Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-16 Thread Ted Dunning
The mailing list request is in infra's hands. One of the better sources of information about Dremel is the BigQuery documentation. That says that the right side of a join must be < 8MB and that the only outer join available is a left out join. What Drill does is somewhat of a different question.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-16 Thread Tomer Shiran
Yes, we plan to support joins. We are in the process of setting up the mailing lists. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM, karthik tunga wrote: > The proposal looks great. I was wondering what operations will drill > support ? > For example the dremel paper doesn't talk about joins, will drill supp

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-16 Thread karthik tunga
The proposal looks great. I was wondering what operations will drill support ? For example the dremel paper doesn't talk about joins, will drill support joins ? Sorry if I missed it, is there a dev mailing list I could subscribe to ? Cheers, Karthik On 13 August 2012 23:55, Bernd Fondermann wrot

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-14 Thread Bernd Fondermann
great proposal and a very promising mentor lineup. Have fun, Bernd On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Abstract > > Drill is a distributed system for interactive analysis of large-scale > datasets, inspired by Google’s Dremel ( > http://research.google.com/pubs/pub3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-09 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > > On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >> It is clear that there are gobs of people with the >> credentials and track record to be potential contributors, but it is >> also clear that many of these people have huge demands on the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-09 Thread Arun C Murthy
On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > It is clear that there are gobs of people with the > credentials and track record to be potential contributors, but it is > also clear that many of these people have huge demands on their time. > That leaves doubt about how much contribution the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Tomer Shiran
Oops, apologies - thanks for the reminder. I uploaded the slides as an attachment on the wiki page. Thanks, Tomer On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > So, no response to my request above about the design docs and > not-TO-DOne MapR presentation? > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:25 P

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Jakob Homan
So, no response to my request above about the design docs and not-TO-DOne MapR presentation? On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > +1 -C > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> This is a duplicated attempt at sending this message, please ignore the >> previous

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Douglas
+1 -C On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > This is a duplicated attempt at sending this message, please ignore the > previous message if it eventually arrives. There appears to be a hangup > sending email from my apache email address via gmail. > > Abstract > > Drill is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Ted Dunning
The consensus in the group of committers listed in the proposal is that we would like to discourage piling on of pre-formation committers and encourage adding committers after formation based on contributions. It is clear that there are gobs of people with the credentials and track record to be po

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: >> Wasn't clear, can I add myself now? > > Didn't the Incubator go back to discouraging open enrollment?... AFAIK, no. What was discussed is that incoming podlings should clearly state

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Jakob Homan
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > No reason at all. > Sorry. I may have been unclear. I was requesting that the design docs which are being referenced in the proposal: "The requirement and design documents are currently stored in MapR Technologies' source code repository. They

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Arun C Murthy
On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > >> Wasn't clear, can I add myself now? > > Didn't the Incubator go back to discouraging open enrollment? > > Is it OK to be invited in based on merit later, or do you feel that due to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > Wasn't clear, can I add myself now? Didn't the Incubator go back to discouraging open enrollment? Is it OK to be invited in based on merit later, or do you feel that due to the nature of this project, it's essential to be in on the ground

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: >>The incubator filters projects on the basis of the likeliness of them >>becoming successful meritocratic communities. The basic requirements for >>incubation are: >> >> * a working codebase -- over the years and after

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Arun C Murthy
Ted, Wasn't clear, can I add myself now? thanks, Arun On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Sounds like some good pull. I will call a vote tomorrow. > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > >> Agreed, likewise. >> >> I'd love to get involved and would like to a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Ted Dunning
Just sent that out. Thanks for the encouragement! On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > I concur with Andrzej. Let's see that VOTE Ted! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
ral@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: Grant Ingersoll; Isabel Drost >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Initial Source >>>> ==

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On 07/08/2012 21:14, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: -Original Message- From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:25 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Grant Ingersoll; Isabel Drost Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator On

RE: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
>-Original Message- >From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:25 PM >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Cc: Grant Ingersoll; Isabel Drost >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator > >On Thu, Aug 2, 2012

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-07 Thread Tomer Shiran
FYI: I have posted the proposal to the wiki and updated it based on the feedback from Marvin and Jakob: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DrillProposal On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > In fact, a big part of the motivation for proposing incubation before code > is ready is exa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Ted Dunning
In fact, a big part of the motivation for proposing incubation before code is ready is exactly to foster the discussions needed to form community. It is true that many projects that start without the fundamentals face challenges that more mature projects face but that is really just a fact of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Ted Dunning
No reason at all. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > Any reason the design docs can't be put up in place of where the > source would normally go? > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tomer Shiran wrote: >> Marvin, thanks for commenting on the proposal! The i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Jakob Homan
Any reason the design docs can't be put up in place of where the source would normally go? On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tomer Shiran wrote: > Marvin, thanks for commenting on the proposal! The initial committers have > been working on the design for several months, and will commit the design

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Tomer Shiran
Marvin, thanks for commenting on the proposal! The initial committers have been working on the design for several months, and will commit the design once the project is approved, so we do not expect much friction during the design phase. With that said, we certainly do want to engage others early o

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Initial Source > == > There is no initial source code. All source code will be developed within > the Apache Incubator. Coming in without any source code is going to pose a challenge to this podling. http://www.apache.org/foun

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Ted Dunning
Sounds like some good pull. I will call a vote tomorrow. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > Agreed, likewise. > > I'd love to get involved and would like to add myself whenever you are > ready. > > thanks, > Arun > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > > On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-06 Thread Arun C Murthy
Agreed, likewise. I'd love to get involved and would like to add myself whenever you are ready. thanks, Arun On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Drill is a distributed system for interactive analysis of large-scale >> data

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-03 Thread Ted Dunning
Owen, Sounds great to have additional contributors, but let's get a project approved and rolling and then we can start adding committers. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Drill is a distributed system for interactive

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-03 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Drill is a distributed system for interactive analysis of large-scale > datasets, inspired by Google’s Dremel ( > http://research.google.com/pubs/pub36632.html). > This sounds really interesting Ted and I would love to help you. Would it be ok t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

2012-08-02 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Sounds cool! Cheers, Chris On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > This is a duplicated attempt at sending this message, please ignore the > previous message if it eventually arrives. There appears to be a hangup > sending email from my apache email address via gmail. > > Abstract > =