Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > I think the quiz is a great idea. Thanks for trying it out. > I would really like to see the correct > answers when the provided answer is wrong. Having the hints is very useful, > and should be kept, but I would still like to also see the correct answers > instead of just having to pour

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, I think the quiz is a great idea. I would really like to see the correct answers when the provided answer is wrong. Having the hints is very useful, and should be kept, but I would still like to also see the correct answers instead of just having to pour through documentation... Thanks

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, >> Maybe let the user choose the level at the start? > > Also a good idea. And done - should make it a little easier for people but I may of cranked it a little too high. Again feedback welcome. Thanks, Justin - To

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > Maybe let the user choose the level at the start? Also a good idea. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > Thanks for having a go, Justin! We need more ways to explain license and > distribution challenges. Thanks for giving it a try., > I also got just 1 of 5, even on multiple tries on the same questions. Also > the fact that the correct answer(s) is not shown graphically is confusing. That

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Maybe let the user choose the level at the start? I agree that new people could get confused, but being able to increase the level could help spread the details. As in the incubator these details are what usually result in -1 votes. Chris Am 25.01.18, 11:16 schrieb "Stian Soiland-Reyes"

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Thanks for having a go, Justin! We need more ways to explain license and distribution challenges. I also got just 1 of 5, even on multiple tries on the same questions. Also the fact that the correct answer(s) is not shown graphically is confusing. i thinks such a quiz should not deliberately

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > I return to my point: "No" was the best answer (tho its qualifiers were > wrong), and the "Yes" was wrong for that question. Yes I agree No is the best answer (and is the correct answer is just about every single case) and Yes is wrong in that question. Is "Yes but only for some common

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:44 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > HI, > > > *Dependencies* to build the products. We don't include autoconf itself > > Not all of it but you do need to include GPL licensed files. An example > [1]. > > Except that they do have a get out jail free

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

HI, > *Dependencies* to build the products. We don't include autoconf itself Not all of it but you do need to include GPL licensed files. An example [1]. Except that they do have a get out jail free provision in them “You need not follow the terms of the GNU General Public License when using

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Here is the precise display: > > > > Can Apache distribute products under a prohibited ('Category X') license? > > No (with a couple of exceptions).Yes but only for some common build > tools. > > > > So I go

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Nick Kew wrote: > On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 23:03 -0600, Greg Stein wrote: >> Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even >> when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I >> said "No", it said

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 23:03 -0600, Greg Stein wrote: > Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even > when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I > said "No", it said "not quite right". A veritable triumph. It has demonstrated that Apache

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > Here is the precise display: > > Can Apache distribute products under a prohibited ('Category X') license? > No (with a couple of exceptions).Yes but only for some common build tools. > > So I go ahead and click "No" because we distribute ALL products under ALv2. > And the second option

Re: Apache Policy Quiz.

Hi, > Surely we are not talking about some kind of an official ASF exam test > here, right? No it would never be a PMC entry exam :-) > This is more of a fun quiz that makes people think about certain things which > means that anything goes Correct! > So I guess my only bit of feedback would

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On 01/25/2018 07:07 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Justin Mclean > wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> I got inconsistent results from the same answer out of the same choices on >>> the same question. It was not clear to me that many of the questions

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > HI, > > > No, I'm not gonna issue PRs. The methodology of presenting 2 of 3 > answers, > > then saying I got it wrong because I couldn't click that not-shown 3rd… > > It not doing that it only scores the check

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> I got inconsistent results from the same answer out of the same choices on >> the same question. It was not clear to me that many of the questions are >> “check all that apply”. > > I will add that to

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > I'm gonna add to this and say there can't be two correct answers in such > a quiz. Have you tried many of the question to have multiple correct choices? Perhaps this question / answer set just needs to be worded a little better. > Either the answer encompasses the full scope of the

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

HI, > No, I'm not gonna issue PRs. The methodology of presenting 2 of 3 answers, > then saying I got it wrong because I couldn't click that not-shown 3rd… It not doing that it only scores the check boxes on the screen. Thanks, Justin

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On 01/25/2018 06:54 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> "manually placed into www.apache.org/dist" ... I left that box >> unchecked, >>> and well... dang. I still got it wrong, it seems. >> >> There no

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > I got inconsistent results from the same answer out of the same choices on > the same question. It was not clear to me that many of the questions are > “check all that apply”. I will add that to make it clearer. > Some of the questions are poorly worded, e.g. something like “can Apache

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > "manually placed into www.apache.org/dist" ... I left that box > unchecked, > > and well... dang. I still got it wrong, it seems. > > There no question with that answer that I can see. There’s is one

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > And as you suggested, the possibility of erroneous Q I just got: > "Releases > > use majority approval voting (i.e at least 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes > > than -1 votes) and the vote should to be open 72

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > "manually placed into www.apache.org/dist" ... I left that box unchecked, > and well... dang. I still got it wrong, it seems. There no question with that answer that I can see. There’s is one that say "Place the artifacts in www.apache.org/dist.” which you do need to check. I could

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > And as you suggested, the possibility of erroneous Q I just got: "Releases > use majority approval voting (i.e at least 3 +1 votes and more +1 votes > than -1 votes) and the vote should to be open 72 hours so that everyone has > a chance to vote." > > That is false. A release cannot be

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > ... It’s probably harder and not as fun as the logo game ... > > I'm not sure anything can as hard as the Apache Lucene question in the logo game:

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:41 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > So you're saying that I answer "No" from the two chosen, the ONLY correct > > answer, and it still dings me? > > Grep I don't know what two options it gave you from the 3 possible > answers, 2 of them are

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > So you're saying that I answer "No" from the two chosen, the ONLY correct > answer, and it still dings me? Grep I don't know what two options it gave you from the 3 possible answers, 2 of them are right 1 isn’t. No is not the only correct answer. Thanks, Justin

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

I got inconsistent results from the same answer out of the same choices on the same question. It was not clear to me that many of the questions are “check all that apply”. Some of the questions are poorly worded, e.g. something like “can Apache rely on cat X software”: most of the projects I

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

"manually placed into www.apache.org/dist" ... I left that box unchecked, and well... dang. I still got it wrong, it seems. Nobody puts stuff there. You "svn mv" the release from dev/$project/foo to release/$project/foo, and our systems auto-update the www.a.o/dist area. Misleading. On Wed,

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:35 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> > There were just two. >> >> Correct it shows two answers randomly out the 3 it knows about. That way >> it’s a little

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > There were just two. > > Correct it shows two answers randomly out the 3 it knows about. That way > it’s a little different every time. > So you're saying that I answer "No" from the two chosen, the ONLY

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > There were just two. Correct it shows two answers randomly out the 3 it knows about. That way it’s a little different every time. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even > > when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I > > said “No” > > Some of them are subtle. You may have to

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, > Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even > when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I > said “No” Some of them are subtle. You may have to check more than one box to get all the right answers. For that question: Can Apache

Re: Apache Policy Quiz

Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I said "No", it said "not quite right". That was a simple yes/no, and an obvious "no" answer. ... That was the final straw after a series of multiple-choice

Apache Policy Quiz

Hi, A while back I posted a little logo game. [1] Well after a few comments on the incubator list around projects possibly graduating without fully understanding ASF policy, and some issues with recent release got me thinking is there another way we can present this information. So I made a