13 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/25/13 8:28 AM, Chen, Pei pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu wrote: I am actually glad that it is discussed here so that other podlings or future

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/25/13 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/25/13 8:28 AM, Chen, Pei pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu wrote: I am actually

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Guys, On 1/25/13 10:29 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: [...snip...] Sorry, that's really what I meant: to think about that file as to whether it can do any harm and how to determine its safety. I haven't looked at the file, but it sounds like you know it can do harm.

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Benson Margulies
Chris et al, I'm suffering from a mild crisis of responsibility here. I'm the VP of the incubator. cTakes is planning to ship a release containing something that, according to some lights, is inadmissible. If that 'something' is in *the (source) release*, I have serious qualms. If it's merely in

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
or another ;-). From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release Chris et al, I'm suffering from a mild

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Benson, I agree with Joe - not sure that your job as Incubator VP is to drop any hammers. The org is fine -- the ticket is opened as you said and no bits (binary or source) have been shipped anywhere yet. Still discussing and talking. My fear though is that the discussing and talking are

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 21, 2013, Benson Margulies wrote: Matt, can you reference the policy that category A deps can't be sitting in svn in binary? Of course, these folks

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Chris Douglas
-Masanz.James=mayo@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-39351-Masanz.James=mayo@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Chris Douglas Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:45 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: ... I am referring to this discussion http://s.apache.org/MUZ Well, that clear enough, even if it is a typical example of how our founders yell at us but we have no

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 25.01.2013 01:50, Ted Dunning wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: ... I am referring to this discussion http://s.apache.org/MUZ Well, that clear enough, even if it is a typical example of how our

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Benson Margulies
It's unfortunate to have this conversation in parallel here and on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-157. Also, this thread is a combo of the discussion of ordinary jars-of-classes (where I'd forgotten the policy) and the much more tangled question of models, which is what the JIRA is

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote: No, the OpenNLP did not have any discussion about it with legal. We just came to the conclusion

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Douglas
- From: Masanz, James J. Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:16 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Cc: 'ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release Regarding the comment about compiled jars in the source tree: The following jars, even

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Jörn Kottmann
On 01/23/2013 09:24 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Masanz, James J.masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: Another question about the convenience binary -- can it include the models for which the training data cannot be shared with the community? My guess would be no, but it

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Douglas
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote: No, the OpenNLP did not have any discussion about it with legal. We just came to the conclusion that its not worth spending time on these issues, when we can instead produce our own training data which is compatible

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Masanz, James J.
@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Chris Douglas Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:45 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Benson Margulies
: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote: No, the OpenNLP did not have any discussion about it with legal. We just came to the conclusion that its not worth spending time on these issues, when we can

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Jörn Kottmann
On 01/23/2013 05:20 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: As for the binaries, I am personally uncomfortable if you cannot even create a private download of those sources accessible to community members. However, I don't know how to translate my personal discomfort into policy. I will endeavour to get

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that clear enough, even if it is a typical example of how our founders yell at us but we have no mechanism to channel those yells into concise, unambiguous, documentation. +1, I've felt that as well. FWIW, I

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-22 Thread Jörn Kottmann
On 01/22/2013 12:48 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Masanz, James J.masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: Many of the models are derived from data that is not publicly released. But those*models* have been contributed to Apache cTAKES. This is the primary mechanism for

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-22 Thread Masanz, James J.
] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On 01/22/2013 12:48 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Masanz, James J.masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: Many of the models are derived from data that is not publicly released. But those*models* have been contributed

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-22 Thread Masanz, James J.
-Original Message- From: Masanz, James J. Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:16 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Cc: 'ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release Regarding the comment about compiled jars in the source tree

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Matt Franklin
I have some issues with this release as it currently stands: * Where is the result of the VOTE thread on the dev list? * Where is the source artifact? The artifact linked in the vote thread appears to be your convenience binary release. * There are compiled jars in the source tree. These need

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Masanz, James J.
To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release I have some issues with this release as it currently stands: * Where is the result of the VOTE thread on the dev list? * Where is the source artifact? The artifact

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Masanz, James J.
@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-39326-Masanz.James=mayo@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Masanz, James J. Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:51 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release The result of the VOTE

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Matt Franklin
@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release I have some issues with this release as it currently stands: * Where is the result of the VOTE thread on the dev list? * Where is the source artifact? The artifact linked

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Matt Franklin
21, 2013 9:51 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes- dev/201301.mbox/browser The source artifact can

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Benson Margulies
@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Masanz, James J. Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:51 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Matt Franklin
@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-39326-Masanz.James= mayo@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Masanz, James J. Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:51 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release The result

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Masanz, James J.
21, 2013 7:42 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release I have some issues with this release as it currently stands: * Where is the result of the VOTE thread on the dev list? * Where

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Matt Franklin
To: general@incubator.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Masanz, James J. masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at http://mail-archives.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Benson Margulies
, 2013 9:51 AM To: 'general@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0-incubating on the dev list is at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes- dev/201301.mbox/browser The source artifact can

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
:;] On Behalf Of Matt Franklin Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:38 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Masanz, James J. masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: The result of the VOTE for 3.0.0

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Masanz, James J.
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:47 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Masanz, James J. masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: Regarding the comment about compiled jars in the source tree

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Chris Douglas
Infra asks for a heads up for large artifacts: http://s.apache.org/5vz While these aren't over the limit, it might be worth pinging them. To be clear, these models were trained on external data, so they can't be regenerated? Are they packaged here for convenience, or is this the primary mechanism

RE: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Masanz, James J.
Message- From: general-return-39339-Masanz.James=mayo@incubator.apache.org [mailto:general-return-39339-Masanz.James=mayo@incubator.apache.org] On Behalf Of Chris Douglas Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:36 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-21 Thread Benson Margulies
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release Infra asks for a heads up for large artifacts: http://s.apache.org/5vz While these aren't over the limit, it might be worth pinging them. To be clear, these models were trained on external data, so they can't be regenerated

re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-18 Thread Coarr, Matt
Hi, we just need one more Incubator PMC vote for cTAKES version 3.0. Matt --- From: Chen, Pei pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu Subject: Collecting IPMC votes Hi, This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating. This will be our first release.

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-18 Thread Matt Franklin
I will take a look before Monday at the latest. On Friday, January 18, 2013, Coarr, Matt wrote: Hi, we just need one more Incubator PMC vote for cTAKES version 3.0. Matt --- From: Chen, Pei pei.c...@childrens.harvard.edu javascript:; Subject: Collecting IPMC votes Hi, This is a call

[VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-10 Thread Chen, Pei
Hi, This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating. This will be our first release. A vote is also held on the developer mailing list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ctakes-dev/201301.mbox/browser For more detailed